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illmatic99

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That was a disgusting display, even for him.

Dude is a lost cause, right?

He's still on the books next yr as well. I guess trading him is not even a possibility right now. I wouldn't be upset with a buyout at this point.
 
I'd be surprised if the Blazers find any trade option for him that doesn't have Portland adding incentive. I doubt that will change when Ayton has an expiring contract
 
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illmatic99 said:
That was a disgusting display, even for him.

Dude is a lost cause, right?

He's still on the books next yr as well. I guess trading him is not even a possibility right now. I wouldn't be upset with a buyout at this point.
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I want him gone as well, however given Clingan's injury issues it might be good to keep him this yr and trade Timelord? We won't get anything for him and he's a body, and given his play good for the tank, obviously as long as his attitude is not detrimental for the team.
 
Blazinaway said:
I want him gone as well, however given Clingan's injury issues it might be good to keep him this yr and trade Timelord?
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sure....if the Blazers were wanting to win games. Otherwise, there's not much reason to keep either one. Pick up a big body when the 10-day contract window opens. And if they waived Ayton they are still 3M below the tax line and could sign a current free agent to C a vet minimum deal

some current C free agents (according to ReaGM):

Omer Yurtseven
Olivier Sarr
Jahlil Okafor
Boban Marjanovic
Trey Jemison
Moses Brown
Ibou Badji
JaVale McGee
Robin Lopez
Thon Maker
Skal Labissiere
Frank Kaminsky

won't be hard to find big bodies. Bringing back Lopez would be fun
 
Natebishop3 said:
Cut him. Eat the salary.

If someone will take him without us having to include an asset, do it, otherwise just dump him.
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A trade would be preferable just to retain the salary slot. But yes, we can't be giving away assets to dump players who we can be waived instead.
 
If they could have gotten ANYTHING for him in the off-season after his good play in the last half, they should have. Most likely it would have been a few seconds, but they should have done that. This situation was entirely predictable and the organization is delusional to the point of malpractice.
 
B-Roy said:
If they could have gotten ANYTHING for him in the off-season after his good play in the last half, they should have. Most likely it would have been a few seconds, but they should have done that. This situation was entirely predictable and the organization is delusional to the point of malpractice.
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Cronin has been pitiful in managing assets and has historically waited too long to move them. This is a pattern.
 
illmatic99 said:
Cronin has been pitiful in managing assets and has historically waited too long to move them. This is a pattern.
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Also this FO will never admit they made a mistake. Buying out Ayton should absolutely be an option. I'm sure we could save ~1-2 million since a team would definitely pick him up on a minimum.

But that would:

1.) Be akin to the FO admitting a mistake. God forbid.
2.) I guess Ayton contributes to the tank.

Keeping his salary slot would be useful in theory. But I can't see how any team would trade for Ayton without the Blazers adding some significant capital, which they have no business doing. There are centers in the G League that deserve a look more than Ayton.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'd be surprised if the Blazers find any trade option for him that doesn't have Portland adding incentive. I doubt that will change when Ayton has an expiring contract
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I think Portland could easily trade him for expiring contracts, but they would be for players that are basically worthless, so there wouldn't be much point.

But I could see a contending team, with a couple of worthless expiring contracts, giving us a protected 1st for him.

Like when the Blazers had that 1 good run when they made the WCF, Kanter was great as a bench piece. I can see a team wanting Ayton in their rotation.
 
Ayton Options, Chauncey Rumblings... what's next? Shaedon Shitstorm?
 
Strange guy imho. So many physical strengths but mental toughness aint there. Get him a team of sport/performance shrinks to work on his thinker. Barring that just deal with it. Nobody is taking him and it would cost too much to cut.
 
I wonder if Chicago would be interested in Ayton if they can trade Vucevic?
 
I still maintain that gambling on a talented, young, former #1 pick was the right thing to do for a rebuilding team like the Blazers. Especially at what we gave up. Let's just say we got lucky with Toumani who has turned out to be a foundational piece going forward.
 
DNP-CD for 12 months and get value next trade deadline as an expiring. Guy clearly doesn’t want to play, respect his choice.
 
Ayton isn't used very well at all in the Blazer "offense", what there is of it.

He's shooting .598 on 2-pointers and if it weren't for his 3-point attempts, would have the highest TS% on the team (other than Robert Williams).

Ayton's got nimble feet for a guy his size, he's a huge guy, and it's a shame Billups can't make better use of Ayton's mobility.

For me, Ayton seems like a big opportunity lost. He's not Nurkic. He can run. What happened? A moving center the size of Ayton can be a problem for the defense.

Are the Blazer coaching staff and players so inept at designing and throwing passes to a moving big man?

To me it looks like none of them give a shit.

 
blazerfan11 said:
Ayton isn't used very well at all in the Blazer "offense", what there is of it.

He's shooting .598 on 2-pointers and if it weren't for his 3-point attempts, would have the highest TS% on the team (other than Robert Williams).

Ayton's got nimble feet for a guy his size, he's a huge guy, and it's a shame Billups can't make better use of Ayton's mobility.

For me, Ayton seems like a big opportunity lost. He's not Nurkic. He can run. What happened? A moving center the size of Ayton can be a problem for the defense.

Are the Blazer coaching staff and players so inept at designing and throwing passes to a moving big man?

To me it looks like none of them give a shit.

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Good point. This coaching staff isn't doing anyone any favors with this offense.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Ayton isn't used very well at all in the Blazer "offense", what there is of it.

He's shooting .598 on 2-pointers and if it weren't for his 3-point attempts, would have the highest TS% on the team (other than Robert Williams).

Ayton's got nimble feet for a guy his size, he's a huge guy, and it's a shame Billups can't make better use of Ayton's mobility.

For me, Ayton seems like a big opportunity lost. He's not Nurkic. He can run. What happened? A moving center the size of Ayton can be a problem for the defense.

Are the Blazer coaching staff and players so inept at designing and throwing passes to a moving big man?

To me it looks like none of them give a shit.

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i haven't seen him either pick or roll as hard as he did in those clips ever in a blazer uniform.
 
Strategically it's probably best to wait until next season to consider a buyout just to leave open trade possibilities.

Not that another team wants him as a player, but perhaps we can get a pick for taking on a longer contract.

Yes we have Simons deal to match salary also expiring, so I wouldn't be too upset if Ayton did get a buyout. Yes he's one of my least favorite NBA players to watch.
 
I don't have any problem with Ayton other than he and Ant stunk up the joint and both had off nights last game...that happens..other than that I think Ayton has been solid and a double double machine. He seems to me to be a pretty unselfish player for a former first round pick. The guy is still young. I don't think we have great coaching but he seems like a good teammate so far..
 
Phatguysrule said:
I wouldn't be at all disappointed if we kept Ayton.

What is there to be excited about right now if you're Ayton?
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Granted... I prefer we trade him for a first round pick. But if that's not available, sure. Keep him around.
 
riverman said:
I don't have any problem with Ayton other than he and Ant stunk up the joint and both had off nights last game...that happens..other than that I think Ayton has been solid and a double double machine. He seems to me to be a pretty unselfish player for a former first round pick. The guy is still young. I don't think we have great coaching but he seems like a good teammate so far..
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Is there a single Blazer you don't like?
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Is there a single Blazer you don't like?
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sure...and you should know ...take a guess which Blazer I've wanted gone for 4 years now? Hint, his name rhymes with Rant! The other Blazer I want gone's name rhymes with Bauncey
 
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blazerfan11 said:
Ayton isn't used very well at all in the Blazer "offense", what there is of it.

He's shooting .598 on 2-pointers and if it weren't for his 3-point attempts, would have the highest TS% on the team (other than Robert Williams).

Ayton's got nimble feet for a guy his size, he's a huge guy, and it's a shame Billups can't make better use of Ayton's mobility.

For me, Ayton seems like a big opportunity lost. He's not Nurkic. He can run. What happened? A moving center the size of Ayton can be a problem for the defense.

Are the Blazer coaching staff and players so inept at designing and throwing passes to a moving big man?

To me it looks like none of them give a shit.

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Well, it'd be hard to argue this coaching staff doesn't have a laundry list of problems all its own. I still think this team can lose better with someone other than Chauncey who'd be teaching and developing good, winning habits. I watch Chauncey's approach and I have no idea what he's trying to implement.
 
Phatguysrule said:
What is there to be excited about right now if you're Ayton?
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The chance to be the focal point of the offense if he were to actually make an effort. If he wanted to make himself an all star and improve his next contract, he has the perfect situation to stat-chase without having to worry about winning.
 
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