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The last five games, Klay has averaged 12/4/3 on 35% FG and 18% from 3 in 34 mpg.
 
BonesJones said:
How? Lmao.
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LeBron gets hurt, Warriors get within two and then fall behind by 31. At home. With the world watching. They’re supposed to be the champs. That is worse than our loss to healthy Utah team.
 
KingSpeed said:
LeBron gets hurt, Warriors get within two and then fall behind by 31. At home. With the world watching. They’re supposed to be the champs. That is worse than our loss to healthy Utah team.
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So what? They don't give a fuck about the regular season because theyre so supremely talented. Regular season losses dont mean anything to champs.
 
LeBron isn't hurt. He doesn't get hurt. He's just trolling us..he'll sit out a few games to get his teammates playing well together. Lakers will go 2-1 in his absence. This is all calculated. That's how good he is
 
tester551 said:
How the hell do you know whether I have or have not experienced rasism? You don't know a damn thing about me or where I come from.... I guarantee you that I have.

Unfortunately, racism does still exist in this country...sometime unbelievable acts.

None of that changes the fact that his comments were not racist.
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Yeah, it's never happened to you. I don't believe it has for one second.
 
BonesJones said:
It's his common narrative to try to justify anything he claims as racist. Whenever it's at least somewhat questionable, he sees it as racist. That's fair, but then if someone disagrees about the intent of a comment, he pulls this, as if you have to have experienced direct racism to have an opinion on the intent of someone words... @dviss1, I love ya, but man....
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Look bones, can I deny you housing for being white? A job? would you ever get told to take your family pictures down so you don't lose monetary value in your home during its appraisal? DL Hughley had his house appraised for 100K less for being black. That's REAL LIFE money...

White people don't really experience racism. Plain and simple. They sit idly by and watch as it happens to us.
 
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After watching much of the media, I thought almost everything was racist, sexist, bigoted or homophobic....except in anything Hollywood does or in rap lyrics.
 
dviss1 said:
Look bones, can I deny you housing for being white? A job? would you ever get told to take your family pictures down so you don't lose monetary value in your home during its appraisal?White people don't really experience racism. Plain and simple. They watch idly by as it happens to us.
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Ever heard the proverb, "To the man with a hammer, all the world is a nail"?

I think it's fair to say that white people really don't experience racism, and often don't see racism when it exists. However, I think it's also fair to posit that those who have experienced racism may also have a tendency to infer it in situations where it isn't. Confirmation bias works both ways.
 
oldmangrouch said:
I'm not sure if Barnes missed the point or was trying to change the subject.
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I really think Barnes was standing up for our system with AAU as compared to the Euro model. If I was him I would too. And I also believe Barnes would agree that no system is perfect.
Neither of these guys remarks were wrong in my opinion...
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Ever heard the proverb, "To the man with a hammer, all the world is a nail"?

I think it's fair to say that white people really don't experience racism, and often don't see racism when it exists. However, I think it's also fair to posit that those who have experienced racism may also have a tendency to infer it in situations where it isn't. Confirmation bias works both ways.
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I disagree completely. And that's a terrible analogy.

Hammers need nails or else their existence is futile.

I don't need racism EVER but definitely know what it looks like.
 
dviss1 said:
I disagree completely. And that's a terrible analogy.

Hammers need nails or else their existence is futile.

I don't need racism EVER but definitely know what it looks like.
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It's not an analogy. The proverb is actually about seeing the tool at your disposal as the solution for every problem. Which still doesn't apply, obviously. But the broader concept is the idea of applying that with which one is familiar to everything one sees. Strongly religious people see religious context in everything. The academically-focused view most things through an education lens. For those for whom commerce reigns supreme, every issue is a financial one. And my point is that you are much more likely to see racism in things than I or others in this forum are; and since we are all fallible, it's possible that occasionally you see racism when it isn't actually there.
 
dviss1 said:
Look bones, can I deny you housing for being white? A job? would you ever get told to take your family pictures down so you don't lose monetary value in your home during its appraisal? White people don't really experience racism. Plain and simple. They watch idly by as it happens to us.
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Doesnt mean Cubans comments were racist or had racist intent.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
It's not an analogy. The proverb is actually about seeing the tool at your disposal as the solution for every problem. Which still doesn't apply, obviously. But the broader concept is the idea of applying that with which one is familiar to everything one sees. Strongly religious people see religious context in everything. The academically-focused view most things through an education lens. For those for whom commerce reigns supreme, every issue is a financial one. And my point is that you are much more likely to see racism in things than I or others in this forum are; and since we are all fallible, it's possible that occasionally you see racism when it isn't actually there.
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It doesn't apply here. Also, I'm tired of pointing out racism. I can't wait for the day when I don't have to. The word isn't some tool to be used for whatever purpose. Cuban brought up things black people do, compared it to Slovenia, and already has history of saying hooded black people scare him.

Fuck him.
 
dviss1 said:
You're saying that didn't happen to DL or are you proving my point by not giving a fuck about it!
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Or that nobody's arguing that theres mor racism out there and that scenario doesnt apply to Mark Cuban making statements about the AAU system compared to Euro-system.
 
I have to admit this debate puzzles me. Would being critical of the NBA or NCAA make somebody racist? Cuban has done both. What is it about the AAU that inspires such an emotional response from people on both sides of the debate?
 
dviss1 said:
You're saying that didn't happen to DL or are you proving my point by not giving a fuck about it!
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I'm going to simply stand by my opinion that what you said was absolutely ridiculous. But to get an understanding we could go back to your original statement.
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It's always funny to me when the people who never experience racism are the first to classify what it is...
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It's always funny to me when people who might experience racism are the first to classify who does and who doesn't experience racism. Then they also want to try to tell others what is and isn't racism.
 
kjironman1 said:
I'm going to simply stand by my opinion that what you said was absolutely ridiculous. But to get an understanding we could go back to your original statement.


It's always funny to me when people who might experience racism are the first to classify who does and who doesn't experience racism. Then they also want to try to tell others what is and isn't racism.
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People who say the above statements have never experienced racism.
 
dviss1 said:
People who say the above statements have never experienced racism.
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You have the right to keep thinking that. But you simply do not understand how stupid this would make you look if you had a clue who i was.
 
oldmangrouch said:
I have to admit this debate puzzles me. Would being critical of the NBA or NCAA make somebody racist? Cuban has done both. What is it about the AAU that inspires such an emotional response from people on both sides of the debate?
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It's not that hard. Couple things:

Not every kid who makes it to the NBA plays AAU.

He didn't say shit about the AAU system. He specifically said:

'Take the best kids 7 years before they're an McDonald's all American" (those kids would be 4th and 5th graders)

Then denounced the things black people do like "taunt" and "put together mixtapes".

He's talking about and denouncing basketball culture. Culture that has been created by black people.
 
@dviss1
I absolutely understand that I have never dealt with Racism the way most (if not all Blacks) have. I didn't really read Cubans comments and think that's racist, or really about race at all. I immediately thought of my personal experiences with HS / AAU and my families experiences as well. I will certainly not deny there could be racial motivation to what he said that I didn't get.
I don't want to get into an argument with you, I literally just would like help in understanding why some people have taken it as a purely racist comment, with racist intent.
Respectfully, even if you would rather do it in a private convo could you help me understand why from your perspective, it's a racist comment.

Also what I do to combat racism, is pretty easy... I help those in need, no matter what color they are. I respect people no matter what color they are, or what they believe. I teach my kids to love people. I try to call it out when I see it, I don't stand idly by when someone's getting beaten up, or mocked because of their race and yes I've actually seen it and gotten in fights with white kids who were doing it.

Anyways you may very well be right, and it was racist. I can see that "partially" and I know Cuban has a history of things too. Personally, for anyone who is different than me, whether it's color, creed, gender, etc. I feel like the least they can do is help me to understand what they're going through, or why they take things differently than I do. I can't walk in other people's shoes (figuratively), just like no one here knows what it's like to be me. I try to be a respectful, caring person so I can assure you I didn't read it differently just because I don't want to see it.

Sorry if you already explained it to me and I missed.
 
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