OT Asia Argento accused of paying hush money to silence sexual assault allegations

[Lanny]

She paid him off to not go to the authorities. If she had sex when he was 17, that is legally rape in the state of California

What if cows could fly.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...how many times do I have to say it?, NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED?

Because she paid hush money. Same as Weinstein did.

Doesn't mean it didn't happen

 

[Lanny]

Because she paid hush money.

That's not a legal issue, that's a publicity issue.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

That's not a legal issue, that's a publicity issue.

Its a legal document she signed.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

This is probably the tip of the iceberg for her.

 

[riverman]

She paid him off to not go to the authorities. If she had sex when he was 17, that is legally rape in the state of California

I understand this....and with this story breaking she's lost all credibility in the #metoo movement...I simply don't have enough info...but again...getting a BJ and 380,000 bucks....I wouldn't be taking her to court for it but that's me....he should have refused the money and taken her to court when he was 17 if he's feeling so abused....as it is, he spent the money and still called her a friend for long after the fact

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I understand this....and with this story breaking she's lost all credibility in the #metoo movement...I simply don't have enough info...but again...getting a BJ and 380,000 bucks....I wouldn't be taking her to court for it but that's me....he should have refused the money and taken her to court when he was 17 if he's feeling so abused....as it is, he spent the money and still called her a friend for long after the fact

You can say the same about the Weinstein accusers prior to this while #MeToo movement. Its just hypocrisy to defend her while supporting that Me Too shit

 

[yankeesince59]

Because she paid hush money. Same as Weinstein did.

Doesn't mean it didn't happen

...doesn't mean that I didn't have sex with Jennifer Garner last night either.

...Trump paid hush money too...what's your point?

 

[riverman]

You can say the same about the Weinstein accusers prior to this while #MeToo movement. Its just hypocrisy to defend her while supporting that Me Too shit

I've never defended her.....you're twisting my words...as far as I know though she didn't offer to ruin his career if he didn't fuck her...or offer him a job if he did...Weinstein did those things and according to 70 some women made a practice of it....this kid claimed to love the woman all along...any claim to love Weinstein? nah....didn't think so....not at all the same situations...you have every right to criticize her....just as I have every right to question the kid's motives for bringing it up now given the circumstances. She was wrong....but was he consensual or was he raped, drugged, threatened, etc.....

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I've never defended her.....you're twisting my words...as far as I know though she didn't offer to ruin his career if he didn't fuck her...or offer him a job if he did...Weinstein did those things and according to 70 some women made a practice of it....this kid claimed to love the woman all along...any claim to love Weinstein? nah....didn't think so....not at all the same situations

By implying the accuser should have loved having sex with her .....you are defending her.

 

[riverman]

Does not compute...

barfo

good catch...in response to aunts....they were all aunts by marrying my blood relatives....uncles... female cousins...that's a different story and I'll never tell

 

[riverman]

bullshit

..not saying she wasn't wrong because clearly she was….

you're twisting my words bro....

 

[riverman]

By implying the accuser should have loved having sex with her .....you are defending her.

I also didn't say he loved it...I said I don't know the details but that I would have probably loved it.....and jokingly said you probably would have too

 

[yankeesince59]

...lol...love playing this game of pretzel logic.

....Asia Argento attorneys could probably argue that the root of the reason that prompted her to have sex with a 17 year old was that she was permanently "scarred and twisted" from being abused herself by,.........wait for it..........wait for it...............Harvey freaking Weinstein.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...lol...love playing this game of pretzel logic.

....Asia Argento attorneys could probably argue that the root of the reason that prompted her to have sex with a 17 year old was that she was permanently "scarred and twisted" from being abused herself by,.........wait for it..........wait for it...............Harvey freaking Weinstein.

Any reasonable lawyer would make that argument inadmissible. It would give her carte blanche to do whatever the fuck she wants if she can always blame it on Harvey.

 

[yankeesince59]

By implying the accuser should have loved having sex with her .....you are defending her.

...he never said that...go back and read for yourself.

...he didn't "imply" that...you "inferred" that....your error, not his.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...he never said that...go back and read for yourself.

...he didn't "imply" that...you "inferred" that....your error, not his.

"yeah but admit it....if she did that to you as a 17 year old you'd be braggin' about it to this day....17 year old millionaire actor gets blown by 37 year old millionaire actress....personally I remember being 17 and it would have definitely been consensual for me...I have trouble understanding this one given that he kept a loving relationship with her for years until recently...when his money has dried up"

He implies that you or I should have seen it as consensual.

He fails to realize that if you are 17, legally it cannot be consensual sex.

 

[yankeesince59]

Any reasonable lawyer would make that argument inadmissible. It would give her carte blanche to do whatever the fuck she wants if she can always blame it on Harvey.

...among other things, you're not a reasonable lawyer either.

...on what grounds could a lawyer logically make that argument "inadmissible" if there is ever a trial and if her lawyer uses that as a defense?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...among other things, you're not a reasonable lawyer either.

...on what grounds could a lawyer logically make that argument "inadmissible" if there is ever a trial and if her lawyer uses that as a defense?

It happens all the time. Not relevant to the facts of the case, being that she had sex with a minor. Harvey Weinstein's existence has no bearing on this at all.

 

[yankeesince59]

"yeah but admit it....if she did that to you as a 17 year old you'd be braggin' about it to this day....17 year old millionaire actor gets blown by 37 year old millionaire actress....personally I remember being 17 and it would have definitely been consensual for me...I have trouble understanding this one given that he kept a loving relationship with her for years until recently...when his money has dried up"

He implies that you or I should have seen it as consensual.

He fails to realize that if you are 17, legally it cannot be consensual sex.

...Jesus Tap Dancing Christ !....YOU "inferred" that "you or I" should have seen it as consensual...he said nothing about how the boy should feel.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...Jesus Tap Dancing Christ !....he "inferred" that "you or I" should have seen it as consensual...he said nothing about how the boy should feel.

If A and B see it this way, C should as well.

 

[yankeesince59]

It happens all the time. Not relevant to the facts of the case, being that she had sex with a minor. Harvey Weinstein's existence has no bearing on this at all.

...can you cite a legal precedent to back up that claim?...no.

...you're talking out of your ass.

 

[yankeesince59]

If A and B see it this way, C should as well.

...geez...again, learn the difference between "implying" and "inferring".

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...can you cite a legal precedent to back up that claim?...no.

...you're talking out of your ass.

Pay me $595 an hour.

 

[riverman]

"yeah but admit it....if she did that to you as a 17 year old you'd be braggin' about it to this day....17 year old millionaire actor gets blown by 37 year old millionaire actress....personally I remember being 17 and it would have definitely been consensual for me...I have trouble understanding this one given that he kept a loving relationship with her for years until recently...when his money has dried up"

He implies that you or I should have seen it as consensual.

He fails to realize that if you are 17, legally it cannot be consensual sex.

Neither of those things are true bro....I don't assume what your opinion is....and I do not fail to realize that 17 is considered a minor in California...I used disclaimers to these facts all through my personal opinions concerning it....why don't you offer your own personal opinions instead of diverting to me or to Weinstein...how exactly do you feel about this particular case? If you're going to take a stand on an issue...you should do that bro...I've said my piece about it.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Neither of those things are true bro....I don't assume what your opinion is....and I do not fail to realize that 17 is considered a minor in California...I used disclaimers to these facts all through my personal opinions concerning it....why don't you offer your own personal opinions instead of diverting to me or to Weinstein...how exactly do you feel about this particular case? If you're going to take a stand on an issue...you should do that bro...I've said my piece about it.

My opinion is that Argento is an evil manipulator and a liar.

 

[yankeesince59]

Pay me $595 an hour.

...lol...that's what I thought.....all bluster, no substance.

 

[yankeesince59]

wow,...."evil manipulator"....because she got drunk and had sex with a boy.

...she won't be tried...because it cannot be proven...and because it was so long ago...and because she was "under the influence"...and because her lawyers can claim she was permanently scarred by Weinstein. The kid can claim "trauma" but Asia cannot claim "trauma" from Weinstein?...how's that work?

...is she a "hypocrite"?...probably, but that's not a crime...kinda like "collusion".



...I too am done with this topic.

 

[riverman]

My opinion is that Argento is an evil manipulator and a liar.

You could very well be right but that doesn't give you a green light to twist my words or stances on the issue....have the conversation...I stated in one of my posts she could very well be evil incarnate.....380,000 bucks is a hell of a manipulation motivator...he should have never taken it according to the laws of California and the fact that he claims trauma from it. Better yet...his parents should have sued the shit out of her and seen her arrested...none of that happened though which begs a few questions

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You could very well be right but that doesn't give you a green light to twist my words or stances on the issue....have the conversation...I stated in one of my posts she could very well be evil incarnate.....380,000 bucks is a hell of a manipulation motivator...he should have never taken it according to the laws of California and the fact that he claims trauma from it. Better yet...his parents should have sued the shit out of her and seen her arrested...none of that happened though which begs a few questions

You were still normalizing the behavior by stating you would love it. No different than me defending Weinstein by stating "girls use the casting couch to make their careers"