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BonesJones said:
What a boring conference finals it's been on both sides.
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I feel like it's been great. No sweep on either side. I still believe any of the 4 teams can win esp since Houston has game 7 at home. Cleveland/Boston series is about to get very interesting. Why must a game be close for it to be a good game? I love blowouts when I'm rooting for the team that's on the good side of the blowout. Teams are exchanging blows. It's good competition. Would someone prefer sweep with all close games? This isn't all directed at you, BonesJones.
 
KingSpeed said:
I feel like it's been great. No sweep on either side. I still believe any of the 4 teams can win esp since Houston has game 7 at home. Cleveland/Boston series is about to get very interesting. Why must a game be close for it to be a good game? I love blowouts when I'm rooting for the team that's on the good side of the blowout. Teams are exchanging blows. It's good competition. Would someone prefer sweep with all close games? This isn't all directed at you, BonesJones.
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Yes, I would. The individual games are boring. How is watching the 2nd half of a 25point blowout fun?
 
kjironman1 said:
I just think it's all because of the super team problem. I would like to see a hard cap. I would like to see limitations on what teams can pay players and how players can "trade themselves". I would like to see incentives for players to stay on the team that drafted them like heavier restrictions on free agency.
I would also like to take away the ability for teams to tank. making it more of a crap shoot to get the #1 pick.
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There is an incentive to stay. The super max. You can only get it with the team that drafts you. And it IS a crap shoot to get the #1 pick. Memphis tanked the most but only got the #4 pick. The order of ping pong balls was franchise changing.
 
KingSpeed said:
I feel like it's been great. No sweep on either side. I still believe any of the 4 teams can win esp since Houston has game 7 at home. Cleveland/Boston series is about to get very interesting. Why must a game be close for it to be a good game? I love blowouts when I'm rooting for the team that's on the good side of the blowout. Teams are exchanging blows. It's good competition. Would someone prefer sweep with all close games? This isn't all directed at you, BonesJones.
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I would prefer 6 or 7 game series's that are good games. It's awful competition to be honest, it's one team comes out and stomps on the other one for a while. Sure I like blow outs if it's the Blazers doing it, but overall I just don't see how it's good for the NBA when the conference finals are 40 point games...
 
BonesJones said:
Yes, I would. The individual games are boring. How is watching the 2nd half of a 25point blowout fun?
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Watching Warriors get destroyed in Game 2 was awesome because I hate that Durant went there. Watching Cavs reassert themselves in Game 3 was reassuring. When I watch the Blazers play and it's a tight game, I'll get a text saying "good game." I say no, a good game is Blazers up 30 as I relax and enjoy.

You don't have to agree with me.
 
And also- sometimes teams come back from 25 down. See OKC vs Utah.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I would prefer 6 or 7 game series's that are good games. It's awful competition to be honest, it's one team comes out and stomps on the other one for a while. Sure I like blow outs if it's the Blazers doing it, but overall I just don't see how it's good for the NBA when the conference finals are 40 point games...
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1 40 point game. Not games.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Ok, but there hasn't been any close ones. You mentioned you liked Houston blowing GS out, well ok did you like watching Houston get blown out twice?
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I said I hate GS so no, I did not enjoy watching them win, lol. A close loss wouldn't have made me happier. In sports, it doesn't always like you want it to. Obviously.
 
If you watch the whole game, there's a lot to enjoy. I think a lot of people don't want to tune in til later and then are bummed out it's not close.
 
KingSpeed said:
If you watch the whole game, there's a lot to enjoy. I think a lot of people don't want to tune in til later and then are bummed out it's not close.
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I’ve been doing the opposite, turn on the games than half way through the third going wel this is crappy basketball and turning it off... I do realize having no rooting interest left doesn’t help but I just don’t think it’s been fun to watch either like one team gets ahead the other team quits and we try again in a couple days.
 
BonesJones said:
Good basketball is competitive.
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KingSpeed said:
There is an incentive to stay. The super max. You can only get it with the team that drafts you. And it IS a crap shoot to get the #1 pick. Memphis tanked the most but only got the #4 pick. The order of ping pong balls was franchise changing.
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True they have given some incentive to stay with the supermax. But without a hard cap and the ability to tread into tax area for a while and then pay more if the team is totally dominant then the "Superteam" will continue to be the way most championships are won. Since 2008 we have 8 championships by superteams and 2 by teams that were build or assembled. However the Spurs being one of them might have been called a super team in 2014. They were stacked. The Dallas Mavericks in 2011 seem to be the odd team out in the last 10 years and even that could have gone bad because LeBron was just in the first year of the Miami super team.
Now i will give you the Lottery is a chance but the tanking team can get no worse than the 4th pick. And the results say they are most likely 1st or 2nd at just under 80%. So yeah "Tanking" is a thing..... It's actually amazing how many teams (three) that have been 9th or worse that got the first pick. But in all cases the second pick went to the worst team. The one time the Blazers got the first pick since the lottery began in 85' they were project to be 6th with a 5.3% chance. The last 4 years in a row have all gone to the worst team in the league record wise.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I expect Cleveland to have about 15 more ft attempts than Boston in game3 and that anytime Boston makes a run the refs will try to put an end to it.
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Ah the refs. We all know they're in the pockets of the NBA brass. If you would come to one of our regular Wednesday night meetings you might learn a thing or two about how to properly conduct a conspiracy.
 
Lanny said:
Ah the refs. We all know they're in the pockets of the NBA brass. If you would come to one of our regular Wednesday night meetings you might learn a thing or two about how to properly conduct a conspiracy.
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I wasn’t really trying to make it a conspiracy theory, most homes teams get more ft’s, and it seems like role players hit more shots at home, which leads to more reaching on defense.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I wasn’t really trying to make it a conspiracy theory, most homes teams get more ft’s, and it seems like role players hit more shots at home, which leads to more reaching on defense.
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Okay, I stand corrected.
 
Lanny said:
Okay, I stand corrected.
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Well the end of it about Boston making runs certainly came off that way so it makes sense. I just think in general refs tend to call games differently for the home team. I don’t think the NBA is rigged or fixed, though I do think officiating isn’t that good, they probably need another ref on the court and some changes but I wasn’t going for the the NBA wants a long series or whatever. Totally understand how that vibe came off though.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Well the end of it about Boston making runs certainly came off that way so it makes sense. I just think in general refs tend to call games differently for the home team. I don’t think the NBA is rigged or fixed, though I do think officiating isn’t that good, they probably need another ref on the court and some changes but I wasn’t going for the the NBA wants a long series or whatever. Totally understand how that vibe came off though.
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There may be some instances where refs give the benefit of the doubt to the home team but I'm a firm believer that refs sincerely try to ref a fair game. If there's a problem I would say it's when you get a ref's emotion going and get a technical foul called. It's a very bad idea to get a ref's emotion involved in calling a game.
 
BonesJones said:
Good basketball is competitive.
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I agree.

In King's blow-out scenario, one team is playing well and having a good game. As long as it's my team, that can be fun once in a while. Like the "Miracle Minute". Fans love when their team does that.

But a good game (emphasis on 'game') is when both teams are having a good game. It's competitive, the score is close, the outcome is in doubt, it's exciting, even nerve wracking. The 'game' is good, not just one team. It's dramatic. That's why I watch sports.

The occasional blow-out by the good guys is enjoyable. But when the games are never competitive, or the outcome is never in doubt, it gets boring. I have other things to do.
 
BBert said:
I agree.

In King's blow-out scenario, one team is playing well and having a good game. As long as it's my team, that can be fun once in a while. Like the "Miracle Minute". Fans love when their team does that.

But a good game (emphasis on 'game') is when both teams are having a good game. It's competitive, the score is close, the outcome is in doubt, it's exciting, even nerve wracking. The 'game' is good, not just one team. It's dramatic. That's why I watch sports.

The occasional blow-out by the good guys is enjoyable. But when the games are never competitive, or the outcome is never in doubt, it gets boring. I have other things to do.
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I was at a Blazer game once upon a time, when they had no three point shot and we were behind by 5 points with about 10 seconds left. They had the ball and called a time out. We won the game during regulation time, meaning no overtime.. That was one of the sweetest wins I've ever experienced. Not quite as good as winning the final game in 1977 nor the thrilling wins by Brandon Roy and Damian Lillard but still very thrilling.
 
Game is over after the first. Celtics continue their putrid road performance after one quarter.
 
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