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Minstrel said:
No chance. Paul isn't signing for the veteran's minimum or the mini (taxpayer's) mid-level exception, no matter how much he likes LeBron James.
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He will if he wants a ring, because he isnt getting one any other way.
 
Minstrel said:
Yeah, he won't. I don't think any star still near their prime has ever done that.
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It wont be the vet min, but it will be substantially less than what he could get and the Cavs will make room. When the Cav's dont win it all this year, they will make room.

I think CP3 now knows he wont win if he is number 1, but he can be a great 2nd/3rd wheel.
 
Orion Bailey said:
It wont be the vet min, but it will be substantially less than what he could get and the Cavs will make room. When the Cav's dont win it all this year, they will make room.
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They're way beyond capped out. They have the largest payroll in the NBA by far. Nothing's literally impossible, but unless Paul either wants the minimum or the mini mid-level, I'm fairly certain Paul isn't going to Cleveland.
 
CP3 to CHI, NOP, LAL, OR MIL
BG to BOS, LAL, MIA, or OKC
DJ gets traded to TOR, SAS, or MIL
J.J. to IND, MEM, OKC, or NOP
 
If Neil still has some inside connections to The Clippers then leave them with our snake oils contracts and take away some useful veterans. Get a feel for just how desperate they are.
 
ripcityboy said:
If Neil still has some inside connections to The Clippers then leave them with our snake oils contracts and take away some useful veterans. Get a feel for just how desperate they are.
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The Clippers don't have any useful veterans. CP3 is far and away their best player, we have Dame and CJ. BG is still going to be a max player and honestly I'm not sure he's worth it at this point with his injuries and history. We have Nurk so why would we want DJ?

That leaves the Clippers role players. JJ Reddick would be the most desirable, and that's only because the others are LMBAM, Austin Powers, Crawful, and Donut boy. Actually the only player on their team I'm remotely interested in is a player I've had on my radar for a while - Wesley Johnson. I think Stotts could get the best out of WJ, but I'm not sure that he's good enough to warrant acquiring at this point in our trajectory - that is to say we should have our sights set higher than Wesley Johnson.
 
Minstrel said:
I want to hear Westbrook's pitch. "Think of it, man, think of the possibilities. You come to Oklahoma City and that's like two or three more assists to my average. Easy. We got this!"
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"It obviously didn't work for you playing with a PG who passed you the ball. Why not come to OKC and try playing with one who won't?"
 
CP3 is signing what, a 5 year 210m, contract this summer. no way he goes anywhere else.
 
SheedSoNasty said:
I've heard that he's got moves like Jagger.


[GALLERY=media, 237]IMG_0041 by SheedSoNasty posted Apr 30, 2017 at 11:10 PM[/GALLERY]
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More like Moves like Jäger.

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Orion Bailey said:
He will if he wants a ring, because he isnt getting one any other way.
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Okay. Imagine this. I'm offering YOU Orion Bailey $200 MILLION DOLLARS to star on a basketball team in L.A. OR you can take wayyyy less and ride LeBron's coattails for a CHANCE (no guarantee) at a little thing to stick around your finger and brag about. What would YOU choose? Me? I say yes to the $200 million immediately. There's more to my life than a 15 year career in sports. This extra $200 million sets up family for generations. Easy choice.
 
KingSpeed said:
Okay. Imagine this. I'm offering YOU Orion Bailey $200 MILLION DOLLARS to star on a basketball team in L.A. OR you can take wayyyy less and ride LeBron's coattails for a CHANCE (no guarantee) at a little thing to stick around your finger and brag about. What would YOU choose? Me? I say yes to the $200 million immediately. There's more to my life than a 15 year career in sports. This extra $200 million sets up family for generations. Easy choice.
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$200 million sets up a family for generations. But so does $100 million, to be honest.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
$200 million sets up a family for generations. But so does $100 million, to be honest.
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Not really. $50 mill after taxes. $40 mill after commission. Then divide that over the 40 more years he hopes to live, that's $1 million a year. That won't set up his family for generations. Double is a different story though
 
I could see Griffin fitting well with Porzingis in New York, and Paul/Melo/Jordan could work well together (in the 20 games per year when they're all healthy). S&Ts aren't as common/easy now, and I'm no capologist, but there might be a way it gets done. Not sure what NY could give to sweeten the pot though.
 
KingSpeed said:
Not really. $50 mill after taxes. $40 mill after commission. Then divide that over the 40 more years he hopes to live, that's $1 million a year. That won't set up his family for generations. Double is a different story though
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To be fair, Even getting 3% annual interest (very conservative investments) on $40M would net a person $1.2M a year to live on (pre-tax), leaving the whole $40M for future generations (pre-estate tax tho)
 
KingSpeed said:
Okay. Imagine this. I'm offering YOU Orion Bailey $200 MILLION DOLLARS to star on a basketball team in L.A. OR you can take wayyyy less and ride LeBron's coattails for a CHANCE (no guarantee) at a little thing to stick around your finger and brag about. What would YOU choose? Me? I say yes to the $200 million immediately. There's more to my life than a 15 year career in sports. This extra $200 million sets up family for generations. Easy choice.
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Chris Paul already has $137M in career earnings, so it's conceivable that the whole "setting his family up for generations" thing is no longer top of mind because it's already been accomplished. If that's the case, he may be more interested in legacy than compensation.

That said, I don't know if I can name an NBA player who significantly improved his legacy via late-career ring-chasing. Might I be able to find an answer to that question on NBASpeed.com, my most trusted repository of hoops esoterica?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Chris Paul already has $137M in career earnings, so it's conceivable that the whole "setting his family up for generations" thing is no longer top of mind because it's already been accomplished. If that's the case, he may be more interested in legacy than compensation.

That said, I don't know if I can name an NBA player who significantly improved his legacy via late-career ring-chasing. Might I be able to find an answer to that question on NBASpeed.com, my most trusted repository of hoops esoterica?
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I guess depends on the significant-scale.

Not a perfect example perhaps but I would say Clyde Drexler came the closest to this.
 
I think it's also worth noting that Chris Paul is one of the player representatives of the players' union. While he could rationally choose personally to prioritize "legacy" over money, I still feel that significantly reduces the likelihood that he'll play for peanuts to enrich a billionaire owner. The whole "players should sacrifice their financial interests for the benefit of a much richer organization" idea is the kind of logic the players' union has fought for generations.
 
Minstrel said:
I think it's also worth noting that Chris Paul is one of the player representatives of the players' union. While he could rationally choose personally to prioritize "legacy" over money, I still feel that significantly reduces the likelihood that he'll play for peanuts to enrich a billionaire owner. The whole "players should sacrifice their financial interests for the benefit of a much richer organization" idea is the kind of logic the players' union has fought for generations.
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Commie pinkos. ;)
 
Minstrel said:
I think it's also worth noting that Chris Paul is one of the player representatives of the players' union. While he could rationally choose personally to prioritize "legacy" over money, I still feel that significantly reduces the likelihood that he'll play for peanuts to enrich a billionaire owner. The whole "players should sacrifice their financial interests for the benefit of a much richer organization" idea is the kind of logic the players' union has fought for generations.
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I'm loathe to include players who were traded in that category, otherwise Garnett would be the clear choice. For Clyde, I don't know if his legacy was really improved simply because Houston had already won one title without him before he arrived.
 
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