ARod's decline...Sports Science...

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yankeesince59

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...this goes into pretty good detail about ARod's steady decline. And it doesn't even touch on the fact that the data collected in order to produce this example, does not factor in that ARod is nearly 2 years older and is now without his PEDs. (supposedly)

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12356502
 
Thought his stance widened....not that much though, wow. So basically the hips can't take the kinetic load.

So the question is, does he put the kick back in his stride to get the extra bat speed, and risk further injury? I think he's gonna double down on his career and go for broke. Get the cart ready.
 
So basically we have an older player possibly compensating/adjusting and sacrificing some power due to past injuries/surgeries, but if his "compensation/adjustments" keep him healthy enough for a few hundred at bats he knows darn well he can help improve those dreadful 2014 Yankee DH numbers.

He may be a creep, he may be hated, and of course he's contract is an albatross, but he has always been a hardworking hustling ballplayer.......and I happen to believe if, perhaps he stays reasonably healthy, he'll help improve upon those dreadful 2014 Yankee DH numbers.....feel free to "cherry pick" any or all of offensive numbers associated with them.

I have to admit, I am very anxious to see how this plays out......science?
"weird science"? Overly analytical? Maybe he's just plain old washed up.....or maybe he has one or two very decent productive yrs as part time DH ect.....


We shall see. Science? Or just plain old bullish!t?
A player/person usually knows (in most cases) how he and his body feels as well as a scientist or Doctor.....and I'm NOT talking about surgery.....get my drift? lol
 
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Science is based on data from measurements, as this piece has presented. Bullshit is typically preceded by the term "approximately".
 
totus44 said:
Science is based on data from measurements, as this piece has presented. Bullshit is typically preceded by the term "approximately".
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Sort of like how there are scientists who say the earth is going to continue warming at an alarming rate yet there are just as many other scientists who say it's just a cyclical normal period and mankind has hardly anything to do with it and Al Gore is full of sh!t and has made tons of money investing in " alternative" forms of energy.

Let's get back to the new dirty word -- "approximate".
#1) when the police question a person of interest, do they ask:
" where were you at 8:03 last night"?......or do they ask, "where were you at approximately 8 PM last night"?

#2) allow me to ask you NOT to use the word approximately:
Let's use Bret Gardner as an example....but you can choose any player if you care to:
What WILL his final exact BA be? His exact OPS....oops, sorry for "cherry picking",
How about his final OBP and SLG% ? Want to supply some EXACT numbers?
Please avoid that ridiculous word "approximately "....Thanks.
 
You do realize that the facts support further decline for ARod? Now you can hope for some level of rebound, but that's all you have. As for ARod being hardworking, let's see how that perception fares at 39 going on 40 without the juice.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...the amount that he doesn't realize astounds me.
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No, you have already made up your mind saying things like "Arod is toast" and he won't make it out of ST..... you just refuse to hear or care about the possibility of indeed an older player making some nessecary adjustments and conceding somewhat to his advanced ballplaying age and situation.

I have NEVER hinted or implied he will return to being a dynamic offensive force but I am not ready to write him off.....seems the only pride he may still maintain is his ability to at least not embarrass himself on the ball field.


Now go right ahead and pick this post apart....oh, by the way, your man Tiger is TOAST!
 
yankeesince59 said:
...this goes into pretty good detail about ARod's steady decline. And it doesn't even touch on the fact that the data collected in order to produce this example, does not factor in that ARod is nearly 2 years older and is now without his PEDs. (supposedly)

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12356502
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Interesting video, and "His HR to Fly Ball (Out) ratio, has decreased 42% from 07-012. I can imagine, what comes next......Honestly, I'm sticking with: "I bet A-Roid doesn't even make it out of ST".....that's the news, the whole news, and I'm sticking to it....!
 
blgridesagain said:
No, you have already made up your mind saying things like "Arod is toast" and he won't make it out of ST..... you just refuse to hear or care about the possibility of indeed an older player making some nessecary adjustments and conceding somewhat to his advanced ballplaying age and situation.

I have NEVER hinted or implied he will return to being a dynamic offensive force but I am not ready to write him off.....seems the only pride he may still maintain is his ability to at least not embarrass himself on the ball field.


Now go right ahead and pick this post apart....oh, by the way, your man Tiger is TOAST!
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...why do you find it necessary to fuck up every thread?
 
yankeesince59 said:
...why do you find it necessary to fuck up every thread?
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My exact sentiments as well. Perhaps, he was raised, in a family dynamic, where his siblings all had to argue, or cause a scene, just to be seen or heard......

Example: a child, now an adult, (tho' that's yet to be proven); one will act to receive negative attention, rather than get NO attention at all.....

A child's mentality, to stir up shit, just to be heard. Negative re-enforcements, in lieu of positive words/actions.

Or- "There's one in every crowd" mentality, who emulated bullies in School, thinking he could get his way, yet, once called out, he was always the type of wannabe' who got his ass handed to him behind the gymnasium, or hell right in front of a crowd....!

EVERYCROWDFRT.jpg
 
...I have that album sitting around somewhere.

..."Opposites".
 
Just think he will wind up on IR.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...why do you find it necessary to fuck up every thread?
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Why do you find it nessecary to nitpick, question my integrity or try to prove my opinions unrealistic or ridiculous.......in case anyone has noticed or cared to.
You picked the Yanks to win 82 games....I disagree.....but I'm not quite ready yet to post insulting humiliating pix or videos over it.

Don't try and portray me as some kind of class clown because I happen to be the minority opinion on a couple of matters according to the usual few handful of posters on this Yankee Forum board.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
My exact sentiments as well. Perhaps, he was raised, in a family dynamic, where his siblings all had to argue, or cause a scene, just to be seen or heard......

Example: a child, now an adult, (tho' that's yet to be proven); one will act to receive negative attention, rather than get NO attention at all.....

A child's mentality, to stir up shit, just to be heard. Negative re-enforcements, in lieu of positive words/actions.

Or- "There's one in every crowd" mentality, who emulated bullies in School, thinking he could get his way, yet, once called out, he was always the type of wannabe' who got his ass handed to him behind the gymnasium, or hell right in front of a crowd....!

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By the way Matt, I'm still waiting for you to provide a comparable statement from one of Hank's contemporaries regarding his little rant about one of his main rivals-
"Redsox Nation" being a bunch of bullish!t helped created by Redsox fans at ESPN......instead you gave us paragraphs of useless horse-sh!t.......did you and your family sit around the dinner table competing with each other on who can say the most nonsense using the most words? Lmao
 
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blgridesagain said:
Why do you find it nessecary to nitpick, question my integrity or try to prove my opinions unrealistic or ridiculous.......in case anyone has noticed or cared to.
You picked the Yanks to win 82 games....I disagree.....but I'm not quite ready yet to post insulting humiliating pix or videos over it.

...so you have not been insulting to me and others ?...you have not purposely taken threads/posts in an entirely irrelevant and different direction?...and please, don't even try to act like some sort of victim or martyr here or that you're somehow taking the high road here...that's laughable, because you're as guilty as anyone else..

Don't try and portray me as some kind of class clown because I happen to be the minority opinion on a couple of matters according to the usual few handful of posters on this Yankee Forum board.
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...I'm not "portraying" you as anything...you're gradually making yourself into a cartoon all by yourself...and don't start with the people "are putting words into my mouth" garbage, because that would be laughable too. No one has twisted or misquoted anything you've said.
...post what you want but don't cry foul when people disagree with you. Grow a thicker skin, get a dog, seek therapy, or what helps to make you feel better about this apparent life or death forum.
...No one has said that you don't have a right to your own opinion...but what you're having trouble with is realizing that your right to speak your mind is a 2 way street...voicing your opinion does not by default, exempt you from countering opinions from others who feel just as strongly.

...if it were me, and I was grossly outnumbered on a subject, after a few headaches I'd probably realize that banging my head against a hard wall only gives me even more headaches. But hey, again, do what you want, but don't whine about it and act like you're being picked on when people see things differently and tell you so.
 
It's getting to the point that I'm just going to start deleting. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it seems we're reaching the point where every thread heads in the same direction.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I'm not "portraying" you as anything...you're gradually making yourself into a cartoon all by yourself...and don't start with the people "are putting words into my mouth" garbage, because that would be laughable too. No one has twisted or misquoted anything you've said.
...post what you want but don't cry foul when people disagree with you. Grow a thicker skin, get a dog, seek therapy, or what helps to make you feel better about this apparent life or death forum.
...No one has said that you don't have a right to your own opinion...but what you're having trouble with is realizing that your right to speak your mind is a 2 way street...voicing your opinion does not by default, exempt you from countering opinions from others who feel just as strongly.

...if it were me, and I was grossly outnumbered on a subject, after a few headaches I'd probably realize that banging my head against a hard wall only gives me even more headaches. But hey, again, do what you want, but don't whine about it and act like you're being picked on when people see things differently and tell you so.
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Maybe you just may need thicker skin or possibly a less thicker skull to help you better converse with those of us who aren't your basic knee-jerk "yes men"
 
Messiah717 said:
Enough and lets move on. I don't want to see anymore personal posts.
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Well said, I agree wholeheartedly.
Would you mind taking a poll of those who feel Arod will not make it out of ST either by very poor performance, injury or being released by the Yanks.

And.....

How many feel CC will be worse than a # 4 or 5 starter....or possibly not make it out ST.
 
To be honest that's limited poll material. It would be boiled down to will the said players make it out of ST or not.
 
Messiah717 said:
It's getting to the point that I'm just going to start deleting. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it seems we're reaching the point where every thread heads in the same direction.
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...thank you.
 
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