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Boob-No-More said:
That's for sure.

Anyone who thinks Kyle Lowry s better than Damian Lillard is a clueless moron. There can be no other possible explanation.

Damian Lillard's career play off low is 12 points - one time. With his 8-point performance tonight, Kyle Lowry now has 7 playoff games of 12 points or less this season alone and 23 for his career.

On the other end of spectrum, in 38 career playoff games, Kyle Lowry has only score 20, or more, points just 10 times and only has 4 games of 30 or more points.

In 27 career playoff games, Damian Lillard has scored 20 or more points 19 times and 30 or more points 7 times.
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I want to say Lillard has scored under 14 points in the playoffs once in his career, and that happened this year.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I want to say Lillard has scored under 14 points in the playoffs once in his career, and that happened this year.
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Yep, the 12 points I mentioned in my previous reply is the only time Dame has scored less than 14 in a playoff game in his entire NBA career. As I also mentioned, Lowry has scored 12, or fewer points in a playoff game 7 times this year alone, yet somehow, Lowry's playoff performance this year is being used as evidence he's >Dame.

BNM
 
BlazerCaravan said:
In four seasons, Lillard has scored 20+ points in 41, 44, 43, and 55 games. That's 50%, 54%, 52%, 73% of played games.

FEAST!
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Yea shooting like 30 something percent overall lol

Let Harden do that and everybody would kill him
 
Tunchi said:
Yea shooting like 30 something percent overall lol

Let Harden do that and everybody would kill him
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Check your stats. As I mentioned yesterday Dame shoots higher FG%, 3FG%, FT%, TS% and eFG% than Lowry in the post season. Yet, you insist Lowry>Dame.

BNM
 
Strenuus said:
Let's look at lowry's stats.
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Please do. I haven't bothered to post the exact numbers, because he'll just ignore them and keep posting Lowry>Dame, but here's a small sample:

This year in the playoffs:
Kyle Lowry:
FG% = .361
3FG% = .263

It's not like these are an anomaly, they are pretty close to his career averages:

Career Playoffs:
Kyle Lowry:
FG% = .362
3FG% = .287

Yet, he constantly bitches about Dame's poor shooting, inefficient scoring and says Lowry>Dame.

The facts say otherwise. He'll ignore them. Too inconvenient.

BNN
 
Boob-No-More said:
Please do. I haven't bothered to post the exact numbers, because he'll just ignore them and keep posting Lowry>Dame, but here's a small sample:

This year in the playoffs:
Kyle Lowry:
FG% = .361
3FG% = .263

It's not like these are an anomaly, they are pretty close to his career averages:

Career Playoffs:
Kyle Lowry:
FG% = .362
3FG% = .287

Yet, he constantly bitches about Dame's poor shooting, inefficient scoring and says Lowry>Dame.

The facts say otherwise. He'll ignore them. Too inconvenient.

BNN
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I'd have to look at season stats too...

I know they ain't good, because I've never seen a player with as many 4-14 5-18 games ever like Lowry.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:


Said it after that person held Adams in SA... No place for this bull shit. I also said the only time you should come in contact with players (as a fan) is if you are trying to prevent injury. I could potentially see a case for that here but he definitely pulls DeRozan back into his lap. I now realize that saying "trying to prevent injury" creates a gray area. It's probably best not to come in contact at all, unless you are sticking your hands out to brace a player. There's absolutely no excuse for a fan grabbing a player and physically moving them.

Seems like no action was taken against that Spurs fan, should action be taken against this fan?
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That was pretty flagrant.

The home team should have been assessed a technical, and the spectator should be banned from all NBA games.
 
So are those Warriors fans outside Oracle celebrating after the game really happy with splitting the first 2 games?
 
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Minstrel said:
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CLE is so much better than anyone else in the East right now, but they only won one more game than TOR during the regular season. At first, I thought "Damn, how did TOR win 56 games?" Then I looked at the rest of the East and the real question became, "Damn, how did CLE only win 57 games?"

Other than CLE and TOR, no team in the East won more than 48 games. There just weren't any other dominant teams to push the Cavs. In the West, there were 4 teams that won at least 53 games and the top two teams combined for an unprecedented 140 wins - compared to just 113 combined wins for the top 2 teams in the East. So, top 4 teams in the West = 248 wins; top 4 teams in the East = 209 wins.

And then there were the 76ers, who were 3-49 against other Eastern Conference teams. That's a lot of gimme wins for everyone else in the East.

So, with all the other top teams in the West, and the 76ers in the East, how exactly did CLE only win 57 regular season games?

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
CLE is so much better than anyone else in the East right now, but they only won one more game than TOR during the regular season. At first, I thought "Damn, how did TOR win 56 games?" Then I looked at the rest of the East and the real question became, "Damn, how did CLE only win 57 games?"

Other than CLE and TOR, no team in the East won more than 48 games. There just weren't any other dominant teams to push the Cavs. In the West, there were 4 teams that won at least 53 games and the top two teams combined for an unprecedented 140 wins - compared to just 113 combined wins for the top 2 teams in the East. So, top 4 teams in the West = 248 wins; top 4 teams in the East = 209 wins.

And then there were the 76ers, who were 3-49 against other Eastern Conference teams. That's a lot of gimme wins for everyone else in the East.

So, with all the other top teams in the West, and the 76ers in the East, how exactly did CLE only win 57 regular season games?

BNM
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I honestly don't think the cavs are as good as they look right now. I think they underachieved during the regular season, but are over achieving now in the playoffs. Their real value is probably somewhere in betwixt. They are shooting unbelievably from the 3 point arch during the playoffs, which isn't sustainable long term. It reminds me of the Mavs championship team in that they are both really good teams (but not the best) that just hit pure fire in the playoffs. Maybe the coaching change really did help, somehow.
 
As a note though. If the cavs do continue this hot streak they will indeed win the whole thing.
 
Boob-No-More said:
CLE is so much better than anyone else in the East right now, but they only won one more game than TOR during the regular season. At first, I thought "Damn, how did TOR win 56 games?" Then I looked at the rest of the East and the real question became, "Damn, how did CLE only win 57 games?"

Other than CLE and TOR, no team in the East won more than 48 games. There just weren't any other dominant teams to push the Cavs. In the West, there were 4 teams that won at least 53 games and the top two teams combined for an unprecedented 140 wins - compared to just 113 combined wins for the top 2 teams in the East. So, top 4 teams in the West = 248 wins; top 4 teams in the East = 209 wins.

And then there were the 76ers, who were 3-49 against other Eastern Conference teams. That's a lot of gimme wins for everyone else in the East.

So, with all the other top teams in the West, and the 76ers in the East, how exactly did CLE only win 57 regular season games?

BNM
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They coasted like no other top team has coasted before.

They could've ran through the East as the 8th seed; it really wouldn't have mattered. When you know you're head and shoulders better than any other team in your conference and don't need HCA to win, it's easy to see why they look disinterested for the majority of the regular season.

Maybe one day the East will be competitive ...
 
Kyrie only played 53 games, Frye 26.....I think they are better because of health and the trade. LBJ also tends to pick his spots during the reg season.

Right now they look healthy and deep.
 
This was the season everyone was acting like the East had finally closed the gap against the West with the West having a down year, but I'd still take the top 5 West teams over any other team in the East after the Cavs.
 
theprunetang said:
As a note though. If the cavs do continue this hot streak they will indeed win the whole thing.
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Which makes their ho hum regular season record all the more baffling. They are absolutely dominating the teams in the playoffs that they didn't dominate in the regular season. During the regular season, they were a combined 5-5 against DET, ATL and TOR and now they are 9-0 against those same teams in the playoffs with multiple huge blowout victories.

It sure looks like they underachieved, some would say coasted, during the regular season. Have they become one of those teams, like the Spurs and Shaq/Kobe Lakers used to be that can simply flip a switch and suddenly become dominant?

Of course, the big difference has been their 3-point shooting. They have gone from a slightly above average 3-point shooting team to having an entire roster full of lights out 3-point shooters. LeBron's 3-point shooting hasn't chnaged compared to the regular season, but look at these guys:

Kyrie Irving:
Regular season 3FG% = .322
Playoff 3FG% = .527

J.R. Smith:
Regular season 3FG% = .400
Playoff 3FG% = .484

Kevin Love:
Regular season 3FG% = .360
Playoff 3FG% = .448

Iman Shumpert:
Regular season 3FG% = .295
Playoff 3FG% = .500

Richard Jefferson:
Regular season 3FG% = .382
Playoff 3FG% = .471

Channing Frye:
Regular season 3FG% = .377
Playoff 3FG% = .583

They have gone from a team that averaged 10.7 made 3-pointers per game on .363 3-FG% in the regular season to a team that is averaging 15.7 made 3-pointers per game on .455 3-FG%. Can they possibly remain this hot collectively for the rest of this series and then the finals? If they can, they may just beat the Warriors at their own game.

But, I don't think they will. They will come back down to earth at some point. Even though they blew the Raptors out by 31 points in Game 1 of the ECF, it was not because of their 3-point shooting. At 7-20, it was, by a wide margin, their worst 3-point shooting game of the post season. The 7 made 3-pointers is the only time they've made less than 12 3-pointers in a game in the playoffs, and a big decrease over the 19.3 made 3-pointers per game they averaged against ATL.

Plus, GSW is a MUCH better defensive team, especially on the perimeter, than any of the teams they've faced in the East.

BNM
 
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