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SlyPokerDog said:
After he has removed the files that he wants to keep from the drive he should go to the drive's manufacturers website and download their software for testing and reformatting the drive. If the drive checks out he should reformat it, test it again and if that time it checks out he can use it for a second drive or internal backup.
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Naw Sly! when a drive is questionable, you best get your stuff off while you can, and junk the bugger. When the heads don't fly right, they won't read very long.
 
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MarAzul said:
Naw Sly! when a drive is questionable, you best get your stuff off while you can, and junk the bugger. When the heads don't fly right, they won't read very long.
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The files could be crunched but that might not mean the physical drive is damaged. That's why I said use the latest diagnostic software from the drives manufacturer. I've seen computer companies use the formatting software that comes with Windows instead of the formatting that comes with the drive. That can leave the data on the drive unstable but the physical drive itself fine. Test.Reformat.Test Again. After you do that then make the decision if you want to continue to use the drive.
 
When I plug in the old drive, my PC finds it and it shows the files/folders but then says "not responding".
Damn!
 
I dont have an extra data cable, so I used the cable from my CD/DVD drive. Unplugged from cd/DVD drive and into old hard drive, left the other end of the cable in same spot. That OK?
I can feel the drive working when I plug in the power cable. It doesnt make any crazy noises.
The new hard drive is louder than the old one, but probably because I have the case opened up on both sides.
 
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BoBoBREWSKI said:
I dont have an extra data cable, so I used the cable from my CD/DVD drive. Unplugged from cd/DVD drive and into old hard drive, left the other end of the cable in same spot. That OK?
I can feel the drive working when I plug in the power cable. It doesnt make any crazy noises.
The new hard drive is louder than the old one, but probably because I have the case opened up on both sides.
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Are you doing this with the computer on?

Have you rebooted the computer since you replaced the DVD with the hard drive?

Is the BIOS reading the hard drive?

Who makes the hard drive?

Are there any naked pictures of your wife or Mrs HCP on your old drive?
 
Yes
Yes, but it stayed on the "shutting down" screen so I manually turned it off after waiting 5 min. Haven't tried restarting with old drive plugged in. When old drive is plugged in, it seems to make everything that looks for drives to "not responding". I tried finding the drive with Security Essentials to see if I could scan it & it stuck at "not responding". Same with the program (demo) that Denny suggested.
I don't know. ????
Seagate
Yes. No :cheers:
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Yes
Yes, but it stayed on the "shutting down" screen so I manually turned it off after waiting 5 min. Haven't tried restarting with old drive plugged in. When old drive is plugged in, it seems to make everything that looks for drives to "not responding". I tried finding the drive with Security Essentials to see if I could scan it & it stuck at "not responding". Same with the program (demo) that Denny suggested.
I don't know. ????
Seagate
Yes. No :cheers:
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If you try swapping the DVD drive with the hard drive will the computer is running the computer won't know that it has the hard drive installed, it will think it's still the DVD is installed. ALSO YOU CAN SHORT OUT YOUR COMPUTER SWAPPING HARDWARE WITH THE POWER ON. Don't do that anymore.

Do you know how to get into your BIOS? Do you know what the BIOS is? You normally do it by hitting the F10 or the ESC key when you first turn on the computer. It will briefly flash on the screen how to do it.

Once you're in the BIOS there will be a section for the Hard Drives and DVD stuff. Make sure that is reading the names of your 2 hard drives.

Can you describe the nude pictures of your wife to me. In full detail, it will help determine how much more I really want to help you.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
If you try swapping the DVD drive with the hard drive will the computer is running the computer won't know that it has the hard drive installed, it will think it's still the DVD is installed. ALSO YOU CAN SHORT OUT YOUR COMPUTER SWAPPING HARDWARE WITH THE POWER ON. Don't do that anymore.

Do you know how to get into your BIOS? Do you know what the BIOS is? You normally do it by hitting the F10 or the ESC key when you first turn on the computer. It will briefly flash on the screen how to do it.

Once you're in the BIOS there will be a section for the Hard Drives and DVD stuff. Make sure that is reading the names of your 2 hard drives.

Can you describe the nude pictures of your wife to me. In full detail, it will help determine how much more I really want to help you.
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He could do it as Hoojacks suggested.

Here's a link to How to Get Data Off an Old Hard Drive (Without Putting It in a PC)
http://www.howtogeek.com/182452/how-to-get-data-off-an-old-hard-drive-without-putting-it-in-a-pc/
 
Don't listen to SPD. Your drive is fucked. Only way to recover the data is to pay $1000 to a recovery company. You can try freezing it as a last resort, but the drive is fucked.

You need to mirror the drive but like I said it will hit that bad sector and freeze up
 
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When I boot with old hard drive plugged in, I get the same long message I posted earlier and its now "checking file system on D: the type of the file system is NTFS volume label is win7 one of your disks needs to be checked for consistency" Now its doing the long scan/check.
I tried getting to BIOS maybe didnt hit TAB in time and got the above message.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Don't listen to SPD. Your drive is fucked. Only way to recover the data is to pay $1000 to a recovery company. You can try freezing it as a last resort, but the drive is fucked.
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Fix My Dead PC (local) has been recommended for me to check out if needed. Prices dont seem too bad. I've got years and years worth of pics that are priceless.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Fix My Dead PC (local) has been recommended for me to check out if needed. Prices dont seem too bad. I've got years and years worth of pics that are priceless.
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Chances are if they are recovered they won't be in order or they will lose their file names. At least when I went through this at work.

hoop fam
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
When I boot with old hard drive plugged in, I get the same long message I posted earlier and its now "checking file system on D: the type of the file system is NTFS volume label is win7 one of your disks needs to be checked for consistency" Now its doing the long scan/check.
I tried getting to BIOS maybe didnt hit TAB in time and got the above message.
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Press F2 or F8 as soon as you turn your computer on to access the BIOS screen.
 
Why does it boot up fine without the old hard drive plugged in... but wont when it is? Doesnt the PC know to boot from the new hard drive and ignore the old/bad one?
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Don't listen to SPD. Your drive is fucked. Only way to recover the data is to pay $1000 to a recovery company. You can try freezing it as a last resort, but the drive is fucked.

You need to mirror the drive but like I said it will hit that bad sector and freeze up
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Every repair place uses the same software by OnTrack. Most of the major hard drive manufacturers use a propitiatory version of it for their drives. Like I've said, get the software from the hard drive manufacturer and diagnose exactly what is wrong. From there you can figure out what to do and how fucked you are. It could be a bad sector(s) which with the right software the drive will stop seeking those sectors and you can recover everything but anything written on those sectors. You can get the professional version off of Piratebay but I don't think Bobo knows about Key Gens and software cracks.

http://www.krollontrack.com/
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Why does it boot up fine without the old hard drive plugged in... but wont when it is? Doesnt the PC know to boot from the new hard drive and ignore the old/bad one?
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If your BIOS is set to auto scan every time you plug in the old drive the BIOS puts that one as the primary drive and your new drive as the secondary drive. You need to go into the BIOS and make sure the Boot order is set to boot from the new drive first.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
If your BIOS is set to auto scan every time you plug in the old drive the BIOS puts that one as the primary drive and your new drive as the secondary drive. You need to go into the BIOS and make sure the Boot order is set to boot from the new drive first.
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Any details on how to change this? I'm in the BIOS and I dont see anything about auto scan.
When it boots with the new drive in, the 1st Boot Device [SATA:PM-WDC WD2002] is the new drive, correct?
It doesnt seem to let me get to BIOS with old and new drive both plugged in.
 
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BoBoBREWSKI said:
Any details on how to change this? I'm in the BIOS and I dont see anything about auto scan.
When it boots with the new drive in, the 1st Boot Device [SATA:PM-WDC WD2002] is the new drive, correct?
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Is the old drive in also?

Make sure the old drive is listed as the 2nd Boot Device.
 
When the old drive is in, I cant get to the BIOS to do that. Can I plug it in while in BIOS?
 
In BIOS, without the old drive plugged in.
Boot Device Priority
1st [SATA :PM-WDC WD2002]
2nd [ATAPI CD-ROM]
3rd [Removable Dev.]
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
When the old drive is in, I cant get to the BIOS to do that. Can I plug it in while in BIOS?
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NO! Do not do that! You can try turning off the Smart Drive setting in the BIOS when the old drive is out and then plugging the old drive back in but you've got to be careful when playing around with BIOS settings. You should probably stop.
 
I disabled the 2nd option because I am using the CD rom data cable for old hard drive and that still didnt work.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
In BIOS, without the old drive plugged in.
Boot Device Priority
1st [SATA :PM-WDC WD2002]
2nd [ATAPI CD-ROM]
3rd [Removable Dev.]
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I'm sure you are but I have to ask, are you plugging in the data cable and the power cable to the old drive?
 
SHIT! Why is it so damn hard to make it ignore the old drive at start up!!!!
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Why does it boot up fine without the old hard drive plugged in... but wont when it is? Doesnt the PC know to boot from the new hard drive and ignore the old/bad one?
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Even though you are booting from a different drive, all drives will be check for consistency
When it finds and error on that bum drive you get a short time option to respond no to a scan of the drive which likely won't work.

Get the drive out of there and use a USB external drive kit and see if you can save what you want
by plugging it into a USB port after you get the system booted up.
 
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