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wizenheimer said:
ok. Apparently you believe that Billups will turn the same core that has averaged less than 46 wins and has a 22-40 record in the playoffs into a contender. Discipline is the magic beans

the problem with counting on ball movement is you need more than one consistently good passer on a team to make it work. Portland doesn't have that
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Yes, I believe that.
 
wizenheimer said:
ok. Apparently you believe that Billups will turn the same core that has averaged less than 46 wins and has a 22-40 record in the playoffs into a contender. Discipline is the magic beans

the problem with counting on ball movement is you need more than one consistently good passer on a team to make it work. Portland doesn't have that
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Zeller Nurk and Nance are all excellent passers...
 
wizenheimer said:
ok. Apparently you believe that Billups will turn the same core that has averaged less than 46 wins and has a 22-40 record in the playoffs into a contender. Discipline is the magic beans

the problem with counting on ball movement is you need more than one consistently good passer on a team to make it work. Portland doesn't have that
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Actually they do. Dame is a very good passer, probably underrated with his uncanny ability to hit crazy angles past defenders, and Nurk is a fabulous passer at center. Not Jokic, but pretty damn amazing. That's 2. CJ isn't crappy either. He just needs to cut down on the dribbling exhibition.
 
The Blazers have won more than the Vegas odds every year under Stotts. You do not win against the house for 9 years consecutively if you are not doing something right - it is statistically nearly impossible.

it does not mean that Billups will fail and I sure hope he does not, but the problem for Stotts was first and foremost a combination of roster and health - and unless this changes, even the best coaches of all time could not succeed as we have seen Popovich and Phil Jackson coached teams struggle when faced with these problems.
 
wizenheimer said:
I have not one single clue how people can jump to that conclusion, other than wishful thinking. Please explain

I get that Stotts needed to go. His coaching peaked in 2017-18; his defenses were poor; his rotations were loopy; and his offense became remedial

but Portland isn't getting 28 year old Billups starting in the back court. They are getting 45 year old Billups in his 1st year of being a HC and only 2nd year of being a coach at any level. In fact, Billups moved from not a single game of coaching experience, to assistant coach, to head coach, in less than 7 months. That's it...he has less than 7 months of coaching experience. Not 7 years...7 months!

what in his resume as a coach makes anyone convinced he will be a good coach? I'm not saying he won't be....I'm just saying all the positive feelings about Billups seem to be based on his playing career, or maybe on things he's said...or simply that he's not Stotts. That's a real shallow cup to pour all the expectations for his greatness into
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Kerr had absolutely no experience and took Warriors from out in first round to title in his first season.
 
riverman said:
Thanks for sharing this...he looks chilled out and at peace in his retirement .....good to see. Hope he's writing a book.
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Retirement?

Probably on Indeed seeing if his resume got any hits
 
royo said:
Don't know about his contract, but he might be clearing his way out of the league.
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Ended in Minny for now, so China next season. He probably regret his performance during Lillard's free throws.
 
Chris Craig said:
Retirement?

Probably on Indeed seeing if his resume got any hits
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He took a year off after the Bucks fired him before coming back to Dallas. I am certain he will do the same this time around, especially since he is still being paid, before deciding if he wants to work again...
 
B-Roy said:
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this is really difficult to listen to. Good Lord, he's not a good interview at all. Monotonous, hardly any useful anecdotes, struggles to finish sentences. Baffling how he stuck that long as a head coach when he's such a poor orator-- you'd figure this is a big part of the job . And this host is not helping. Here's an exchange:

Q: "What is your favorite word?"
A: "I don't have a favorite word."

nails on a chalkboard...
 
illmatic99 said:
this is really difficult to listen to. Good Lord, he's not a good interview at all. Monotonous, hardly any useful anecdotes, struggles to finish sentences. Baffling how he stuck that long as a head coach when he's such a poor orator-- you'd figure this is a big part of the job . And this host is not helping. Here's an exchange:

Q: "What is your favorite word?"
A: "I don't have a favorite word."

nails on a chalkboard...
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His interviews with Dan Sheldon were generally pretty entertaining. I think he's just the kind of guy who needs to have a rapport with someone before he can really get going.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
His interviews with Dan Sheldon were generally pretty entertaining. I think he's just the kind of guy who needs to have a rapport with someone before he can really get going.
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this sarah spain character just spent 2 minutes on the spelling of the word, dilemma.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I don't know that this is necessarily the right thread for this, but I don't know that we have a place for random NBA-adjacent content, so here you go...

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Looks like he's having a mid life crisis. His wife was openly having sex with a rapper 18 years younger than her husband.
 
I think it's funny that people are attributing the team's success to Stotts...

Damian Lillard has CARRIED this team. Every bit of Stott's success relied on him.

LILLARD is the reason why we beat Vegas odds.

Edit: I'd argue also that Lillard being unsuccessful in the post season is 100% Stotts.
 
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dviss1 said:
I think it's funny that people are attributing the team's success to Stotts...

Damian Lillard has CARRIED this team. Every bit of Stott's success relied on him.

LILLARD is the reason why we beat Vegas odds.
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On Lillard we agree . But Stotts helped Dame with not putting constraints on his progression as a player. Many other coaches might have kept him from reaching this level with their own agendas.
 
Chris Craig said:
Retirement?

Probably on Indeed seeing if his resume got any hits
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You are not 63 like Terry is CC....you'll look back and understand the attraction one day to not needing to go to work ever again...it's great...I'm sure he will stay connected to the game but he might not coach again..he said after the New Orleans series that if he coached elsewhere he'd like to coach in France where he played...he'd be a great Euro ball coach in my view..
 
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tykendo said:
On Lillard we agree . But Stotts helped Dame with not putting constraints on his progression as a player. Many other coaches might have kept him from reaching this level with their own agendas.
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His coaching character flaw of not reigning in his players did allow Lillard to be like Eric Cartman on Maury:

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PtldPlatypus said:
His interviews with Dan Sheldon were generally pretty entertaining. I think he's just the kind of guy who needs to have a rapport with someone before he can really get going.
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Stotts talks like someone from Iowa....I grew up there...people who talked a lot and were loud and gregarious we called New Yorkers....it's a different culture from the coasts and cities where being loud is survival..people of few words in Iowa...mostly passing references to the weather or sports...when I left there and joined the Navy I was shocked at how fast people talked from other places and how long they'd go on talking about nothing.
 
tykendo said:
On Lillard we agree . But Stotts helped Dame with not putting constraints on his progression as a player. Many other coaches might have kept him from reaching this level with their own agendas.
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But his coaching failures had us losing double digit leads in winnable games vs GSW because Lillard was being trapped all 2nd half.

His coaching failures did not allow him to use Nurkic effectively at all.

His coaching failures had CJ saying:

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dviss1 said:
But his coaching failures had us losing double digit leads in winnable games vs GSW because Lillard was being trapped all 2nd half.

His coaching failures did not allow him to use Nurkic effectively at all.

His coaching failures had CJ saying:

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He could have been the perfect coach for Dame for the beginning of his career. He was given the freedom to become who he is now.
 
Hoopguru said:
He could have been the perfect coach for Dame for the beginning of his career. He was given the freedom to become who he is now.
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This has already been said and again IMO that is simply a coaching flaw.

dviss1 said:
His coaching character flaw of not reigning in his players did allow Lillard to be like Eric Cartman on Maury:
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