Batman and robin

[magnifier661]

I think people are confusing what the batman mentality truly is. He isn't some messiah that can't miss and is always clutch when it matters. The "batman" is the player that isn't afraid to be the focal point, miss, then still shoot to carry his team. He is the one that is not afraid to be scape goat when the team is doing badly. Basically the batman is the face of the team.

Robin is the guy that is really good, yet doesn't have the mentality to carry a team. He can have "batman" moments, but for the most part, he is an important cog in the fine tuned machine.

Jamaal Crawford has the "batman" mentality. Aldridge has the "robin" mentality.

The reason why Crawford isn't truly a batman, is he doesn't have the consistency to back up his drive. The reason why Roy was a batman was he had game to back up his drive.

Aldridge could be a batman if he had crawfords drive, but he doesn't. I'm fine with that because I think teams should only have one batman. Lillard is our batman now.

So regardless if Aldridge is traded or stays on this team, he is a true robin and is truly valuable for a championship caliber team. We need to be patient and see if lillard will have the game to back up his drive. Personally I think he does.

 

[Rhal]

Heres the problem with PF's as a franchise player and thats so few of them can actually create their own shot. Most have to get the ball in the post or get open through the pick and roll or have to move around without the ball and then take the open shot once they get it. This is why its so important to have PG/Wing players who can create there own shot because your PF (unless your name's Dirk) isn't going to be dribbling the ball and trying to create a shot instead once they have the ball there going to be backing their man down, doing a fade away or just straight up shooting it in the opponents face like Garnett.
PF/C's aren't going to be breaking someones ankles or slashing to the rim and kicking it out for the most part thats just not part of a big mans game. Its why having a great big man is important but you need that Parker/Ginobli type players as well or your going to be Toronto with Bosh.

 

[magnifier661]

Heres the problem with PF's as a franchise player and thats so few of them can actually create their own shot. Most have to get the ball in the post or get open through the pick and roll or have to move around without the ball and then take the open shot once they get it. This is why its so important to have PG/Wing players who can create there own shot because your PF (unless your name's Dirk) isn't going to be dribbling the ball and trying to create a shot instead once they have the ball there going to be backing their man down, doing a fade away or just straight up shooting it in the opponents face like Garnett.
PF/C's aren't going to be breaking someones ankles or slashing to the rim and kicking it out for the most part thats just not part of a big mans game. Its why having a great big man is important but you need that Parker/Ginobli type players as well or your going to be Toronto with Bosh.

I agree completely!

It's funny but if you look at all the titles won in the last 30 years; they all had that wing you mentioned.

 

[THE HCP]

I'm the HULK up in this motherfucker!

 

[magnifier661]

I'm the HULK up in this motherfucker!

By hulk if you mean; being able to down 10 macho "green burritos" in less than a minute; I completely agree.

 

[magnifier661]

Heres the problem with PF's as a franchise player and thats so few of them can actually create their own shot. Most have to get the ball in the post or get open through the pick and roll or have to move around without the ball and then take the open shot once they get it. This is why its so important to have PG/Wing players who can create there own shot because your PF (unless your name's Dirk) isn't going to be dribbling the ball and trying to create a shot instead once they have the ball there going to be backing their man down, doing a fade away or just straight up shooting it in the opponents face like Garnett.
PF/C's aren't going to be breaking someones ankles or slashing to the rim and kicking it out for the most part thats just not part of a big mans game. Its why having a great big man is important but you need that Parker/Ginobli type players as well or your going to be Toronto with Bosh.

I really started thinking about this Wing wins championships idea, so I looked back the past 30 years.

1981 - Celtics: Wing = Larry Bird
1982 - Lakers: Wing = Magic Johnson
1983 - 76ers: Wing = Dr. J
1984 - Celtics: Wing = Larry Bird
1985 - Lakers: Wing = Magic Johnson / Worthy
1986 - Celtics: Wing = Bird
1987 - Lakers: Wing = Magic / Worthy
1988 - Lakers: Wing = Magic / Worthy
1989 - Pistons: Wing = Thomas / Dumars
1990 - Pistons: Wings = Thomas / Dumars
1991 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1992 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1993 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1994 - Rockets: Wings = Kenny Smith / Maxwell
1995 - Rockets: Wings = Kenny Smith / Maxwell
1996 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1997 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1998 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1999 - Spurs: Wings = Elliot (but I don't think he fits in this mold you are talking about)
2000 - Lakers: Wings = Kobe
2001 - Lakers: Wings = Kobe
2002 - Lakers: Wings = Kobe
2003 - Spurs: Wings = Parker and Gionobli
2004 - Pistons: Wings = Billups (hamilton never created his own shot)
2005 - Spurs: Wings = Parker and Gionobli
2006 - Miami Heat: Wings = Wade
2007 - Spurs: Wings = Parker and Gionobli
2008 - Celtics: Wings = Ray Allen, Pierce and Rondo
2009 - Lakers: Wings = Kobe
2010 - Lakers: Wings = Kobe
2011 - Mavericks: Wing = Terry / Kidd / Jose Barea
2012 - Heat: Wings = LBJ and Wade

So out of all the championship teams; only one team didn't really have that wing that can create his own shot.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I really started thinking about this Wing wins championships idea, so I looked back the past 30 years.

1981 - Celtics: Wing = Larry Bird
1982 - Lakers: Wing = Magic Johnson
1983 - 76ers: Wing = Dr. J
1984 - Celtics: Wing = Larry Bird
1985 - Lakers: Wing = Magic Johnson / Worthy
1986 - Celtics: Wing = Bird
1987 - Lakers: Wing = Magic / Worthy
1988 - Lakers: Wing = Magic / Worthy
1989 - Pistons: Wing = Thomas / Dumars
1990 - Pistons: Wings = Thomas / Dumars
1991 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1992 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1993 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1994 - Rockets: Wings = Kenny Smith / Maxwell
1995 - Rockets: Wings = Kenny Smith / Maxwell
1996 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1997 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1998 - Bulls: Wings = Jordan / Pippen
1999 - Spurs: Wings = Elliot (but I don't think he fits in this mold you are talking about)
2000 - Lakers: Wings = Kobe
2001 - Lakers: Wings = Kobe
2002 - Lakers: Wings = Kobe
2003 - Spurs: Wings = Parker and Gionobli
2004 - Pistons: Wings = Billups (hamilton never created his own shot)
2005 - Spurs: Wings = Parker and Gionobli
2006 - Miami Heat: Wings = Wade
2007 - Spurs: Wings = Parker and Gionobli
2008 - Celtics: Wings = Ray Allen, Pierce and Rondo
2009 - Lakers: Wings = Kobe
2010 - Lakers: Wings = Kobe
2011 - Mavericks: Wing = Terry / Kidd / Jose Barea
2012 - Heat: Wings = LBJ and Wade

So out of all the championship teams; only one team didn't really have that wing that can create his own shot.

Batman doesn't have wings. He wears a cape.