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If we're offloading a bunch of salary in a Dame trade, Ayton wouldn't be a terrible player to spend it on. 25 years old is still plenty young enough to be part of a rebuild. Good rebounder. Dunks the ball more than twice as often as Nurk does.
 
This is who I've been hoping for in a deal. An upgrade at a position of need. His salary is big, but the Blazers will likely only have one other big salary after this trade, so it's not likely to be any kind of hinderance. They've got quite a few years of rookie salaries left which make his easier to swallow too. Still room to grow as well. I'm all in for Ayton. If they can get him, all they need now is a SF and a couple of years of seasoning.
 
Sure, I would do this

Portland gets: Ayton, JJjr, Jovic, and Lowry
Phoenix gets: Herro
Miami gets Dame and Nurk
 
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I'm good with bringing in Ayton; however I don't want us giving up multiple picks or such to do it.

He's a tad overpaid but its really not relevant with the Blazers right now as were not going to sign free agents, were dumping Dame's supermax contract, and we won't have any Sharpe/Scoot extensions kick in for many years.

Ayton contract is totally fine when you start looking at all the long $200+ million deals handed out two months ago.
 
Phoenix wants to contend...they won't be contending very well with a Drew Eubanks/Bol Bol big man rotation. That's all they would have, and that's not going to cut it against Jokic, or Memphis with JJJ and Adams, Minny with KAT and Gobert, Lakers with AD and Wood.

I'd think at the very least the Suns would want Nurkic. Of course that really kinds of bollixes salary matching for Miami and Phoenix
 
Phoenix wants to contend...they won't be contending very well with a Drew Eubanks/Bol Bol big man rotation. That's all they would have, and that's not going to cut it against Jokic, or Memphis with JJJ and Adams, Minny with KAT and Gobert, Lakers with AD and Wood.

I'd think at the very least the Suns would want Nurkic. Of course that really kinds of bollixes salary matching for Miami and Phoenix
They're so deep in luxury tax they may prefer an expiring and pick to Nurk.

I was going to send a rotational/bench player to Phoenix but salaries are difficult to balance.
 
Ayton makes sense with Lillard

Without Lillard it’s a little weird.
 
I'm good with bringing in Ayton; however I don't want us giving up multiple picks or such to do it.

He's a tad overpaid but its really not relevant with the Blazers right now as were not going to sign free agents, were dumping Dame's supermax contract, and we won't have any Sharpe/Scoot extensions kick in for many years.

Ayton contract is totally fine when you start looking at all the long $200+ million deals handed out two months ago.
I wasn’t on board with Ayton ever. But if there were any time to take a chance on him, it’d be now.

I agree, I would not want him if it came at the cost of picks. I would still demand ‘24, ‘28, ‘30 unprotected and swaps in ‘27 and ‘29.

A straight swap where we get Ayton for Herro would be what I’d agree to.
 
Hmm maybe it will be something like this;

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I would still really expect that ‘24 1st. What I hate most is Riley getting him for 2 1sts is that the Heat get their way.

But that’s a pretty good package all things considered. I wish the Heat had picked someone who was a better fit for the team than Jaquez, but I would be excited about Jovic.
 
I wasn’t on board with Ayton ever. But if there were any time to take a chance on him, it’d be now.

I agree, I would not want him if it came at the cost of picks. I would still demand ‘24, ‘28, ‘30 unprotected and swaps in ‘27 and ‘29.

A straight swap where we get Ayton for Herro would be what I’d agree to.

If that was possible, Miami would trade Herro for Ayton cutting Portland out.
 
I like Ayton and Scoot could get the best out of him. Totally underrated. Very skilled. Our future would look brought between him Scoot, Shae, and Ant (or what you get for him).
Scoot can but Chris Paul couldn't? Ayton's performance is up to him and his attitude.

Would rather be worse this year and end up with a pick high enough to get Alexandre Sarr or another top-level prospect. Much higher upside for the future.
 
Not gonna happen. Ayton is good and tall. That's not what we do here. Also, it would make me happy and the universe has decided that's just not a thing anymore.
 
Scoot can but Chris Paul couldn't? Ayton's performance is up to him and his attitude.

Would rather be worse this year and end up with a pick high enough to get Alexandre Sarr or another top-level prospect. Much higher upside for the future.
Not sure what the next draft has to do with Ayton. I don't think Ayton is going to lead teenagers to the playoffs or anything. We will lose plenty next season even with Ayton.

I'd imagine the idea with Ayton here is to have the center position not be a complete disaster which is bad for Scoot/Sharpe development. Then in a few years hopefully we've added some pieces to make a run at winning while Ayton is still in his prime.
 
If Ayton is in the trade it doesn't make sense to have Herro go there - Suns already have Booker and Beal. They need bigs, defense, depth, and cost savings.

I can see where Herro makes sense going to the Hornets - but they don't really have the pieces the Suns would need. So might need a 5th team involved.
 
I don't think Herro is enough. Or we could probably swap Simons for Ayton.
I would rather keep Simons if that's the case. It goes back to my original point about Ayton. Was completely against it (especially when people here were mentioning trading Ant for him), then came around to it when I saw how crap a Miami deal would be. I'm back to not wanting Ayton if it's going to take Ant, thanks.
 
Yeah I think if Ayton is coming to Portland it has to be a 4 or 5 team deal because Phoenix doesn't need Herro. Here is an idea;

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