OT Asia Argento accused of paying hush money to silence sexual assault allegations

[riverman]

Previous point that you had quoted mentioned that Argento and her victim:

"maintained a friendship. How many rape victims continue to profess love for their rapist?"

Argento and Weinstein dated for several years after. If this is the barometer for whether or not rape happened, then we can infer that Weinstein did not rape Argento.

Argento has no case against Weinstein now...that's been established...I'm sure he's thrilled

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Argento has no case against Weinstein now...that's been established...I'm sure he's thrilled

He was probably behind this.

 

[riverman]

So do you think that the Age of Consent should be lowered?

It is in many places already...and in California, I'd say yes....17 year olds are not that different from 18 year olds in many cases...at 17 I was sexually active...laws can be tricky....oral sex is illegal in many states as is smoking pot or drinking alcohol....weirdly enough when I got back from the war I was too young to buy a beer in San Diego.....I still drank beer....in Europe this definitely would have been a non issue...especially italy

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Bourdain was borderline obsessed with Argento.

Just heard reported on the radio that it was actually Bourdain himself who paid the $380K to Bennett. Love(/obsession) makes people do crazy things...

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

It is in many places already...and in California, I'd say yes....17 year olds are not that different from 18 year olds in many cases...at 17 I was sexually active...laws can be tricky....oral sex is illegal in many states as is smoking pot or drinking alcohol....weirdly enough when I got back from the war I was too young to buy a beer in San Diego.....I still drank beer

and 16 year olds aren't that different than 17 year olds....and....

 

[riverman]

and 16 year olds aren't that different than 17 year olds....and....

actually I wouldn't make that statement at all.....kids mature at very different rates....the age when they should be able to make choices is tricky...17 though for me I felt mature enough to make those choices...at 16...probably not. should you need to be 21 to join the army?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

actually I wouldn't make that statement at all.....kids mature at very different rates....the age when they should be able to make choices is tricky...17 though for me I felt mature enough to make those choices...at 16...probably not. should you need to be 21 to join the army?

He was only 17 for 2 months when it happened

 

[yankeesince59]

Don't believe that for a second. These prominent figureheads at the #MeToo forefront are liars. Bourdain was borderline obsessed with Argento.

...lmao...not surprised...of course you don't believe it because it didn't come from your Twitterverse world.

 

[yankeesince59]

Just heard reported on the radio that it was actually Bourdain himself who paid the $380K to Bennett. Love(/obsession) makes people do crazy things...

...DOH !!!...[Homer Simpson voice]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...lmao...you probably don't believe it because it didn't come from your Twitterverse world.

They are both not credible

 

[riverman]

She's this morning claiming it was a black mail scheme ...never happened and Bourdain paid the kid to make it not mess up her cause with #metoo and Weinstein.....she said he's been harassing her and threatening her and Tony just paid the kid off to stop the tabloid....so...this all could be just gold digging after all...we don't know at this point but Bourdain gave the guy money to stop

 

[yankeesince59]

They are both not credible

...if that's so, then why do you keep citing Twitter?...lol...never mind.

 

[yankeesince59]

She's this morning claiming it was a black mail scheme ...never happened and Bourdain paid the kid to make it not mess up her cause with #metoo and Weinstein.....she said he's been harassing her and threatening her and Tony just paid the kid off to stop the tabloid....so...this all could be just gold digging after all...we don't know at this point but Bourdain gave the guy money to stop

...hmmm....very interesting.

 

[H.C.]

It's not about you.
Therefore looking back at your 17 year old self and saying. 'Well if this happened to me, I wouldn't consider it rape'.
Is completely asinine.
It's not about you. It's not about me.

It's about if this did happen, an Adult performed a sexual act with a minor.
That's the bottom line. Nothing else matters.

But for some reason people in this thread have taken the stance.
'Oh well this boy should be thankful a woman noticed him. I certainly would've been.'
This thought process needs to frankly die.

 

[H.C.]

...the issue in this case is not rape by force or under what situations a male might get a boner, it's about statutory rape.

This is such a moronic out of touch post. But thanks for clearing this up.
Wow such an insightful and well made post.

Jesus christ.

Oh wait, you do know green font on this site means sarcasm?
Wouldn't want to to mistake it again.

Why I ever hit 'show ignored content sometimes'.

 

[riverman]

'Oh well this boy should be thankful a woman noticed him. I certainly would've been.'

This is gross exaggeration of the views posted here....and we'll all die , that's for sure....read the entire conversation or don't but cherry picking and sensationalizing things to make it seem we all are chuckling away at rape or pedophilia is just you trying to avoid the conversation...I've included the possibilities that she may have raped him...she also may not have raped him...maybe add your opinion to the topic and consider what's actually being said here...big difference between I got a scratch on my car and my car was totaled....ignore anybody you like but own it if you address them. Nobody makes you take interest in personal opinions or experiences but yourself....often topics and questions about them contain personal experiences...not being able to have those conversations is what should die..is the kid a victim or a blackmailing liar...is she guilty or innocent....these are questions threads are created for in order to discuss...you can discuss them or be disgusted by them...choices

 

[riverman]

Therefore looking back at your 17 year old self and saying. 'Well if this happened to me, I wouldn't consider it rape'.
Is completely asinine.

this is making it about me...and that's your post...if you don't have a personal experience that relates to the topic...great..you lived a sheltered 17 year old life in HS...some of us didn't. Let's make relating those things taboo so you'll feel better

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

She's this morning claiming it was a black mail scheme ...never happened and Bourdain paid the kid to make it not mess up her cause with #metoo and Weinstein.....she said he's been harassing her and threatening her and Tony just paid the kid off to stop the tabloid....so...this all could be just gold digging after all...we don't know at this point but Bourdain gave the guy money to stop

Nothing says strong independent feminist like blaming the dead millionaire ex-boyfriend you drove to suicide for financially taking care of your past rape allegations and buying a victim's silence.

 

[riverman]

Nothing says strong independent feminist like blaming the dead millionaire ex-boyfriend you drove to suicide for financially taking care of your past rape allegations and buying a victim's silence.

well she said he wasn't a victim and it was blackmail...and Bourdain wrote his own story...he made his own choice like an independent millionaire supporter of feminism would right? Bourdain is not a victim here of anything but his own poor choices if even that was his reason..in the end we don't know what makes someone do that ...if he can kick a heroin addiction he can handle getting dumped by his girlfriend

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

well she said he wasn't a victim and it was blackmail...and Bourdain wrote his own story...he made his own choice like an independent millionaire supporter of feminism would right? Bourdain is not a victim here of anything but his own poor choices if even that was his reason..in the end we don't know what makes someone do that ...if he can kick a heroin addiction he can handle getting dumped by his girlfriend

Of course.

She's the victim here.

The evil man Bourdain mansplained she needed to pay him off.

Always the victim.

 

[riverman]

Of course.

She's the victim here.

The evil man Bourdain mansplained she needed to pay him off.

Always the victim.

we just don't know....Bourdain was never called evil by me...I watched his show many times with the wife....both of us noticed he is a heavy drinker ..when he offed himself my first thought was booze...depression....you though think this girlfriend made him end his life....I don't know that to be true at all but even so should have no bearing on feminism and what those concerns are..I don't think Bourdain is a victim of anything but his own bad choices. Maybe he was mentally ill.....suffering a health condition..or just bored ..shooting pool with a rope...we'll never know but he has his own child...who I think is the victim in his case

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

we just don't know....Bourdain was never called evil by me...I watched his show many times with the wife....both of us noticed he is a heavy drinker ..when he offed himself my first thought was booze...depression....you though think this girlfriend made him end his life....I don't know that to be true at all but even so should have no bearing on feminism and what those concerns are..I don't think Bourdain is a victim of anything but his own bad choices. Maybe he was mentally ill.....suffering a health condition..or just bored ..shooting pool with a rope...we'll never know but he has his own child...who I think is the victim in his case

He did more drugs than booze, especially in the past. Like I said, Argento's cheating with that reporter who covered her for the Cannes film festival drove him to suicide. That prompted several arguments prior to his death. Bourdain, as bold and opinionated as he is, doesn't hold a strong frame, especially when he attached himself to the personification of strong feminism.

He was probably prone to suicide, but the Argento cheating, being printed in the local newspaper for all to see was probably the thing that pushed him over the edge.

 

[Chris Craig]

He did more drugs than booze, especially in the past. Like I said, Argento's cheating with that reporter who covered her for the Cannes film festival drove him to suicide. That prompted several arguments prior to his death. Bourdain, as bold and opinionated as he is, doesn't hold a strong frame, especially when he attached himself to the personification of strong feminism.

He was probably prone to suicide, but the Argento cheating, being printed in the local newspaper for all to see was probably the thing that pushed him over the edge.

Her cheating doesn't seem like it would be enough to make him kill himself, but that with the fact that he covered up her rape of a 17 year old (if that is what happened), along with his predilection for booze and drugs, having driven him into a deep depression, seems like it would have done the trick. It makes sense.

But, these are assumptions. We can't truly know. If she did have sexual relations with Jimmy B while he was 17, and in the state of California, then she commited statuary rape. Regardless of if Jimmy's career died and he needed money, and used a card he had been keeping in his pocket. She is guility and paid him off because of it.

It is possible it never happened and Jimmy's career died and he became desperate and made a false claim against Argento to blackmail her. He did sue his parents for money as well. That Bourdain saw that such a claim even being false, would destroy Argento, her career, and maybe his reputation. Though it makes more sense that it happened, again these are assumptions. We probably will never know for sure.

 

[Natebishop3]

Frankly I don't care about all of the details.

If she slept with the kid when he was 17, she broke the law and she should be punished.

If she didn't sleep with the kid and he has been blackmailing, he broke the law and he should be punished.

Very cut and dry for me.

 

[Lanny]

I don't think it's fair to say this discussion has made light of rape...in my case it's questioned the circumstances...to discuss this issue and be sensitive to the possibilities it's important to point out the extenuating circumstances of the age of the young man and the relationship he had with her....make no mistake...she's guilty of breaking the statutory rape law of California...the drunk cougar doesn't get a pass but rape victims taking large sums of hush money raise questions...I see nothing wrong with addressing those points...if anyone is offended by my personal recollections...that's on them but as I've said...when I read the story I tried to put myself in this guy's shoes at that age and certain things didn't add up to non consensual rape....even with the law as it stands...this case is not your standard no means no rape case from what I've read and if it was....why take the buyout and still have a positive relationship with the lady? Where were the parents? This kid was wealthy and had access to top notch legal council...these topics are fair game for discussion....I'll say one thing...I now do not believe that Asia is credible to speak for the #metoo movement..in fact, she's just boosted Weinstein's defense case.maybe the guy is traumatized for all these years and she killed his career...I'm as open to that being a reality as I am to him this long after the fact taking her to task when the money ran out....as to Bourdain...he took the coward's path in my view...I don't buy that this actress ruined his life...he had options...if anything, alcohol and depression ruined his life...

People under the age of 25 do not have fully formed brains. They make mistakes because they are young and confused.

That being said, it's vey hard for me to imagine myself at 17 having sex with a reasonably attractive older woman and not getting a lifetime of good memories out of it. When I was in my teens, a lady popped my cherry right before I went to war. She didn't want me to die without having done that. I was really too young to know what I was doing. Did I wind up with bad or good memories of that? What do you think? Yep, good memories.

All this means that it's hard for me to put myself in the youngster's position but if it were me, I'd have enjoyed it immensely.

 

[Lanny]

Frankly I don't care about all of the details.

If she slept with the kid when he was 17, she broke the law and she should be punished.

If she didn't sleep with the kid and he has been blackmailing, he broke the law and he should be punished.

Very cut and dry for me.

What law would she be punished under? There's no law that would punish her after this amount of time. All he can do is expose her to the public.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

http://www.tmz.com/2018/08/22/asia-argento-17-year-old-boy-in-bed-photo-sex-texts/

Asia Argento says she did not have sex with then 17-year-old Jimmy Bennett, but a photo and various text messages between Argento and a friend tell a very different story ... she flat-out says she had sex with him.

This is one of 4 photos Bennett, now 22, took in a Marina del Rey hotel room back in 2013. The then 37-year-old Argento and Bennett are on a bed shirtless, their heads on a pillow and their arms entangled. Sources tell TMZ the pic was taken after the 2 had intercourse. It's a crime in California for an adult to have sex with a person under 18.

Bennett later threatened legal action and, in April, Argento settled with him for $380,000 ... which her boyfriend, Anthony Bourdain, paid.
Argento released a statement Tuesday, saying, "I have never had any sexual relationship with Bennett."

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

What law would she be punished under? There's no law that would punish her after this amount of time. All he can do is expose her to the public.

Statute of limitations for rape is 10 years. This happened in 2013

 

[DaLincolnJones]

What law would she be punished under? There's no law that would punish her after this amount of time. All he can do is expose her to the public.

expose her? Heck, Cows already out of the barn on that deal

 

[MARIS61]

Clear why AB offed himself, if he wasn't murdered by the gold digger.