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Rick2583

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Miller going on the 15 day DL with forearm stiffness.
 
...kinda explains why Joe did things the way he did today.
 
Well hopefully rest takes care of it and it doesn't turn into a longer ordeal
 
.....it just does not stop. The negatives, that is.
 
Yankees aren't the only ones. You just have to deal with it.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...kinda explains why Joe did things the way he did today.
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But it doesn't explain why he wasted him yesterday or why with tomorrow being an off day he didn't use Betances today. Sometimes I just don't understand his decisions.
 
What happened last night I think is he got worried about what happened Friday night. Can't do that.
 
time to invest in pompom holders.....

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Rick2583 said:
But it doesn't explain why he wasted him yesterday or why with tomorrow being an off day he didn't use Betances today. Sometimes I just don't understand his decisions.
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I agree -

But I didn't mind seeing Lindgren come in the 8th to face Harper with a two run lead.
He did get Harper but left too many pitches up and away to the RH batter who did a good job punching it over the RF fence.

Tough fukn loss.

Back to 2/3 mode starting Friday.
 
Rick2583 said:
But it doesn't explain why he wasted him yesterday or why with tomorrow being an off day he didn't use Betances today. Sometimes I just don't understand his decisions.
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...rick, like I've said, we simply don't know everything that we think we know...as far as yesterday, I don't see it as Miller being "wasted". Shreve didn't do his job...and Miller was summoned to shut the door even though he wasn't expected to be used...if Shreve does his job yesterday, this is a non-topic.
...and again, Joe realized that Betances and Miller would have an extra day off tomorrow to rest.


...besides, they won the game yesterday, didn't they? Why are we not talking about Drew double-clutching an easy DP ball?...or the play in the 11th?
 
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yankeesince59 said:
...rick, like I've said, we simply don't know everything that we think we know...as far as yesterday, ...and I don't see it as Miller being "wasted". Shreve didn't do his job...and Miller was summoned to shut the door even though he wasn't expected to be used...if Shreve does his job yesterday, this is a non-topic.
...and again, Joe realized that Betances and Miller would have an extra day off tomorrow to rest.


...besides, they won the game yesterday, didn't they? Why are we not talking about Drew double-clutching an easy DP ball?...or the play in the 11th?
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That too.
 
....besides, they won the game yesterday, didn't they? Why are we not talking about Drew double-clutching an easy DP ball?...or the play in the 11th?
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Not quite sure they would've turned the DP with a clean play by Drew.....but regardless, even if he did blow it, to take your comment a step further - and you can call it nitpicking but, my opinion - why did he remove Pirela?

I say this ONLY because if the Yanks are serious (and they should be) about Pirela possibly taking over the position in the near future (next year? later on the season?), why not let him just PLAY the whole game when you're going to start him?

Playing defense late and close in games is part of the learning process.
Take off the gohddam diapers and let the kid grow.

Jeez, it's a game in June.....the very time when these kids should be getting their "on the job training" so to speak.

How are we going to find out whether or not Pirela gets the yips in late close situations?

To me, he appears to have quick hands turning the DP.
I want at least, to have a fairly good idea of what these kids can do when the 2nd half comes around.
 
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Whether its June or September the idea is to win as many games as possible so I have no problem when moves are made for defensive purposes in close games.
 
Rick2583 said:
Whether its June or September the idea is to win as many games as possible so I have no problem when moves are made for defensive purposes in close games.
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Thank you Rick.
And we could possibly, maybe, perhaps have a good hitting young 2b (and I happen to believe he is/will be a good hitting 2b) on our hands who is being stunted and curtailed in his full growth as a ballplayer.

We're not talking about some older player who has lost a step defensively in the field or a KNOWN established "butcher" who is in the lineup solely for his bat.
 
I don't think a players development (growth) is going to be curtailed by being replaced in late close games while he's further developing his craft. Pirela may end up being a very good fielder eventually but he isn't now. And like I said the idea is to win games anyway you can.
 
Rick2583 said:
I don't think a players development (growth) is going to be curtailed by being replaced in late close games while he's further developing his craft. Pirela may end up being a very good fielder eventually but he isn't now. And like I said the idea is to win games anyway you can.
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Okay, I hear ya.

I just prefer, especially at this point in the season, to let the WHOLE package try and develop. Pirela may or may not turn into a steady defensive player, I also want to find out.

And when should we, or when will we begin to get a general idea based on various situations, what kind of fielder he really is?

I'm only saying, imo - let the kid play the whole game and get chances defensively in games where one or two runs can decide the game.

As it turned out, and I know Drew is an accomplished good defensive infielder, he (Drew) failed to handle a possible DP cleanly.

Of course GJG used CYA with the Drew move.

Oh well, that's the way it goes.

Want to wrap this up?
Go ahead, close it out if you like.
 
blgridesagain said:
....besides, they won the game yesterday, didn't they? Why are we not talking about Drew double-clutching an easy DP ball?...or the play in the 11th?
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Not quite sure they would've turned the DP with a clean play by Drew......
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...what?...did you even watch the play?...the bobbled relay to 1B was a bang bang play as it was...so yeah, it's safe to say the DP would have been turned without the bobble.
 
blgridesagain said:
I'm only saying, imo - let the kid play the whole game and get chances defensively in games where one or two runs can decide the game.

As it turned out, and I know Drew is an accomplished good defensive infielder, he (Drew) failed to handle a possible DP cleanly.

Of course GJG used CYA with the Drew move.
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...letting an inferior 2Bman continue to play in the late innings of a close game when you have a much better fielder you can use instead would be irresponsible on the manager's part...there's a good reason why it's called "a late inning defensive replacement". Removing Perela in lieu of Drew was the correct move, regardless of the outcome.
...otherwise, it would be no different than leaving an inferior relief pitcher in the game in a close game in the 9th inning when you have a rested and/or healthy Betances/Miller available to come in.

...and again, I don't know why you are questioning whether or not it would have been a DP if Drew had not bobbled the relay. Anyone who saw the play knows it was an easy inning ending DP that was simply not executed properly.
 
Considering how close the play ended up with the bobble he DEFINITELY would have been doubled up had he fielded the play cleanly. No doubt about it.
 
Call it a coincidence or genius , 2 nites ago I predicted something was to happen as a result of a panic move made by an over zealous leader
 
Pastafazul said:
Call it a coincidence or genius , 2 nites ago I predicted something was to happen as a result of a panic move made by an over zealous leader
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It's silly to try and blame the manager for injuries. Most of the time these guys have prior pain they don't tell anyone about and they try and pitch through it.
 
Pastafazul said:
Call it a coincidence or genius , 2 nites ago I predicted something was to happen as a result of a panic move made by an over zealous leader
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Pasta I've made no secret over the years that I'm not a Girardi fan either but seriously, you blame him for some of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Case in point the other night when Tex didn't tag up from 3rd. That's on Teixeira & the 3rd base coach not Girardi. You need to lighten up on the blame game.
 
...wow, just wow. Where do some people come up with shit like this?
 
Rick2583 said:
Have you got an isle number on that Tom? I'm curious to see how much Pasta paid for the crap he shares with us.
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That one was a blue light special at the "As seen of TV" kiosk. Can't miss it.
 
all i can ask u guys is to think outside the box... teams up 5 runs, been sittin out in bullpen for how long?.. u r thinkin game is in hand right? , been used a lot,,,, u get the call to come into a game where there is no save situation, your head's not in it, your body surely won't be.... INJURY, thats how chit happens!! just lookin at the big picture.. thats all.. ima thinker
 
Pastafazul said:
all i can ask u guys is to think outside the box... teams up 5 runs, been sittin out in bullpen for how long?.. u r thinkin game is in hand right? , been used a lot,,,, u get the call to come into a game where there is no save situation, your head's not in it, your body surely won't be.... INJURY, thats how chit happens!! just lookin at the big picture.. thats all.. ima thinker
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He's a professional baseball player and a closer on top of it. To say he got injured because his head wasn't in the game is not thinking outside of the box. It's not thinking at all.
 
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