Attn: Basketball Nerds: RE Nate Mac

[OddEnormous]

Did he ever win a playoff series as a player?

BTW here's where he finished in the standings each year as a coach

5th
4th
5th
5th
1st
5th
3rd
3rd
1st
4th (projected)

That is DIVISION not conf.

STELLAR! The franchise is in incredible hands.

At least we play exciting basketball though right?


EDIT: he was on the Sonics finals team right? (I think)


EDIT 2:

1987 -- defeated Dallas, 3-1, first round
defeated Houston, 4-2, conference semifinals
lost to LA Lakers, 4-0, conference finals

1989 -- defeated Houston, 3-1, first round
lost to LA Lakers, 4-0, conference semifinals

No longer main starter:

1992 -- defeated Golden State, 3-1, first round
lost to Utah, 4-1, conference semifinals

1993 -- defeated Utah, 3-2, first round
defeated Houston, 4-3, conference semifinals
lost to Phoenix, 4-3, conference finals

1996 -- defeated Sacramento, 3-1, first round
defeated Houston, 4-0, conference semifinals
defeated Utah, 4-3, conference finals
lost to Chicago, 4-2, NBA Finals

1998 -- defeated Minnesota, 3-2, first round
lost to LA Lakers, 4-1, conference semifinals


So as a starter, never got past the first round of the playoffs

And after 10 years of coaching... 10 YEARS I think the very best you can give NM as a coach is an incomplete.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Michael Jordan is the best basketball player to ever play the game ... ergo he must be a phenomenal front office person.

 

[OddEnormous]

Michael Jordan is the best basketball player to ever play the game ... ergo he must be a phenomenal front office person.

What?

 

[RR7]

wtf is going on here?

Well, anyways, yes, he has one a playoff series as a player.

 

[Nikolokolus]

What?

Well you appear to be making the argument that the Blazers are in great hands because Nate was a great player ...

EDIT: it appears you went back and added stuff to your oginal post to clarify, your first run wasn't very clear

 

[OddEnormous]

wtf is going on here?

Not sure. Something about Michael Jordan being a good player or something.

 

[OddEnormous]

Well you appear to be making the argument that the Blazers are in great hands because Nate was a great player ...

Actually, was making the opposite point

(Well, trying to)



I think every year under him is a waste.

He's coached 10 years now. Wonder what grade people would give him on his coaching career.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Actually, was making the opposite point

(Well, trying to)



I think every year under him is a waste.

He's coached 10 years now. Wonder what grade people would give him on his coaching career.

In that case I'd have to say a 'C' maybe a C+ because he appears capable of getting guys to play hard for him, but when it comes time to lead them to something greater than overachievement, I'm not so sure he's got the raw talent in Xs and Os and in game management to best guys like Phil, Adelman, etc.

 

[e_blazer]

Man, I wonder how Jeff van Gundy managed to take the Knicks to the Finals in 99. Dude never even played in the NBA and we all know that coaching ability is dependent upon how far your teams went in the NBA playoffs.

 

[OddEnormous]

Man, I wonder how Jeff van Gundy managed to take the Knicks to the Finals in 99. Dude never even played in the NBA and we all know that coaching ability is dependent upon how far your teams went in the NBA playoffs.

My point was never that he was a good or bad player. Was just wondering if he's ever won a playoff series.

He has won a few as a starter.

NONE in 10 years as a coach. I'd wouldn't mind him as a point guard to be honest.

 

[OddEnormous]

In that case I'd have to say a 'C' maybe a C+ because he appears capable of getting guys to play hard for him, but when it comes time to lead them to something greater than overachievement, I'm not so sure he's got the raw talent in Xs and Os and in game management to best guys like Phil, Adelman, etc.

C is probably the best you could give him.

No idea how this guy has the rep of one of the best young coaches in the game. He's literally done nothing in 10 years.

 

[RR7]

NONE in 10 years as a coach.

Wrong. He has one a playoff series as a coach. And has improved the team's record each year he has been with the Blazers.

 

[e_blazer]

Really don't get the whole Nate Hate thing, but I guess everybody's entitled to their opinions.

This must be a frustrating year for you Nate Haters. If the team had stayed healthy and finished 8th in the Conference, he'd probably get dumped. As it is, the team is generally recognized as having overachieved yet again despite his "poor coaching". No way he gets the axe after this season.

 

[OddEnormous]

Wrong. He has one a playoff series as a coach. And has improved the team's record each year he has been with the Blazers.

WON not one

 

[OddEnormous]

despite all evidence to the contrary.

Oh dear....

5th
4th
5th
5th
1st
5th
3rd
3rd
1st
4th (projected)

 

[RR7]

WON not one

sorry, was thining of the ONE he WON. Fucking grammar police because you were wrong again? Nice premise though. You start with mocking him having never won a playoff series, and then were shown you were wrong. Might as well shift to a grammatical mistake to save face.

 

[Nate4786]

Have you even taken a look at the teams he's coached? He's helped re-build two different franchises from scratch, and done a tremendous job at that. Until Nate starts doing nothing with a healthy roster then you really have no argument or justification to bash him.

 

[noknobs]

Has he not improved the team every year he's been here? Is he not on the Olympic team? Is his name not being mentioned for COY?

Now try to figure out why...

 

[OddEnormous]

Now try to figure out why...

I don't have the foggiest idea why.

he's never done anything except somehow make basketball the most excruciating sport I've ever watched.

 

[OddEnormous]

sorry, was thining of the ONE he WON. Fucking grammar police because you were wrong again? Nice premise though. You start with mocking him having never won a playoff series, and then were shown you were wrong. Might as well shift to a grammatical mistake to save face.

I agree. I was wrong. He's one, won series in 10 years.

Is that a coach you'd hire right now if we were in need? A guy with 1 playoff series victory in 10 years?

 

[RR7]

If I looked at a stat with absolutely no context like you are, then I suppose there is the possibility I would not hire him. But I understand you have to look at the whole picture. Fair enough, you don't like Nate. Sorry.

 

[OddEnormous]

If I looked at a stat with absolutely no context like you are, then I suppose there is the possibility I would not hire him.

So why would you hire a guy (in any context) who had 1 playoff series victory in 10 years?

What are some of the things that a guy could do to be hired by you to coach your NBA team whose teams avg. finishing 3.5 place in DIVISION?

 

[noknobs]

I don't have the foggiest idea why.

he's never done anything except somehow make basketball the most excruciating sport I've ever watched.

I'm sorry winning is so traumatizing for you. Maybe you should watch the Nets instead, could be more fun.

 

[OddEnormous]

I'm sorry winning

What have we won?

 

[noknobs]

What have we won?

Games. We've won more games. Hope that helps.

 

[OddEnormous]

Games. We've won more games. Hope that helps.

Regular season NBA games? We've done that under a lot of coaches.

We've fired coaches who took us to western Conf finals before.


Sorry, that actually doesn't help.

 

[noknobs]

Regular season NBA games? We've done that under a lot of coaches.

We've fired coaches who took us to western Conf finals before.


Sorry, that actually doesn't help.

Then I think we need to look at the possibility that you're simply beyond help. Do you think Phil (and feel free to substitute any coach here, if you're too stupid to understand the point I'm making...) would have won us a championship during the same timeframe? No, Phil only goes to teams already on the brink of a championship. Nate did quite the opposite.

I have a feeling I'll be reading about you on the Darwin Awards in the not-to-distant future.

 

[OddEnormous]

Then I think we need to look at the possibility that you're simply beyond help. Do you think Phil would have won us a championship during the same timeframe? No, Phil only goes to teams already on the brink of a championship. Nate did quite the opposite.

I have a feeling I'll be reading about you on the Darwin Awards in the not-to-distant future.

"You're stupid!!!!!"

What does Phil Jackson have to do with this? I'm talking about Nate McMillan.

 

[BBert]

I would definitely consider hiring Nate to coach a young, rebuilding project. He seems pretty good at it. I think he'd make a fine college coach. I wonder if Phil Knight could convince him to take over the Ducks?

I would not consider hiring Nate to take over an NBA team on the cusp of taking that next step into playoff relevance, since he has not yet shown he's good at it.

Since Nate is currently the coach of a team that is on the cusp of taking that next step into playoff relevance, and since he's been the coach this season of an injury decimated team that has apparently overachieved (again), I think there is little chance that he will be replaced before he gets one or two more chances to show what he can do in the playoffs.

Since there's nothing I can do about it one way or the other, I'll just sit back and watch. And drink heavily.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I would definitely consider hiring Nate to coach a young, rebuilding project. He seems pretty good at it. I think he'd make a fine college coach. I wonder if Phil Knight could convince him to take over the Ducks?

I would not consider hiring Nate to take over an NBA team on the cusp of taking that next step into playoff relevance, since he has not yet shown he's good at it.

Since Nate is currently the coach of a team that is on the cusp of taking that next step into playoff relevance, and since he's been the coach this season of an injury decimated team that has apparently overachieved (again), I think there is little chance that he will be replaced before he gets one or two more chances to show what he can do in the playoffs.

Since there's nothing I can do about it one way or the other, I'll just sit back and watch. And drink heavily.

Couldn't agree more ... especially with the 'drink heavily' part