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Ed O said:
I don't care if he shoots 38% standing still or 38% taking the most difficult shots in the world. Either way it's terrible and I want a guy who shoots a higher percentage... especially if he doesn't hit any three pointers, so it's an empty 38%.

Ed O.
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What his shooting percentage is this year does not tell me what type of shooter he will be for the rest of his career. Or quite frankly what type of 3 pt shooter he will be. Jason Kidd was horrible his rookie year from behind the arch.

But from watching Barton shoot, he looks like he has a good mid range jumper off the dribble. Regardless what his stats show.
 
He seems like he might be ready to contribute, but then I try to think of a role for him, and I'm unsure where that fits, exactly. He's not the type of guy I ideally want as our scoring threat 6th man, but I don't know how effective he'd be playing alongside someone like, either. Maybe your 9th man? He'll get regular minutes, but more of them in the first half of games.
 
Steve Kerr made a decent comparison last night during the game - Corey Brewer. Obviously Barton has a ways to go but the body type and energy seems to be similar
 
Natebishop3 said:
You mean "The Plastic Man" :devilwink:
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Yeah, I combined the two names, apparently.

He was known in college as Rubber Band and The Plastic Man. The Plastic Man seemed to stick more in the NBA, though. Which is odd. Because the meaning behind The Plastic Man name would make more sense if Rubber Band was the nickname.
 
Boise Blazer said:
Steve Kerr made a decent comparison last night during the game - Corey Brewer. Obviously Barton has a ways to go but the body type and energy seems to be similar
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Makes me laugh. We got Barton in the middle second round. Brewer was a lotto pick by Minne. Kahned!
 
Putting up stats in tank mode doesn't mean a whole lot. Someone has to score points.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
There are obviously different types of shots and therefore different types of shooters. For instance Rudy was a pretty good outside shooter, but his mid range pull up jumpers off the dribble....sucked.

Wes is also this type of shooter. I think the league is full of players who are good "set shot" shooters, but are not very good at getting in the lane and scoring. But I think Barton will be. Right now he does not have the long distance range, but his mid range pull up J is decent.
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Some people think SG's are only there to shoot three's on offense. If those people were running basketball teams, they'd all suck.

Natebishop3 said:
He only started getting regular minutes about six games ago.

Explain how 15.3 ppg, 7 boards, 3.6 assists, 1.6 steals and shooting 58% is not making shots at a reasonable rate?
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I don't think Ed O can answer this one.
 
Boise Blazer said:
Steve Kerr made a decent comparison last night during the game - Corey Brewer. Obviously Barton has a ways to go but the body type and energy seems to be similar
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They're both super-skinny, true. Brewer is taller and more athletic and more of a runner and defender. Barton can create more and is tricksier on offense.

I like Barton. I think he could be part of a productive bench unit if paired with a PG who really went after it on defense. Certainly he's been one of the few reasons to watch during this losing streak. He can be pretty maddening but he's always working and active. I'd written him off totally a couple of weeks ago, but now I'd be happy to see him back.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Yeah, someone has to. That someone doesn't have to be Barton. But it is. So.... no praise?
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He's given a longer leash than he usually would be. And in a lot of these games the Blazers have been down big.

I'm not saying it's all meaningless. I don't think it means too much, though.
 
RoyToy said:
He's given a longer leash than he usually would be. And in a lot of these games the Blazers have been down big.

I'm not saying it's all meaningless. I don't think it means too much, though.
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This just sounds like the same kind of excuse they're making about Dame only having big numbers because he's playing 38 mpg.
 
No. We lost those games. Anyone can put up those numbers in a losing situation like that. Someone has to score. I say wave goodbye to him. We can do better.
 
KingSpeed said:
No. We lost those games. Anyone can put up those numbers in a losing situation like that. Someone has to score. I say wave goodbye to him. We can do better.
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We're 1-4 when Dame scores 30 or more. Just sayin' these words could still apply.
 
Boise Blazer said:
Barton could do wonders for his game by becoming at least decent from 3. It would open up his game dramatically. Im not sure if thats possible but its what I would like to see him work on.
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absolutely, he gets a decent outside game and it really opens up for him and the team
 
Natebishop3 said:
Reasoning with Kingspeed is like reasoning with a five year old.
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Oh dude, learn the game. Barton has never scored 30+ so it doesn't compare. When Damian plays well 20+, we win a lot of the time. Also, don't insult five your olds. I know lots of smart 5 year olds?
 
I'm coming around on Barton. He's got a ways to go. But a serviceable player picked at #40? I'll take it.
 
KingSpeed said:
No. We lost those games. Anyone can put up those numbers in a losing situation like that. Someone has to score. I say wave goodbye to him. We can do better.
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Precisely.

No one care that he puts up puts when the team in down 20pts.
 
Its always funny to me how myopic some Blazer fans can be. Like 21 and 22 year olds are as good now as they'll ever be....

Yawn.
 
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