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Chris Craig said:
And...the Warriors continue to implode

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/warriors-coach-steve-kerr-not-210004389.html
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Durants an amazing scorer and since hes gone to GS they’ve won because they just have so much talent its crazy. However Ive always felt KD didnt really fit with what they want to be. He’s always been kind of an ISO guy who’s height, length and shooting range has made him almost unstoppable. KD is a ball stopper though, thats his game. Prior to KD GS won on passing and player movement leading to great shots for Steph, Klay and the other shooters they had. Its weird to watch them with KD because his style so clearly different than the rest of the teams. This isnt so much a shot at KD as just an observation.
 
Chris Craig said:
Surprised Harden didn't hurt his hamstring with that move
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He might as well have. Here is the crazy part. The Rockets gave CP3 that crazy contract. They have this year and 3 more years Next year 38.5 million, then 41+ million and 44 million. Almost 160 million guaranteed. Paul has had 9 hamstring injuries since 2009. One a year on average. This one will take about a month to get through. With the loss last night they are on the outside of the playoff hunt. Nobody is gonna pick that contract up in trade with his injury history. He is 33 years old and the clock is definitely ticking without question.
 
Crazy triple overtime game between Wiz and Suns.

Beal got his first triple double but some guy named Thomas Bryant had 31 points and 13 rebounds and went 14/14 from the field.
 
Doncic looked great, but went out with a hip contusion. Crashed into some fans. Wonder if he’ll miss our game? Sure seems like we play a lot of teams missing some of their better players.
 
HCP said:
Doncic looked great, but went out with a hip contusion. Crashed into some fans. Wonder if he’ll miss our game? Sure seems like we play a lot of teams missing some of their better players.
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Makes up for the fact Portland still plays without a SF and a PF.
 
riverman said:
Aren't Mike and Joel actually best friends outside of basketball? Thought I read that somewhere years ago.
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You know what. I think the faceless guy dancing in the shirt behind you guys might be a member of Faith No More! He was probably there to remind you to play their music during a Blazer Cable timeout. You should really do that though. Make a certain portion of your audience happy like that.
 
HCP said:
Doncic looked great, but went out with a hip contusion. Crashed into some fans. Wonder if he’ll miss our game? Sure seems like we play a lot of teams missing some of their better players.
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You say that so much when I heard he had a hip contusion I thought of you. Get out of my headspace!!! :blessed:
 
Thomas Robinson is with the Peking Fly Dragons this season. Americans currently on the team are former Blazer Shavlik Randolf, and former Blazer Summer Leaguer Pierre Jackson. Former American Fly Dragons include Stephon Marbury, former Blazer Dorell Wright, and Errick McCollum.
 
SheedSoNasty said:
Crazy triple overtime game between Wiz and Suns.

Beal got his first triple double but some guy named Thomas Bryant had 31 points and 13 rebounds and went 14/14 from the field.
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I really liked Bryant going into the draft a couple years ago. Nice to see him having a good second season. Even better to see him doing it not as a Laker.
 
Don't know if this is the right place to post this. Not sure if anyone's been following it or anything, but Mark Cuban said some things about AAU and Harrison Barnes had his own opinion on it.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...s-comments-about-american-basketball-culture/

My personal experiences with HS and AAU basketball were basically all negative. There were tournaments my HS teams played in where after games we'd have grown men meet us down on the court and start "pressuring us" (us as in there were 2 of us in my school that were decent) to transfer to bigger schools or go play for their programs, and even at my best in HS / College I was maybe d2, I just found the "business" that surrounded basketball felt dirty, from the very beginning, like 7-8th grade. I had two cousins who had pretty bad experiences as well, one was a 7 footer and one was a 6'6 wing, they were better than me in terms of actually being prospects (I stopped growing at 5'10) both had opportunities but they weren't passionate about basketball, the pressure they got at young ages just because they were tall I think pushed them away. So to some extent I "get" what Cuban was saying. However I think you look at the young players in today's game and while they're raw there are at least 15-20 guys 22ish and younger that look like they could be stars someday. In terms of talent the NBA is in great shape, even college has a lot of great athletes. The AAU and the basketball world around middle school and high school kids are doing their part in finding the stand out players for the most part. They're getting talent to the NBA. I think the NBA and the owners have this expectation that they should get great athletes that are already great basketball players. They expect 19-20 year old's to have a tremendous amount of knowledge about the game, and think it's because they don't want to put in the time and resources to develop those young guys. This is where I really disagree with Cuban, there are a lot of Europeans that come here not having a single clue what an NBA offense or defense is supposed to look like, they just don't. They teach shot mechanics well in Europe for young players, but that shouldn't get confused for them "educating" their players better. Usually the the real advantage of playing in Europe is that they're used to playing against grown men.

Anyways this is turning into a rant, I have actually changed my stance somewhat on AAU, I used to have a passionate dislike for it. Now I at least understand why they do what they do, and I think they're actually getting better at preparing the elite kids for elite competition, and sure most of them have mix tapes, but that's because they're good enough to have mix tapes.

Just thought this subject was interesting.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Don't know if this is the right place to post this. Not sure if anyone's been following it or anything, but Mark Cuban said some things about AAU and Harrison Barnes had his own opinion on it.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...s-comments-about-american-basketball-culture/

My personal experiences with HS and AAU basketball were basically all negative. There were tournaments my HS teams played in where after games we'd have grown men meet us down on the court and start "pressuring us" (us as in there were 2 of us in my school that were decent) to transfer to bigger schools or go play for their programs, and even at my best in HS / College I was maybe d2, I just found the "business" that surrounded basketball felt dirty, from the very beginning, like 7-8th grade. I had two cousins who had pretty bad experiences as well, one was a 7 footer and one was a 6'6 wing, they were better than me in terms of actually being prospects (I stopped growing at 5'10) both had opportunities but they weren't passionate about basketball, the pressure they got at young ages just because they were tall I think pushed them away. So to some extent I "get" what Cuban was saying. However I think you look at the young players in today's game and while they're raw there are at least 15-20 guys 22ish and younger that look like they could be stars someday. In terms of talent the NBA is in great shape, even college has a lot of great athletes. The AAU and the basketball world around middle school and high school kids are doing their part in finding the stand out players for the most part. They're getting talent to the NBA. I think the NBA and the owners have this expectation that they should get great athletes that are already great basketball players. They expect 19-20 year old's to have a tremendous amount of knowledge about the game, and think it's because they don't want to put in the time and resources to develop those young guys. This is where I really disagree with Cuban, there are a lot of Europeans that come here not having a single clue what an NBA offense or defense is supposed to look like, they just don't. They teach shot mechanics well in Europe for young players, but that shouldn't get confused for them "educating" their players better. Usually the the real advantage of playing in Europe is that they're used to playing against grown men.

Anyways this is turning into a rant, I have actually changed my stance somewhat on AAU, I used to have a passionate dislike for it. Now I at least understand why they do what they do, and I think they're actually getting better at preparing the elite kids for elite competition, and sure most of them have mix tapes, but that's because they're good enough to have mix tapes.

Just thought this subject was interesting.
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I briefly looked at that. I generally agree with Cuban here.

What I saw of Barnes response basically had to do with race issues.... not skillset. He completely missed understanding Cuban's comments.

When that happens, I question their intelligence
 
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tester551 said:
I briefly looked at that. I generally agree with Cuban here.

What I saw of Barnes response basically had to do with race issues.... not skillset. He completely missed understanding Cuban's comments.

When that happens, I question their intelligence
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I thought Barnes comments kind of missed the mark (pun intended). I mean I dont know Barnes or Mark, Im not privy to any other conversations they have had. Just seemed to be a disconnect between Mark saying American ball players arent taught how to play basketball, and saying that what makes the nba great is all the cultures and stuff represented in the league. It almost seems like they’re not even speaking about the same subject.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I thought Barnes comments kind of missed the mark (pun intended). I mean I dont know Barnes or Mark, Im not privy to any other conversations they have had. Just seemed to be a disconnect between Mark saying American ball players arent taught how to play basketball, and saying that what makes the nba great is all the cultures and stuff represented in the league. It almost seems like they’re not even speaking about the same subject.
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Yep. Exactly my point
 
Wow only 4 teams in the West have a negative point differential, and other than the Suns, the worst one is -1.3. That's crazy!
 
tester551 said:
I briefly looked at that. I generally agree with Cuban here.

What I saw of Barnes response basically had to do with race issues.... not skillset. He completely missed understanding Cuban's comments.

When that happens, I question their intelligence
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Except Cuban mentions players getting an education. That could very well be taken as he thinks American ballers are uneducated...
 
trailblazer18 said:
Except Cuban mentions players getting an education. That could very well be taken as he thinks American ballers are uneducated...
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I've often said that I don't see why we can't import the European model of scouting and coaching to the US.... The Academy System. The Bradenton, Florida Academy that Simons graduated from is similar to this.
Allow the most talented kids an alternative to college where they prepare for pro basketball while getting tutoring and playing competatively. And get the NBA and US Basketball Federation to run it a completely. So the shoe company handlers, low rent "World Wide Wes" cocksuckers, and creepy recruiting gurus.... can't find angles to generate money off these kids existence.
It isn't about removing mixtape culture. It's about removing "graft culture." These kids should have a clear apprenticship path to the profession of their choice. Not just be a link to some other person's ambitions. The NCAA system can still exist but there should be an alternative to that.
 
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trailblazer18 said:
Except Cuban mentions players getting an education. That could very well be taken as he thinks American ballers are uneducated...
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I thought he meant more “education” in terms of knowing how to play basketball. Though I think the ultra talented prospects, “education” is usually not a priority. Its not in Europe either though.
 
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