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Fez Forthright said:
25 pts on 25 shots

Suddenly CJ is playing like Portland CJ.
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in the two play-in games and tonight, CJ scored 76 points on 72 shots; Ingram scored 75 points on 57 shots. CJ has averaged 24 shots, Ingram has averaged 19

CJ is in his comfort zone. He can jack up more shots than he ever has. He deferred to Dame, slightly, when they played together. But he sure isn't deferring to Ingram, and Ingram is a better player
 
wizenheimer said:
in the two play-in games and tonight, CJ scored 76 points on 72 shots; Ingram scored 75 points on 57 shots. CJ has averaged 24 shots, Ingram has averaged 19

CJ is in his comfort zone. He can jack up more shots than he ever has. He deferred to Dame, slightly, when they played together. But he sure isn't deferring to Ingram, and Ingram is a better player
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Yeah, he's got a tough defender on him that he has no business jacking up all of those shots against but self awareness on the court has never been CJ's strong suit. Remember he once said that he's a great defender. That was hilarious. That being said, when or if that team has Zion and if CJ or Willie Green will make sure the ball is being spread around, they'll be really good and fun to watch. We'll have to wait and see. I think they have a really fun roster and at the same time I hate them for taking advantage of Cronin's dumbfuckery. I know it's their job to do that but it still infuriates me.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah, he's got a tough defender on him that he has no business jacking up all of those shots against but self awareness on the court has never been CJ's strong suit. Remember he once said that he's a great defender. That was hilarious. That being said, when or if that team has Zion and if CJ or Willie Green will make sure the ball is being spread around, they'll be really good and fun to watch. We'll have to wait and see. I think they have a really fun roster and at the same time I hate them for taking advantage of Cronin's dumbfuckery. I know it's their job to do that but it still infuriates me.
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CJ is a great defender. Everyone in the NBA is a great defender. Kanter is a great defender. These are the best players in the world.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
CJ is a great defender. Everyone in the NBA is a great defender. Kanter is a great defender. These are the best players in the world.
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"Great" is by its very nature a relative term. Thus, when discussing/debating the validity of a statement centered on such, agreement of the context must be reached before said discussion can proceed cogently.

It is clear that when discussing CJ's "great"ness as a defender, most are commenting in reference to other NBA players, not in relation to the basketball-playing public as a whole. Your reply which clearly ignores the obvious context is either intentionally disingenuous or woefully clueless, and lends nothing to the actual discussion at hand.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
"Great" is by its very nature a relative term. Thus, when discussing/debating the validity of a statement centered on such, agreement of the context must be reached before said discussion can proceed cogently.

It is clear that when discussing CJ's "great"ness as a defender, most are commenting in reference to other NBA players, not in relation to the basketball-playing public as a whole. Your reply which clearly ignores the obvious context is either intentionally disingenuous or woefully clueless, and lends nothing to the actual discussion at hand.
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100%. Just like the other day when I said some of our end of the bench guys suck/are fringe NBA players and was told they don't suck and they could beat me in a game.

Cool. I'm not a NBA player trying to win a championship. Not sure how that is relevant.
 
If Zion comes back....

Zion
CJ
Ingram
Valanciunas
Herb Jones
Trey Murphy
Jaxson Hayes
Larry Nance Jr

Plus they have a lotto pick from the Lakers to use in trade or draft someone

I don't know how someone with a straight face could say we will be better than them.
 
Maybe we do enough to get into the play in. The Clippers will be better than us too if George and Kawhi are healthy. We are better than the Spurs.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
If Zion comes back....

Zion
CJ
Ingram
Valanciunas
Herb Jones
Trey Murphy
Jaxson Hayes
Larry Nance Jr

Plus they have a lotto pick from the Lakers to use in trade or draft someone

I don't know how someone with a straight face could say we will be better than them.
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better offense likely but only jones defends. none of the others play mych or any defense for that matter . cj bi and zion cant be bothered to play defense and it was on full display last night with the former two.
 
Cugel said:
better offense likely but only jones defends. none of the others play mych or any defense for that matter . cj bi and zion cant be bothered to play defense and it was on full display last night with the former two.
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We couldn't play defense either and still could be a decent seed.

Ant and Dame in the backcourt isn't going to help things yet on defense.

Defense is something you need to win in the playoffs, not make the playoffs.
 
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SlyPokerCat said:
If Zion comes back....

Zion
CJ
Ingram
Valanciunas
Herb Jones
Trey Murphy
Jaxson Hayes
Larry Nance Jr

Plus they have a lotto pick from the Lakers to use in trade or draft someone

I don't know how someone with a straight face could say we will be better than them.
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In his first 3 seasons, Greg Oden played in 82 games. In his first 3 seasons, Zion has played in 85. The most consecutive games he's played is 24. And, he's a lot heavier now than as a rookie and the off-season is approaching; a time he can get even fatter. It's likely that Zion will never be a sustainable factor for the Pels. Nance has played in 12 of 31 games for the Pels. Neither player approaches anything close to dependable

Hayes had 4 points and 1 rebound last night and he's in his 3rd season. He's averaged 8 & 4 so far in his career. Murphy averaged 5 & 2 this year. Watford averaged 8 & 4 this year; Eubanks averaged 15 & 9. Honestly, if you're using Hayes and Murphy as examples of why the Pels will be better, Watford and Eubanks are examples of why they won't be

really, the comparison should be:

(Zion - maybe)
CJ
Ingram
Valanciunas
Herb Jones
(8th pick)

VS

Dame
Simons
Nurkic
Hart
(6th pick)
(TPE - maybe)

so then, the Pels are depending on Zion's health and Portland is depending on good decisions. Yeah, I know that's worth some giggles
 
After watching playoffs there was a lot run and gun ball being played.
 
Nice to hear Kevin Calabro on this Utah/Dallas game.
 
Driew said:
Nice to hear Kevin Calabro on this Utah/Dallas game.
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Was just gonna mention this.
I normally find him cringeworthy as a Blazer broacaster, but dam, he sounds great on this.
Barely recognized him.
He is a Class A Journalist, no question, but I think that prohibits him from really being anybody's "local guy".
 
Wade Garrett said:
Was just gonna mention this.
I normally find him cringeworthy as a Blazer broacaster, but dam, he sounds great on this.
Barely recognized him.
He is a Class A Journalist, no question, but I think that prohibits him from really being anybody's "local guy".
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Well he's Seattle's local guy. Only reason he's doing Portland games is because the NBA moved the team from Seattle.
 
Speaking of announcers… Kevin Calabro on NBATV for Mavs vs Jazz
 
Warriors fun to watch basketball team is back
 
With Dame back, Ant will be doing what Jordan Poole is doing.
 
Why is the 3 guard lineup works with the Warriors?
 
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