OT Baseball and Football Coming to Portland?

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Are you native Portland? If so, how could you not root for your hometown?

I'm a native Portlander (and 5th generation Oregonian), but I could never, ever root for another MLB team other than the SF Giants. They were the "regional" team when I was growing up and I'm too old and invested to switch. My only interest in Portland getting a baseball team is if it's a National League team. Then I could see the Giants play enough every year to satisfy my fandom without the trip to SF.......

 

[riverman]

The Portland Pranksters otherwise know as the PPs

 

[dviss1]

I'm a native Portlander (and 5th generation Oregonian), but I could never, ever root for another MLB team other than the SF Giants. They were the "regional" team when I was growing up and I'm too old and invested to switch. My only interest in Portland getting a baseball team is if it's a National League team. Then I could see the Giants play enough every year to satisfy my fandom without the trip to SF.......

I get it. For me, I only really rooted for Philly because I LOVED Randall Cunningham. My favorite player of all time. We had no NFL team so it was easy for me to latch on to the Eagles.
But I'm a hometown first type of cat. I'd still root for Philly because it's what I'm used to.

I have no MLB team. I just don't really watch it until the playoffs.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Then NEVER change. PDX football can be your 2nd team.

I'm down with that!

I'm a native Portlander (and 5th generation Oregonian), but I could never, ever root for another MLB team other than the SF Giants. They were the "regional" team when I was growing up and I'm too old and invested to switch. My only interest in Portland getting a baseball team is if it's a National League team. Then I could see the Giants play enough every year to satisfy my fandom without the trip to SF.......

I love the Giants. All of my mother's side of the family are devout Giants fans. When I was growing up in the 1990s, however, my father had season tickets for a couple of years to the Oakland A's. We'd drive out to see the games in his 1964 Ford Galaxy 500XL. Very fun indeed! I think I only saw one or two Giants games in all the time we lived down there.

However, as a young adult, I found that we got more coverage of Giants games up here than A's games. Started following them around 2008 or so; the few games I could catch here and there on my days off from work. I've been a fan ever since, and I'll be one for life.

Ugly season right now though. Man, they suck this year. Might be time for a rebuild.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I'm down with that!



I love the Giants. All of my mother's side of the family are devout Giants fans. When I was growing up in the 1990s, however, my father had season tickets for a couple of years to the Oakland A's. We'd drive out to see the games in his 1964 Ford Galaxy 500XL. Very fun indeed! I think I only saw one or two Giants games in all the time we lived down there.

However, as a young adult, I found that we got more coverage of Giants games up here than A's games. Started following them around 2008 or so; the few games I could catch here and there on my days off from work. I've been a fan ever since, and I'll be one for life.

Ugly season right now though. Man, they suck this year. Might be time for a rebuild.

Yep, BG and I thought the Giants would lift us out of our 2017 Blazer doldrums and maybe even win another ring. Man plans and God laughs......

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Cowboys first became the Cowboys in Oregon. Held their first training camp here.

Have the Seahawks or 49ers ever held a training camp here? Hell, they don't even play a preseason game here.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Cowboys first became the Cowboys in Oregon. Held their first training camp here.

Have the Seahawks or 49ers ever held a training camp here? Hell, they don't even play a preseason game here.

hmmmm....to my knowledge, the 9ers have not held training camp in Oregon. Didn't know that about Dallas though.

 

[dviss1]

Cowboys first became the Cowboys in Oregon. Held their first training camp here.

Have the Seahawks or 49ers ever held a training camp here? Hell, they don't even play a preseason game here.

 

[Natebishop3]

Cowboys first became the Cowboys in Oregon. Held their first training camp here.

Have the Seahawks or 49ers ever held a training camp here? Hell, they don't even play a preseason game here.

Better a cowboy fan than a Seahawk fan.

 

[riverman]

Better a cowboy fan than a Seahawk fan.

No way.....the Cowboys are the Lakers and Yankees of football!

 

[Elton]

The Portland Shanghai

 

[riverman]

Cowboys first became the Cowboys in Oregon. Held their first training camp here

and then it rained

 

[Natebishop3]

No way.....the Cowboys are the Lakers and Yankees of football!

Come come, I have seen plenty of front runner Seahawk fans!

 

[riverman]

Come come, I have seen plenty of front runner Seahawk fans!

Green Bay is the Blazers equivalent in the NFL....if I liked football, that'd be my team...used to be long ago

 

[Natebishop3]

Green Bay is the Blazers equivalent in the NFL....if I liked football, that'd be my team...used to be long ago

Tons of annoying Packer fans and Steeler fans too.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I said it once and Ill say it again.

Not happening.

Not enough local corporate sponsorship to fund a stadium and we as citizens will never vote for a tax to fund it. We are smart enough to look at Florida and Texas and the stadiums they are building and how screwed the people are getting over it. We will never vote to pay for it ourselves and there are too many other options for big businesses to go where a city WILL fund a stadium so rich business folk don't have to.

Not sure why this is such a big discussion. Maybe 15-20 years from now as long as everything maintains growth, but not anytime soon.
End thread.

 

[dviss1]

Better a cowboy fan than a Seahawk fan.

Haha. They both suck equally lol.

 

[dviss1]

Green Bay is the Blazers equivalent in the NFL....if I liked football, that'd be my team...used to be long ago

Except MFs take less money to go there in FA...

 

[dviss1]

I said it once and Ill say it again.

Not happening.

Not enough local corporate sponsorship to fund a stadium and we as citizens will never vote for a tax to fund it. We are smart enough to look at Florida and Texas and the stadiums they are building and how screwed the people are getting over it. We will never vote to pay for it ourselves and there are too many other options for big businesses to go where a city WILL fund a stadium so rich business folk don't have to.

Not sure why this is such a big discussion. Maybe 15-20 years from now as long as everything maintains growth, but not anytime soon.
End thread.

Well piss in everyone's oatmeal then...

 

[santeesioux]

Y'all need to let the Indians pay for the stadiums and have a casino near by. Having a casino near by doesn't make it a lawless hellhole, believe me.

 

[dviss1]

Y'all need to let the Indians pay for the stadiums and have a casino near by. Having a casino near by doesn't make it a lawless hellhole, believe me.

I'd be open to this.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Y'all need to let the Indians pay for the stadiums and have a casino near by. Having a casino near by doesn't make it a lawless hellhole, believe me.

The Grand Ronde Tribe (I believe) offered to build an MLB quality ball park in the Portland area during the Kulongoski regime. All they wanted in return was a casino in the PDX metro area. Kulongoski (the slimy little prick) unequivocally turned it down because (at least in part) gambling "sends the wrong message" (though the vested interests who owned Ted were the real reason). How the citizens of Oregon approved this type of decision making in this kind of issue to a single politician is beyond me. But Ted The Midget screwed local MLB fans for the foreseeable future. Lord can we pick 'em....................

 

[barfo]

I said it once and Ill say it again.

Not happening.

Not enough local corporate sponsorship to fund a stadium and we as citizens will never vote for a tax to fund it. We are smart enough to look at Florida and Texas and the stadiums they are building and how screwed the people are getting over it. We will never vote to pay for it ourselves and there are too many other options for big businesses to go where a city WILL fund a stadium so rich business folk don't have to.

Not sure why this is such a big discussion. Maybe 15-20 years from now as long as everything maintains growth, but not anytime soon.
End thread.

But...but... we already came up with a bunch of funny team names!

barfo

 

[BonesJones]

I said it once and Ill say it again.

Not happening.

Not enough local corporate sponsorship to fund a stadium and we as citizens will never vote for a tax to fund it. We are smart enough to look at Florida and Texas and the stadiums they are building and how screwed the people are getting over it. We will never vote to pay for it ourselves and there are too many other options for big businesses to go where a city WILL fund a stadium so rich business folk don't have to.

Not sure why this is such a big discussion. Maybe 15-20 years from now as long as everything maintains growth, but not anytime soon.
End thread.

Disagree with this. A combination of sponsorship + tax would be the solution. Nike would be a big factor IMO.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Baseball and football is much harder than basketball to fund.
Nike isn't enough and drop off after them it's significant.
Have you seen the news on the Stadiums in current construction? I have a bit of inside knowledge talking to the gc's. I supply a lot of the bent steel for the framework ofcof couplecgoing up. Plus it's pretty regularly discussed on the radio.
The taxpayers are getting killed because of the interest factors. The contracts being agreed to are straight robbing he public after all is said and done.
We are too frugal around these parts in my opinion. Oregon has always held its purse tight and been hesitant to spend anything on growth and or entertainment.

 

[Minstrel]

Publicly financed stadiums are a scam unless they're fully owned by the city, which generally hasn't been the case in the past. If a private company is going to own the stadium, and collect the revenue from using it both for their own team as well as renting it for concerts and events, then they should have to pay for the land and construction of it.

Now, if the city is going to wholly own it, charge the team rent and get all the profits from using it for non-sports events, then it can be a benefit to the taxpayers and could be worth spending taxpayer dollars on. Owners generally don't like not having full control and ownership, though.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The Grand Ronde Tribe (I believe) offered to build an MLB quality ball park in the Portland area during the Kulongoski regime. All they wanted in return was a casino in the PDX metro area. Kulongoski (the slimy little prick) unequivocally turned it down because (at least in part) gambling "sends the wrong message" (though the vested interests who owned Ted were the real reason). How the citizens of Oregon approved this type of decision making in this kind of issue to a single politician is beyond me. But Ted The Midget screwed local MLB fans for the foreseeable future. Lord can we pick 'em....................

He was right to turn it down. It was a very flawed proposal and unfair to the other tribes in Oregon.

A better plan would be to allow NW tribes to jointly operate a casino in the Portland area. A mix of a physical location near the new convention center hotel and riverboat gambling. A better idea would be to use the old MC as a casino.

Casino gambling needs to be used to increase tourism and to help fill up that pretty new convention hotel that taxpayers are underwriting the cost of. Right now once this new hotel is opened you will see a line of buses taking conventioneers to the new casino in La Center. Which means very little economic benefit to Portland.

 

[santeesioux]

A riverboat casino would be cool as shit.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

He was right to turn it down. It was a very flawed proposal and unfair to the other tribes in Oregon.

A better plan would be to allow NW tribes to jointly operate a casino in the Portland area. A mix of a physical location near the new convention center hotel and riverboat gambling. A better idea would be to use the old MC as a casino.

Casino gambling needs to be used to increase tourism and to help fill up that pretty new convention hotel that taxpayers are underwriting the cost of. Right now once this new hotel is opened you will see a line of buses taking conventioneers to the new casino in La Center. Which means very little economic benefit to Portland.

Screw the other tribes. I haven't heard of them trying to get on board since the proposal was rejected. If they really cared about making it work, we would have heard from them. And where folks choose to gamble is a casino problem, not a tax payer problem. If we get an MLB stadium in the PDX metro area, then the PDX metro area will benefit economically and that is supposed to be the first priority. The Grande Ronde tribe certainly didn't seem to share your concerns when they made the proposal. But then, the white man has always looked out for the best interests of the red man, right.....?

 

[riverman]

Baseball and football is much harder than basketball to fund.
Nike isn't enough and drop off after them it's significant.
Have you seen the news on the Stadiums in current construction? I have a bit of inside knowledge talking to the gc's. I supply a lot of the bent steel for the framework ofcof couplecgoing up. Plus it's pretty regularly discussed on the radio.
The taxpayers are getting killed because of the interest factors. The contracts being agreed to are straight robbing he public after all is said and done.
We are too frugal around these parts in my opinion. Oregon has always held its purse tight and been hesitant to spend anything on growth and or entertainment.

Eugene would pull it off....some state of the art sports facilities have been built around here and they've got a minor league team already...they also have the land and Phil Knight basically is everyone's landlord here anyway. Tracktown USA....hotels...parking...The Emeralds...U of O facilities...airport...it would work in Eugene