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I'm sure that K-Mart is equally contemptuous of black people who straighten their hair or get weaves. Everybody should be natural, right?
 
I felt sorry for Lin when he was in Houston. The looks Harden and Howard would give him were brutal. He did not look like he was enjoying himself......
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I'm sure that K-Mart is equally contemptuous of black people who straighten their hair or get weaves. Everybody should be natural, right?
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I will say though that black hair is one of the more contentious subjects for white people. Y'all are always worried about what our hair is doing. If it's in it's natural state it's "unkempt", "frizzy", "poofy", "big".

If we don't straighten or cut it very short, it's "unprofessional". I've done my hair any way a black man can do his hair. From locks, to braids, to an afro, and I've had the most success in my life when it was short and "not a distraction".

That being said, I think we shouldn't concentrate so much on hair. Who really gives a shit? It's just dead skin cells.

Oh, and what Kmart said as RACIST ADONAL FOYLE.
 
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dviss1 said:
I will say though that black hair is one of the more contentious subjects for white people. Y'all are always worried about what our hair is doing. If it's in it's natural state it's "unkempt", "frizzy", "poofy", "big".
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Made me think of this scene from "Grey's Anatomy" (yes, I watch Grey's. Judge me if you must)

 
dviss1 said:
No. The entire basis for racist isn't ignorance. It's fear.
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All right, one last time.

The entire basis for racist, at its core, is the one thing that is most important to people who have solved their basic needs (food, water, shelter): We all want to feel good about ourselves. You see it everywhere.

Demos think of themselves as compassionate.
Republicans want to think of themselves as smart, or at least "realists".
Christians think they have special knowledge, so do Atheists.
S2ers generally want to think that they have special insights, and are clever - certainly better than Rockets (or other) fans.

These are stories we tell ourselves to help get us through the day.

Unfortunately, many, many people feel they have to put someone else down in order to feel good about themselves. One of the more disgusting examples of this is Racism. "I'm not perfect, but I'm way better than some <insert racial epithet>." Yes, there is an element of fear, but it's mostly based on ignorance. Physical Example: Plenty of big, strong guys are racist against 4 1/2 feet asian chicks - certainly no fear based on physicality. Intellectual Example: William Shockley, inventor of the transistor, was racist to his core, but certainly not afraid intellectually of blacks.

We can disagree, but my hope for everyone still reading this is that they understand that they can be amazing people without putting others down.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
All right, one last time.

The entire basis for racist, at its core, is the one thing that is most important to people who have solved their basic needs (food, water, shelter): We all want to feel good about ourselves. You see it everywhere.

Demos think of themselves as compassionate.
Republicans want to think of themselves as smart, or at least "realists".
Christians think they have special knowledge, so do Atheists.
S2ers generally want to think that they have special insights, and are clever - certainly better than Rockets (or other) fans.

These are stories we tell ourselves to help get us through the day.

Unfortunately, many, many people feel they have to put someone else down in order to feel good about themselves. One of the more disgusting examples of this is Racism. "I'm not perfect, but I'm way better than some <insert racial epithet>." Yes, there is an element of fear, but it's mostly based on ignorance. Physical Example: Plenty of big, strong guys are racist against 4 1/2 feet asian chicks - certainly no fear based on physicality. Intellectual Example: William Shockley, inventor of the transistor, was racist to his core, but certainly not afraid intellectually of blacks.

We can disagree, but my hope for everyone still reading this is that they understand that they can be amazing people without putting others down.
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It's the fear of the loss of resources to someone you feel is inferior to you. Not sure why you're bringing dems/repubs into this.
 
dviss1 said:
It's fear bro.
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Yeah I've heard people say that.
'Better the evil I know than the evil I don't know.'

However imo that gives them an easy out.
I'd rather call them ignorant.

dviss1 said:
I will say though that black hair is one of the more contentious subjects for white people. Y'all are always worried about what our hair is doing. If it's in it's natural state it's "unkempt", "frizzy", "poofy", "big".

If we don't straighten or cut it very short, it's "unprofessional". I've done my hair any way a black man can do his hair. From locks to braids to an afro and I've had the most success in my life when it was short and "not a distraction".

That being said, I think we shouldn't concentrate so much on hair. Who really gives a shit? It's just dead skin cells.

Oh, and what Kmart said as RACIST ADONAL FOYLE.
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I think hair goes across for all races if unkept it's considered 'unprofessional'.
I couldn't get a job in high school because I refuse to cut my hair. It was longer than Steve Nash's hair. Actually my bangs went down past my nose, and I'd always have people telling me to put my hair in a ponytail.
I showed up for an interview and had the interviewer tell me straight out my hair was too long and they won't interview me.
Same for exposed tattoos. My cousin couldn't get a job at plato's closet in beaverton because she had an arm sleeve. She was 18 but they refused to interview her. 'Against company policy'.

I know what you mean about hair though. My mother would always ask me about Crabbe's hair, if I thought it looked good.
I'd say to her. IDC I'm watching the game, don't really care what someone does with their hair.
My mother also hated my hair in high school. She'd try to get me to cut it weekly.
 
honkicracker said:
Yeah I've heard people say that.
'Better the evil I know than the evil I don't know.'

However imo that gives them an easy out.
I'd rather call them ignorant.



I think hair goes across for all races if unkept it's considered 'unprofessional'.
I couldn't get a job in high school because I refuse to cut my hair. It was longer than Steve Nash's hair. Actually my bangs went down past my nose, and I'd always have people telling me to put my hair in a ponytail.
I showed up for an interview and had the interviewer tell me straight out my hair was too long and they won't interview me.
Same for exposed tattoos. My cousin couldn't get a job at plato's closet in beaverton because she had an arm sleeve. She was 18 but they refused to interview her. 'Against company policy'.

I know what you mean about hair though. My mother would always ask me about Crabbe's hair, if I thought it looked good.
I'd say to her. IDC I'm watching the game, don't really care what someone does with their hair.
My mother also hated my hair in high school. She'd try to get me to cut it weekly.
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If I wear my hair in it's natural state it isn't "unprofessional". It's not about the length. But you're just illustrating my point. We concentrate too much on dead skin cells.
 
I wish I could edit most posts @SlyPokerDog I'd add this in. Will just make a new one.
Giving someone an out because they're 'afraid' is wrong imo.
I remember a couple months ago a news story happening of a white guy hollering and chasing some muslim women with his car in Portland.
He was arrested rightfully so.
But then news interviewed him and he said something like.
'I've only been taught to fear them. It's not my fault I don't know anything else. I was just afraid they were going to bomb my city'. I'd like them to sit down and talk with me instead of press charges, because I was just afraid.'
Literally the dumbest shit ever. He was ignorant, and tried to play the victim card to get them to drop the charges.
Fuck him.
I'll never give someone an out because they're afraid of what someone looks like.

But yeah I respect that you call it fear, I can totally see that.
Please don't take this as I don't.
 
honkicracker said:
Yeah I've heard people say that.
'Better the evil I know than the evil I don't know.'

However imo that gives them an easy out.
I'd rather call them ignorant.



I think hair goes across for all races if unkept it's considered 'unprofessional'.
I couldn't get a job in high school because I refuse to cut my hair. It was longer than Steve Nash's hair. Actually my bangs went down past my nose, and I'd always have people telling me to put my hair in a ponytail.
I showed up for an interview and had the interviewer tell me straight out my hair was too long and they won't interview me.
Same for exposed tattoos. My cousin couldn't get a job at plato's closet in beaverton because she had an arm sleeve. She was 18 but they refused to interview her. 'Against company policy'.

I know what you mean about hair though. My mother would always ask me about Crabbe's hair, if I thought it looked good.
I'd say to her. IDC I'm watching the game, don't really care what someone does with their hair.
My mother also hated my hair in high school. She'd try to get me to cut it weekly.
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And please don't act like white people have to deal with this:

WAR ON BLACK HAIR: WEARING BRAIDS GETS BLACK GIRLS BANNED FROM PROM AT MALDEN CHARTER SCHOOL IN MASSACHUSETTS

Two black female students attending a charter school in Massachusetts were recently kicked off their sports teams and prohibited from attending a prom because they wore their hair in braids. The Mystic Valley Regional Charter School in Malden, about 9 miles from Boston, enforces a strict dress code preventing students from wearing their hair in any unnatural way, which includes braids.

Twin students Maya and Deanna Cook, African-American sophomores, told local news outlets they were first told to take their braids out two weeks ago by school officials. The girls’ adoptive mother, Colleen Cook, told Boston’s 25 News that she received a call from the school informing her that students weren’t allowed to wear “anything artificial or unnatural in their hair.”

“We told them there’s nothing wrong with their hair the way it is. Their hair is beautiful, there’s no correcting that needs to be done,” Colleen Cook said, adding that the hair policy seems to target only students of color, who wear their hair in braids or extensions reflecting their African-American culture.

The dress code policy listed on the school’s website says students cannot wear “drastic or unnatural hair colors or styles such as shaved lines or shaved sides or have a hairstyle that could be distracting to other students (extra-long hair or hair more than 2 inches in thickness or height is not allowed). This means no coloring, dying, lightening (sun-in) or streaking of any sort. Hair extensions are not allowed. Hair elastics must be worn in the hair and not on the wrist.”

After two weeks of daily detention for refusing to take down their braids, Colleen Cook said, the girls were told they could not attend the prom and were removed from their sports teams.

The Cook girls are just two of many black and biracial students who have been subjected to daily detention because of dress code violations at the school. Other parents told 25 News that their children had also been suspended for wearing braids, and following the latest Cook sisters punishment, black students were singled out for a hair inspection.

“All the little black children were marched down for a hair inspection, whether they had braids or not, and asked, ‘Are those extensions, are your braids real or not?’” Colleen Cook said.

Alexander Dan, the school’s interim director, said in a statement that the dress code policy aims to serve a “diverse student population” that fosters “a culture that emphasizes education rather than style, fashion or materialism. Our policy on hair extensions, which tend to be very expensive, is consistent with, and a part of, the educational environment that we believe is so important to our students’ success.”

The Mystic Valley Regional Charter School is just one of many such schools that have come under fire for enforcing dress code policies that prohibit braids and other hairstyles representative of African-American culture. In 2016, Butler High School in Louisville, Kentucky, was accused of implementing a racist dress code policy after it banned students from wearing dreadlocks, corn rows and braids. The school amended the controversial hair policy following a flood of reaction from outraged parents, including state Representative Attica Scott, a Democrat, who took to social media to condemn the school.

In 2014, the U.S. military faced a severe backlash after banning natural hairstyles like dreadlocks and twists.
 
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honkicracker said:
I wish I could edit most posts @SlyPokerDog I'd add this in. Will just make a new one.
Giving someone an out because they're 'afraid' is wrong imo.
I remember a couple months ago a news story happening of a white guy hollering and chasing some muslim women with his car in Portland.
He was arrested rightfully so.
But then news interviewed him and he said something like.
'I've only been taught to fear them. It's not my fault I don't know anything else. I was just afraid they were going to bomb my city'. I'd like them to sit down and talk with me instead of press charges, because I was just afraid.'
Literally the dumbest shit ever. He was ignorant, and tried to play the victim card to get them to drop the charges.
Fuck him.
I'll never give someone an out because they're afraid of what someone looks like.

But yeah I respect that you call it fear, I can totally see that.
Please don't take this as I don't.
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Who gave them an out? You should always face your fears. The problem is they don't.
 
dviss1 said:
Who gave them an out? You should always face your fears. The problem is they don't.
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I see him playing the victim card because he was afraid as him attempting to find an out.
'Oh I'm just a poor little white guy whos afraid'.
No fuck you dude. You don't get to play the victim.

Maybe I'm harsh, idk. I just don't like people who play the victim.


dviss1 said:
And please don't act like white people have to deal with this:

WAR ON BLACK HAIR: WEARING BRAIDS GETS BLACK GIRLS BANNED FROM PROM AT MALDEN CHARTER SCHOOL IN MASSACHUSETTS

Two black female students attending a charter school in Massachusetts were recently kicked off their sports teams and prohibited from attending a prom because they wore their hair in braids. The Mystic Valley Regional Charter School in Malden, about 9 miles from Boston, enforces a strict dress code preventing students from wearing their hair in any unnatural way, which includes braids.

Twin students Maya and Deanna Cook, African-American sophomores, told local news outlets they were first told to take their braids out two weeks ago by school officials. The girls’ adoptive mother, Colleen Cook, told Boston’s 25 News that she received a call from the school informing her that students weren’t allowed to wear “anything artificial or unnatural in their hair.”

“We told them there’s nothing wrong with their hair the way it is. Their hair is beautiful, there’s no correcting that needs to be done,” Colleen Cook said, adding that the hair policy seems to target only students of color, who wear their hair in braids or extensions reflecting their African-American culture.

The dress code policy listed on the school’s website says students cannot wear “drastic or unnatural hair colors or styles such as shaved lines or shaved sides or have a hairstyle that could be distracting to other students (extra-long hair or hair more than 2 inches in thickness or height is not allowed). This means no coloring, dying, lightening (sun-in) or streaking of any sort. Hair extensions are not allowed. Hair elastics must be worn in the hair and not on the wrist.”

After two weeks of daily detention for refusing to take down their braids, Colleen Cook said, the girls were told they could not attend the prom and were removed from their sports teams.

The Cook girls are just two of many black and biracial students who have been subjected to daily detention because of dress code violations at the school. Other parents told 25 News that their children had also been suspended for wearing braids, and following the latest Cook sisters punishment, black students were singled out for a hair inspection.

“All the little black children were marched down for a hair inspection, whether they had braids or not, and asked, ‘Are those extensions, are your braids real or not?’” Colleen Cook said.

Alexander Dan, the school’s interim director, said in a statement that the dress code policy aims to serve a “diverse student population” that fosters “a culture that emphasizes education rather than style, fashion or materialism. Our policy on hair extensions, which tend to be very expensive, is consistent with, and a part of, the educational environment that we believe is so important to our students’ success.”

The Mystic Valley Regional Charter School is just one of many such schools that have come under fire for enforcing dress code policies that prohibit braids and other hairstyles representative of African-American culture. In 2016, Butler High School in Louisville, Kentucky, was accused of implementing a racist dress code policy after it banned students from wearing dreadlocks, corn rows and braids. The school amended the controversial hair policy following a flood of reaction from outraged parents, including state Representative Attica Scott, a Democrat, who took to social media to condemn the school.

In 2014, the U.S. military faced a severe backlash after banning natural hairstyles like dreadlocks and twists.
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I'm not saying that white people have to deal with everything.
I'm just saying that styles that are considered 'unkept' are unprofessional.
I think it's stupid, if you can do the job then it shouldn't be an issue.
However it is, and it's something everyone has to deal with if they've picked a hairstyle that isn't considered acceptable by mainstream society.
Sad to say, most 'black' hairstyles aren't considered acceptable by mainstream society. Just like long hair on white men isn't considered acceptable.
 
honkicracker said:
I see him playing the victim card because he was afraid as him attempting to find an out.
'Oh I'm just a poor little white guy whos afraid'.
No fuck you dude. You don't get to play the victim.

Maybe I'm harsh, idk. I just don't like people who play the victim.




I'm not saying that white people have to deal with everything.
I'm just saying that styles that are considered 'unkept' are unprofessional.
I think it's stupid, if you can do the job then it shouldn't be an issue.
However it is, and it's something everyone has to deal with if they've picked a hairstyle that isn't considered acceptable by mainstream society.
Sad to say, most 'black' hairstyles aren't considered acceptable by mainstream society. Just like long hair on white men isn't considered acceptable.
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I had very nice dreadlocks:
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They were not "unkempt". But I was told "The commissioner's not gonna give you any Varsity games until you cut your hair".
 
dviss1 said:
I will say though that black hair is one of the more contentious subjects for white people. Y'all are always worried about what our hair is doing. If it's in it's natural state it's "unkempt", "frizzy", "poofy", "big".

If we don't straighten or cut it very short, it's "unprofessional". I've done my hair any way a black man can do his hair. From locks to braids to an afro and I've had the most success in my life when it was short and "not a distraction".

That being said, I think we shouldn't concentrate so much on hair. Who really gives a shit? It's just dead skin cells.

Oh, and what Kmart said as RACIST ADONAL FOYLE.
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Congratulations to Jeremy Lin for making us all fascinated by Asian hair. How does he get it to do that? Dreadlocks should be IMPOSSIBLE for him.
 
dviss1 said:
Says the person who has no clue.

Anyone can lock their hair.
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Thank you. I was confused by Rasta's comment, but didn't want to reply out of ignorance.
 
dviss1 said:
No that's false. If I meet a white guy and he says "hey brotha slide me some skin", is he being racist?

No. He's being ignorant.
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You know what's weird, the players come up to me and talk to me differently then they do, say my boss and a couple other suburban white tv guys that travel with us. I talk to them different as well. It's just how and who I was raised around. I mean I'm not as blatant as the white kid in Barbershop, but I don't think I'm being ignorant.

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HCP said:
You know what's weird, the players come up to me and talk to me differently then they do, say my boss and a couple other suburban white tv guys that travel with us. I talk top them different as well. It's just how and who I was raised around. I mean I'm not as blatant as the white kid in Barbershop, but I don't think I'm being ignorant.

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No dude. I'm talking about talking to someone you don't know. The white guy you've never met not the one you have a rapport with. And besides, you went to Grant.
 
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