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3RA1N1AC said:
now as far as media agendas, without getting too conspiratorial, lets just say its not exactly the white and the blacks they want fighting. its the middle class and the poor.
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there's more than 1 way to skin a cat. They feed us gun control to bicker over, racial tensions, dem vs. Repub. Class warfare. Ect. As long as we bicker and they slide 800 page bills under the radar full of pork barrel spending and unconstitutional jargon, who cares?

People are easy to control. Government needs 4 things in their pocket; media, check. Food, (farm subsidies anyone?) Check. Air, (taxing you for the air you breathe in is too obvious, so lets tax the air you breathe out, they'll never suspect it) almost check. Water, for the most part government owns the infrastructure for water.

So really they can turn anything off and use the media they own to feed us some bullshit, like these pesky Arab terrorists, they contaminated our water! get us all worked up and fighting while big brother sits back and jerks off. Or pay farmers not to grow crops and then report a cow feed shortage and triple the price of beef (sound familiar?)

I live some where between atlas shrugged and 1984.
 
blue32 said:
So,

http://abcnews.go.com/US/baltimore-...rged-assault-student-caught/story?id=37518067


Interesting that we are not seeing more outrage about this. I am not trying to race bait, but if these cops were white, holy shit it would be a serious front page debacle and riots.

Edit: I am glad they were caught and prosecuted.
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Wow. Someone needs a vacation.

As you know, I am a big supporter of the police in this country. I've worked with them, and I've known many of them on a personal level.

But this is strait up unacceptable. Period. No excuse for this.

I think School Resource Officers (I'm assuming he was?) need to have a LOT more tolerance than the regular beat cop. The regular beat cop has a different problem to address every day: they make an arrest, or the issue a citation, then go about their week.

A SRO has to deal with the same little douchebags on a daily basis. And yes, I have no doubt this kid was probably acting up and mouthing off. The difference here though is that chances are that kid is going to act up again. And again. And again. And the tensions rise with each incident, because the child is immature and doesn't yet have the benefit of maturity or wisdom enough to know that he/she just needs to shut the fuck up and concentrate on school.

But there is never an excuse for this. If you ask me, the principle needs to work better at fixing this problem with the parents BEFORE it gets this out of control.

This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that Law Enforcement just does not need in this country right now. Not when Social Media and Justice Warriors are watching their every move, and not when the issues of race have been so volitile as it has been lately.

I hope they throw the book at this officer. He has disgraced everything I believe about Law Enforcement, and his fellow officers who work hard to keep their communities safe.

And I won't be surprised to see a Lawsuit. But the school needs to be more aggressive in dealing with this shit by bringing the parents in BEFORE it gets out of control. Otherwise, they are just as guilty as everyone else involved.

That's my take on this.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
black people have suffered disproportionately at the hands of racist white cops, and corrupt court systems for centuries. if the cop was white, yes, it would be a bigger deal, and there would be more outrage, because the video would publicly put a face on the injustice. i dont get how people dont understand this.

also, by and large, when you see protests, it is because the offenders have not been charged or found guilty of their obvious crimes. hence the outrage.

now as far as media agendas, without getting too conspiratorial, lets just say its not exactly the white and the blacks they want fighting. its the middle class and the poor.
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I think we can all agree on the media being a bigger player in the cause of the riots that turn violent. I guess my thought is that the media needs to start treating things like this equally. Once treated equally, there will (hopefully) not be this division that is fostered by the media. That division is what continually helps fuel the racial hatred. At least in my opinion.
 
blue32 said:
I think we can all agree on the media being a bigger player in the cause of the riots that turn violent. I guess my thought is that the media needs to start treating things like this equally. Once treated equally, there will (hopefully) not be this division that is fostered by the media. That division is what continually helps fuel the racial hatred. At least in my opinion.
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I agree. I will NEVER forgive the media in this country for what they've done against black people, Republicans, race, and gun owners. They make blacks look like hoodlums and rioters, they make Republicans out to be racist, they splash the race of everybody across headlines every time a social issue comes up, and they've made gun owners out to be psycho nutcases who's sole purpose is to mow down people at theaters, schools, and malls.

All because it sells. And it sells because it plays on people's emotions and feelings.

I will never forgive the media in this country. They are vile and immoral.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Spoken like someone who doesn't have kids.

Doesn't matter what the kid may or may not have said, you don't slap them. That cop is lucky he's still breathing.
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See? You're getting me wrong. That cop needs to be held accountable, and should be punished as severely as the law allows.

But that doesn't mean the kid should get a free pass for behaving like an asshole.
 
BlazerWookee said:
See? You're getting me wrong. That cop needs to be held accountable, and should be punished as severely as the law allows.

But that doesn't mean the kid should get a free pass for behaving like an asshole.
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1st, you don't know if the kid was behaving like an asshole.

2nd, he got the shit slapped out of him, I wouldn't call that a free pass.
 
Jade Falcon said:
I agree. I will NEVER forgive the media in this country for what they've done against black people, Republicans, race, and gun owners. They make blacks look like hoodlums and rioters, they make Republicans out to be racist, they splash the race of everybody across headlines every time a social issue comes up, and they've made gun owners out to be psycho nutcases who's sole purpose is to mow down people at theaters, schools, and malls.

All because it sells. And it sells because it plays on people's emotions and feelings.

I will never forgive the media in this country. They are vile and immoral.
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3 words:

Finding versus looting.
 
BlazerWookee said:
See? You're getting me wrong. That cop needs to be held accountable, and should be punished as severely as the law allows.

But that doesn't mean the kid should get a free pass for behaving like an asshole.
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So what you're saying is if a kid acts like an asshole he/she deserves violence?

Yeah... No....
 
SlyPokerDog said:
1st, you don't know if the kid was behaving like an asshole.

2nd, he got the shit slapped out of him, I wouldn't call that a free pass.
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I'd say getting the shit slapped out of him was a pretty good indicator that asshole behavior was at least percieved, if not actually behaved.

Besides, I was just curious what sort of thing the kid could have said or done, or what the cop could have thought the kid said or did, that would, in the cop's mind, justify the escalation from verbal interrogation to physical assault.
 
BlazerWookee said:
I'd say getting the shit slapped out of him was a pretty good indicator that asshole behavior was at least percieved, if not actually behaved.
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That's like saying the woman deserved to get raped because of the way she was dressed.
 
dviss1 said:
So what you're saying is if a kid acts like an asshole he/she deserves violence?

Yeah... No....
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That's not even close to what I'm saying, and you know it. If the kid behaved inappropriately, there should be consequences. Those consequences should not include verbal and/or physical assault by a police officer, or from any adult, for that matter.
 
BlazerWookee said:
If the kid behaved inappropriately,
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And if the kid didn't behave inappropriately? You're making a giant assumption based on what exactly I'm not sure. Maybe the kid was standing up for another student the school cop was being a dick to? Maybe the kid refused to give they guy his lunch money? We don't know. It is a little disturbing that you only want to focus on the narrative that this kid was some how being an asshole.

That's called victim blaming. That's called justification. That's why I brought up the rape example. A little over the top? Sure. But it doesn't matter what a woman is wearing and it doesn't matter what the kid may or may not have said.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
And if the kid didn't behave inappropriately? You're making a giant assumption based on what exactly I'm not sure. Maybe the kid was standing up for another student the school cop was being a dick to? Maybe the kid refused to give they guy his lunch money? We don't know. It is a little disturbing that you only want to focus on the narrative that this kid was some how being an asshole.

That's called victim blaming. That's called justification. That's why I brought up the rape example. A little over the top? Sure. But it doesn't matter what a woman is wearing and it doesn't matter what the kid may or may not have said.
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If he didn't behave inappropriately, odds are he wouldn't have been slapped in the first place.

All I did was wonder aloud what the kid said. Maybe he was being an asshole, maybe he wasn't. But he probably was, because a slap like that is much more likely to be retribution for a perceived insult than for some random act of bullying violence. The cop was mad at the kid for something, and chose not to restrain himself. That choice should, and hopefully will, cost him his badge and his freedom. But he was mad at something the kid said or did, and I'm just curious what that was. How the fuck is that victim blaming?
 
BlazerWookee said:
If he didn't behave inappropriately, odds are he wouldn't have been slapped in the first place.
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Really? You so sure about those odds? The guy was fired from the sheriffs department for tazing an innocent person multiple times in the face during a bank robbery and had a restraining order taken out against him for hitting his girlfriend. He has a history of making terrible choices when it comes to the use of force.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Really? You so sure about those odds? The guy was fired from the sheriffs department for tazing an innocent person multiple times in the face during a bank robbery and had a restraining order taken out against him for hitting his girlfriend. He has a history of making terrible choices when it comes to the use of force.
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So, because the cop has a history of violence, the kid couldn't possibly have been an asshole? Seriously?

What happened to your critical thinking skills?
 
BlazerWookee said:
So, because the cop has a history of violence, the kid couldn't possibly have been an asshole? Seriously?

What happened to your critical thinking skills?
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I've been pretty clear throughout this discussion with you, we don't know what or if the kid said anything to him. You're the one who is making the assumption that the kid mouthed off.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I've been pretty clear throughout this discussion with you, we don't know what or if the kid said anything to him. You're the one who is making the assumption that the kid mouthed off.
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I believe it's quite likely the kid said or did something that pissed the cop off. I also believe that whether or not the kid mouthed off should have absolutely zero impact on whether the cop should be punished as harshly as the law allows.
 
BlazerWookee said:
I believe it's quite likely the kid said or did something that pissed the cop off. I also believe that whether or not the kid mouthed off should have absolutely zero impact on whether the cop should be punished as harshly as the law allows.
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The next time you mouth off to me when we're playing golf I'm hitting your can of Coors Light with a 9 iron.
 
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