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kjironman1 said:
Ben Simmons with a jumper would be early-career Jason Kidd wrecking ball combined with late-career Jason Kidd spot-up shooter combined with Magic Johnson's size. Or Magic Johnson with Scottie Pippen's defense. Or Darko with game.
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Or Luka Doncic.:bgrin:
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Pretty good story on how Pritchard, Buchanan and Nate do things in Indiana. Two tidbits about the Paul George trade. Owners didn't want draft picks. Only two teams seriously interested; neither was Portland.
https://hoopshype.com/2020/01/24/nb...d-buchanan-oladipo-brogdon-behind-the-scenes/
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Also says they were looking for younger guys with potential. So I don't think Portland had what they wanted and Olshey probably realized that fairly quickly. But, then, why didn't we have any young guys with strong potential?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Also says they were looking for younger guys with potential. So I don't think Portland had what they wanted and Olshey probably realized that fairly quickly. But, then, why didn't we have any young guys with strong potential?
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CJ's only 10 months older than Oladipo and was coming off his career season while Olsdipo was coming off his worst. And it wasn't that the Indiana owners didn't want draft picks, it was more that they wanted a re-set instead of a rebuild. They wanted some talent back, but certainly would not have refused a trade that hit that mark and added some picks. And I'm sure that was communicated to any teams asking about PG's price. So, if Olshey talked to them, which he said he did, it was probably made clear that CJ would be part of the price and that was the end of the road as far as Olshey was concerned.

this kind of makes Quick look full of shit. He said, more than once, that Portland was offering the three picks and a really good set of players. If the article is accurate, Portland never made a serious offer
 
wizenheimer said:
CJ's only 10 months older than Oladipo and was coming off his career season while Olsdipo was coming off his worst. And it wasn't that the Indiana owners didn't want draft picks, it was more that they wanted a re-set instead of a rebuild. They wanted some talent back, but certainly would not have refused a trade that hit that mark and added some picks. And I'm sure that was communicated to any teams asking about PG's price. So, if Olshey talked to them, which he said he did, it was probably made clear that CJ would be part of the price and that was the end of the road as far as Olshey was concerned.

this kind of makes Quick look full of shit. He said, more than once, that Portland was offering the three picks and a really good set of players. If the article is accurate, Portland never made a serious offer
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I didn't realize Oladipo was just a year younger. That throws a different light on it.
 
wizenheimer said:
CJ's only 10 months older than Oladipo and was coming off his career season while Olsdipo was coming off his worst. And it wasn't that the Indiana owners didn't want draft picks, it was more that they wanted a re-set instead of a rebuild. They wanted some talent back, but certainly would not have refused a trade that hit that mark and added some picks. And I'm sure that was communicated to any teams asking about PG's price. So, if Olshey talked to them, which he said he did, it was probably made clear that CJ would be part of the price and that was the end of the road as far as Olshey was concerned.

this kind of makes Quick look full of shit. He said, more than once, that Portland was offering the three picks and a really good set of players. If the article is accurate, Portland never made a serious offer
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I believe Neil’s offer was 3 picks and any players you want not named Dame, CJ, or Jusuf.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
I believe Neil’s offer was 3 picks and any players you want not named Dame, CJ, or Jusuf.
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what he said, IIRC, was a combo of players and picks. And from things he hinted, the players were Meyers and Harkless which matches salary-wise. That's a crap offer for PG13, and that includes 3 non-lottery 1sts in the same draft
 
wizenheimer said:
CJ's only 10 months older than Oladipo and was coming off his career season while Olsdipo was coming off his worst. And it wasn't that the Indiana owners didn't want draft picks, it was more that they wanted a re-set instead of a rebuild. They wanted some talent back, but certainly would not have refused a trade that hit that mark and added some picks. And I'm sure that was communicated to any teams asking about PG's price. So, if Olshey talked to them, which he said he did, it was probably made clear that CJ would be part of the price and that was the end of the road as far as Olshey was concerned.

this kind of makes Quick look full of shit. He said, more than once, that Portland was offering the three picks and a really good set of players. If the article is accurate, Portland never made a serious offer
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CJ definitely had much higher value than Oladipo at the time. Oladipo was not that good at Orlando and had a slightly above average season at OKC next to Westbrook. And Sabonis wasn’t great in his rookie season either, they would have probably even preferred to get that no. 15 and no. 20 instead. The issue was that Olshey would have never offered CJ in any kind of a deal, this was valid two years ago, is valid now and will be valid three years from now.

At the time this was considered terrible value for Indiana. With two years passed it was really an excellent piece of business... hindsight is great. It was great for OKC as well as they got that great season out of PG and traded him for a haul. The only ones who look like fools here are Orlando who traded Oladipo and Sabonis for Ibaka in the first place.
 
wow no Harden and Westbrook and Rockets beat the Jazz at Salt Lake.

Crazy game: The Wolves blew a 17 point lead to the Kings with only 3 mins left lol
 
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DDolla said:
wow no Harden and Westbrook and Rockets beat the Jazz at Salt Lake.

Crazy game: The Wolves blew a 17 point lead to the Kings with only 3 mins left lol
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I saw the Fox missed free throw and put back - but how did the other 15 points get away? If they had literally taken 24 second shot clock violations that game ends.
 
BlazerBeav said:
I saw the Fox missed free throw and put back - but how did the other 15 points get away? If they had literally taken 24 second shot clock violations that game ends.
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I watched that game as I couldn’t sleep, even when Minnesota were leading I still thought their plan for the game was not a good one and they were bailed out by crazy good shooting (were 21/37 at one point) by players you don’t normally expect to make those shots. Kings were playing without a center and Towns hardly got to the rim, they are using him purely as a stretch five which is a huge waste of his talent.

First time in 8,739 attempts that a team down by 17 or more with 3 minutes or less on the shot clock wins a game since they started recording play-by-play in 1996.
 
BlazerBeav said:
I saw the Fox missed free throw and put back
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About that, I've always been told that it's the job of the 3rd guy lining up during FTs to box out the shooter, but they never seem to do it in the NBA. This time was no exception, as Vonleh went straight toward the basket instead of putting a body on Fox, allowing him a straight line to the basket for the putback. Then he even looked around like "yo wtf" when I would say that it was his job to prevent this exact scenario.
 
SIeepwalker said:
About that, I've always been told that it's the job of the 3rd guy lining up during FTs to box out the shooter, but they never seem to do it in the NBA. This time was no exception, as Vonleh went straight toward the basket instead of putting a body on Fox, allowing him a straight line to the basket for the putback. Then he even looked around like "yo wtf" when I would say that it was his job to prevent this exact scenario.
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Learned that stotts defense I see.
 
Just noticed that Kawhi has scored 30+ in 8 straight games, which is tied with James Harden for the longest such streak in the league this year. Load management at its finest.
 
BlazerBeav said:
I saw the Fox missed free throw and put back - but how did the other 15 points get away? If they had literally taken 24 second shot clock violations that game ends.
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Yep. They were actually up 9 with 37 secs left. How did Wolves blow that?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Lowe's 11 things, includes this about Lillard:
"Damian Lillard. That is all.
Lillard is a bad, bad man. I would have included his stats from Portland's past six games, but my laptop caught fire when I looked them up.
Lillard has some Kobe in him, doesn't he?"
Also blurbs on Darius Bazley and Dillon Brooks, among others.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28585379/eleven-nba-things-right-now
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I wish he would have had video of a couple of Dame's near halfcourt shots.
 
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