Around the NBA - October 2017

[Rastapopoulos]

Ball is a good player, his playmaking skills are already almost there, he has good feel for the game. I don't think his shooting will be that much of an issue either, he is probably currently a more reliable shooter than Fultz whose new shooting form is batshit mental.

Not impressed with Fultz at all. A loser in college and doesn't look like much in the NBA, although that may be lingering injuries. Is he going to be the new Johnny Flynn and Smith or Fox the Steph Curry that they passed on? I don't think Philly ever really considered Ball because you can't really play him and Simmons together. They needed a scoring PG and Fultz was supposed to be the shizz.

I'll believe in Ball when the Lakers start winning. He's the kind of player I've always loved - an amazing passer and somebody who looks to run, but that kind of player hasn't really worked recently in the NBA. Now the trend is to have PG duties spread out among a bunch of players rather than have one mastermind dictate everything. (And teams that try that, like Houston and last year's OKC seem easy to stop in the playoffs.)

 

[Pinwheel1]

Not impressed with Fultz at all. A loser in college and doesn't look like much in the NBA, although that may be lingering injuries. Is he going to be the new Johnny Flynn and Smith or Fox the Steph Curry that they passed on? I don't think Philly ever really considered Ball because you can't really play him and Simmons together. They needed a scoring PG and Fultz was supposed to be the shizz.

I'll believe in Ball when the Lakers start winning. He's the kind of player I've always loved - an amazing passer and somebody who looks to run, but that kind of player hasn't really worked recently in the NBA. Now the trend is to have PG duties spread out among a bunch of players rather than have one mastermind dictate everything. (And teams that try that, like Houston and last year's OKC seem easy to stop in the playoffs.)

I compared Fultz to D.Angelo Russell back in February. I was not impressed with him in college either. (other than his athletic ability) So far I have not changed my mind

 

[Sarni]

Not impressed with Fultz at all. A loser in college and doesn't look like much in the NBA, although that may be lingering injuries. Is he going to be the new Johnny Flynn and Smith or Fox the Steph Curry that they passed on? I don't think Philly ever really considered Ball because you can't really play him and Simmons together. They needed a scoring PG and Fultz was supposed to be the shizz.

I'll believe in Ball when the Lakers start winning. He's the kind of player I've always loved - an amazing passer and somebody who looks to run, but that kind of player hasn't really worked recently in the NBA. Now the trend is to have PG duties spread out among a bunch of players rather than have one mastermind dictate everything. (And teams that try that, like Houston and last year's OKC seem easy to stop in the playoffs.)

Sixers had number three pick and could have kept it along with Lakers/Kings pick but they probably felt compelled to at least try and get number one as they did not really need any more young players in the future. Fultz looked good in college, he has only played three games in the NBA so I wouldn't judge him. Fox is a weak shooter too so just like Ball he wasn't going to work next to Simmons. Smith went too low, unless they were trading down he made no sense.

I'm wondering how Simmons would do at PG. With his passing, vision and agility he could be lethal there.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Smith went too low, unless they were trading down he made no sense.

If you think a guy is the best player available, better than the other guys that are "rated" higher, does it really matter where other teams would rank/pick him?

That said, I'm sure if they had wanted Smith, they could easily have traded down and picked up another asset.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I'm wondering how Simmons would do at PG. With his passing, vision and agility he could be lethal there.

He IS their PG - on offense.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Sixers should've offered the #1 pick to us for CJ. He'd be perfect for them.

 

[handiman]

Just got done watching the NO and the Lakers. Walton to me blew it the reason they went on a run got the lead from 22 points down instead staying with that group he switch out with most his starter and the Pelican went on there run. To me you go with who hot at the time and you run with it.

I looked at the Lakers box score after Game 1 or 2, and my immediate thought was, "their bench is probably a better lineup than their starters."

I've always been a fan of Clarkson.

 

[dviss1]

NBA Net Rating: Clippers, Raptors, Blazers In Top-3

The Los Angeles Clippers lead the NBA in net rating after the first week of the 17-18 regular season with a mark of +27.7, followed by the Toronto Raptors at 24.1 and Portland Trail Blazers at 21.5.

NBA Net Rating (Week 1)
1. Clippers: 27.7
2. Raptors: 24.1
3. Blazers: 21.5
4. Grizzlies: 11.4
5. Spurs: 9.5
6. Magic: 7.4
7. Rockets: 7.4
8. Jazz: 5.6
9. Pistons: 4.8
10. Nuggets: 3.8
11. Wizards: 3.4
12. Thunder: 3.4
13. Hornets: 2.9
14. Nets: 2.5
15. Cavaliers: 0.3
16. Celtics: -0.3
17. Warriors: -1.0
18. Wolves: -1.0
19. Heat: -1.5
20. Bucks: -2.8
21. Pacers: -4.2
22. Pelicans: -4.2
23. Kings: -6.2
24. Lakers: -6.4
25. Hawks: -7.8
26. Mavericks: -9.5
27. Knicks: -12.9
28. Bulls: -13.3
29. 76ers: -15.7
30. Suns: -28.7

 

[Mediocre Man]

NBA Net Rating: Clippers, Raptors, Blazers In Top-3

The Los Angeles Clippers lead the NBA in net rating after the first week of the 17-18 regular season with a mark of +27.7, followed by the Toronto Raptors at 24.1 and Portland Trail Blazers at 21.5.

NBA Net Rating (Week 1)
1. Clippers: 27.7
2. Raptors: 24.1
3. Blazers: 21.5
4. Grizzlies: 11.4
5. Spurs: 9.5
6. Magic: 7.4
7. Rockets: 7.4
8. Jazz: 5.6
9. Pistons: 4.8
10. Nuggets: 3.8
11. Wizards: 3.4
12. Thunder: 3.4
13. Hornets: 2.9
14. Nets: 2.5
15. Cavaliers: 0.3
16. Celtics: -0.3
17. Warriors: -1.0
18. Wolves: -1.0
19. Heat: -1.5
20. Bucks: -2.8
21. Pacers: -4.2
22. Pelicans: -4.2
23. Kings: -6.2
24. Lakers: -6.4
25. Hawks: -7.8
26. Mavericks: -9.5
27. Knicks: -12.9
28. Bulls: -13.3
29. 76ers: -15.7
30. Suns: -28.7

Two of top 3 played Phoenix

 

[SportsAndWhine]

Crabbe scores 2o off the bench and no posts?

He did that for us too and he still kinda sucked.

 

[THE HCP]

That’s who everyone should be hating on is Fultz! People just hate Ball’s dad. The kid has game.

 

[SportsAndWhine]

Small Sample Size Fun - We have the 5th best DRtg and the #1 best ORtg after three games. Also, we are getting some whistles (despite our whining about not getting whistles): we're 7th in FTs per FGA (our opponents in aggregate are 9th, so we do foul a lot).

 

[Rastapopoulos]

NBA Net Rating: Clippers, Raptors, Blazers In Top-3

The Los Angeles Clippers lead the NBA in net rating after the first week of the 17-18 regular season with a mark of +27.7, followed by the Toronto Raptors at 24.1 and Portland Trail Blazers at 21.5.

NBA Net Rating (Week 1)
1. Clippers: 27.7
2. Raptors: 24.1
3. Blazers: 21.5
4. Grizzlies: 11.4
5. Spurs: 9.5
6. Magic: 7.4
7. Rockets: 7.4
8. Jazz: 5.6
9. Pistons: 4.8
10. Nuggets: 3.8
11. Wizards: 3.4
12. Thunder: 3.4
13. Hornets: 2.9
14. Nets: 2.5
15. Cavaliers: 0.3
16. Celtics: -0.3
17. Warriors: -1.0
18. Wolves: -1.0
19. Heat: -1.5
20. Bucks: -2.8
21. Pacers: -4.2
22. Pelicans: -4.2
23. Kings: -6.2
24. Lakers: -6.4
25. Hawks: -7.8
26. Mavericks: -9.5
27. Knicks: -12.9
28. Bulls: -13.3
29. 76ers: -15.7
30. Suns: -28.7

Funny how two of the top 3 played the Suns.

 

[THE HCP]

Small Sample Size Fun - We have the 5th best DRtg and the #1 best ORtg after three games. Also, we are getting some whistles (despite our whining about not getting whistles): we're 7th in FTs per FGA (our opponents in aggregate are 9th, so we do foul a lot).

Wait a sec...... who are these hacks on here going to blame if they can’t blame the refs...... Kobe? Ball?

 

[Boise Blazer]

Small Sample Size Fun - We have the 5th best DRtg and the #1 best ORtg after three games. Also, we are getting some whistles (despite our whining about not getting whistles): we're 7th in FTs per FGA (our opponents in aggregate are 9th, so we do foul a lot).

Although it still seems like Lillard gets clobbered and gets no call quite a bit I was shocked at how many calls he was getting in the 4th against the Bucks. If I was a Bucks fans I would have been getting frustrated. I'm not saying they weren't mostly legit but I was still impressed that he was getting calls. I hope that is a good sign for the future. And if you are going to get sporadic calls I would rather they be in the 4th if they aren't going to be consistent.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Two headlines today about the Lakers:
1. They come back from 21 down to almost take the game!
2. Lonzo Ball almost gets a triple-double!

Neglect to mention that the first happened while the second was on the bench.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Although it still seems like Lillard gets clobbered and gets no call quite a bit I was shocked at how many calls he was getting in the 4th against the Bucks. If I was a Bucks fans I would have been getting frustrated. I'm not saying they weren't mostly legit but I was still impressed that he was getting calls. I hope that is a good sign for the future. And if you are going to get sporadic calls I would rather they be in the 4th if they aren't going to be consistent.

Maybe the refs respect you more if you play hard on defense?

Wait a minute... James Harden.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I bet either or both the Lopez twins are available and would be happy to be liberated.

THAT SAID, I would be nervous about doing it for fear of upsetting Nurkic. He's happy here and he put in all that work over the summer, and if we traded for another C after he's had a rocky start it might throw him into a funk. (But Meyers + Vonleh works for RoLo. However they're more likely to want to offload Portis or Mirotic or both at the moment.)

 

[SportsAndWhine]

Wait a sec...... who are these hacks on here going to blame if they can’t blame the refs...... Kobe? Ball?

It’s tough for folks to accept that we got beat fair and square... Milwaukee is just good in ways we aren’t (size size size) right now.

 

[SportsAndWhine]

Although it still seems like Lillard gets clobbered and gets no call quite a bit I was shocked at how many calls he was getting in the 4th against the Bucks. If I was a Bucks fans I would have been getting frustrated. I'm not saying they weren't mostly legit but I was still impressed that he was getting calls. I hope that is a good sign for the future. And if you are going to get sporadic calls I would rather they be in the 4th if they aren't going to be consistent.

The refs gave us love in the 1st and 4th quarters. You can kind of tell who will get love in which quarter early on. I thought we had a great chance but what can ya do.

 

[THE HCP]

It’s tough for folks to accept that we got beat fair and square... Milwaukee is just good in ways we aren’t (size size size) right now.

I'd LIKE your post (I can't believe I'm actually replying to you) but you are a Rook with not enough forum swag. Sorry.

 

[SportsAndWhine]

I'd LIKE your post (I can't believe I'm actually replying to you) but you are a Rook with not enough forum swag. Sorry.

It's cool. No worries.

 

[Sarni]

If you think a guy is the best player available, better than the other guys that are "rated" higher, does it really matter where other teams would rank/pick him?

That said, I'm sure if they had wanted Smith, they could easily have traded down and picked up another asset.

It matters IMO. You don't select someone at three when they are also going to be available at 7 or 8. If they wanted that then as you say they should have traded down. They traded up instead so clearly they didn't rate Smith.

 

[Natebishop3]

If the Thunder completely tank, I'd try to swoop in on Paul George. I think there's a very real chance they lose George and Anthony this summer, and they're left with an unhappy Westbrook and zero bench.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Chris Craig]

It’s tough for folks to accept that we got beat fair and square... Milwaukee is just good in ways we aren’t (size size size) right now.

Yeah, I was upset because I knew we could have won that game. When the game is so close, and the Blazers could have had it had they been smart, with a 3-0 start on the horizon, there is bound to be reaction. Fact is we got tired and let it slip away with foolish mistakes. Bucks are a hell of team, Giannis has a bright future ahead of him in the NBA.

 

[Nate]

I looked at the Lakers box score after Game 1 or 2, and my immediate thought was, "their bench is probably a better lineup than their starters."

I've always been a fan of Clarkson.

Clark son is legit.

He's been the best/most-consistent on that team for a few years now. Russell is really good too. Like young Eric Gordon, but a better passer.

 

[Strenuus]

Clark son is legit.

He's been the best/most-consistent on that team for a few years now. Russell is really good too. Like young Eric Gordon, but a better passer.

A few years? He was in the dleague like 3 years ago lol.

 

[Nate]

A few years? He was in the dleague like 3 years ago lol.

I think you're forgetting how bad the lakers have been the last few years. Who has their best player been?

I also don't think he's ever been to the d-league.

 

[Strenuus]

I think you're forgetting how bad the lakers have been the last few years. Who has their best player been?

I think we're proving each others point. The lakers suck, and Clarkson is only so good that he's making a Lakers team only marginally better in the last 2 years.