Batum has me worried, talk me down!

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What is he up to? I read someone mention him resting for the Olympics and team France. But I can't help but notice he just entirely stopped trying after the trade/fire. I am worried that he is tanking too so that the Blazers will not sign him to a big contract and then suddenly he'll be revitalized in say ... Boston. Any other couch therapist ideas out there?
 
Paul Allen is extremely paranoid about another Jermaine O'Neal happening. I wouldn't worry too much.
 
He's like a lot of players on this roster that have been exposed as completely overrated. He's got no handle, can't shoot off the dribble and lacks any sort of aggressive instinct.

He seemed like a nice complementary piece when we had a healthy Roy and the dreams of Oden, but we need much more now from the SF spot (he's no SG).

He doesn't have me worried. The big contract he's looking for has me worried. If this is him "hungry," wait until he gets paid. It's going to be brutal.
 
craigehlo said:
He's like a lot of players on this roster that have been exposed as completely overrated. He's got no handle, can't shoot off the dribble and lacks any sort of aggressive instinct.

He seemed like a nice complementary piece when we had a healthy Roy and the dreams of Oden, but we need much more now from the SF spot (he's no SG).

He doesn't have me worried. The big contract he's looking for has me worried. If this is him "hungry," wait until he gets paid. It's going to be brutal.
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As a SG his per was in the 20s. At sf not so much
 
When he became a starting guard, I expected him to bloom and he didn't. When he returned to forward, I expected a resurgence of energy and didn't get it. Maybe if we make him the Coach he'll wake up.
 
craigehlo said:
When his 3-point shot (his only real offensive weapon) left him, that's when he went into a tailspin.
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I completely disagree that his only offensive weapon is the three. In fact, he has a nice drive to the free throw line for a fade away jumper. He is a better offensive rebounder too. Again when he's playing SG. He doesn't have to worry about a stronger and same height sf on him.
 
jlprk said:
When he became a starting guard, I expected him to bloom and he didn't. When he returned to forward, I expected a resurgence of energy and didn't get it. Maybe if we make him the Coach he'll wake up.
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At shooting guard he did bloom. He had a +20 per. What more do you want?
 
I want something real instead of PER.
 
IMHO He's a good 4th or 5th option on the floor. The problem is that the Blazers are going to pay him like he's a 2nd or 3rd option. Tying big money up in Batum (anything more than 5-6 mil) would be detrimental to this team's ability to score point.
 
Small sample size argument vs PER at SG argument. I don't know what to believe.
 
magnifier661 said:
It was 15 games. That's small in this condensed season? Shit man, we threw Felton under the bus for 10 games of piss poor performance.
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If he were setting the world on fire at SG, there's no way he would have been moved back to SF. I watched all those games and he disappeared for stretches but he was shooting the 3 really well. Once that left, we has just another sold defender with streaky offense (see Arron Afflalo).
 
Nothing is wrong. Batum is a role player that most of you over value
 
13.6, 45% FG, 39.1% TPFG, 4.4 rebounds, 1 SPG and 1 BPG.
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Nothing special this far into his career. In the similarity score blow on that Basketball Reference page the "similarity scores" listed these players:

Charles Oakley
John Salley
Clarence Weatherspoon
Tom Chambers
Tom Meschery
Robert Horry
Andres Nocioni
John Williams
Jerome Kersey
Dick Schnittker

His numbers are similar to role playing big men for the most part.
 
I honestly think we should trade him while the league still thinks very highly of him. If we could use him as piece in a trade to acquire a star guard, I'm all for it.
 
He's an older version of Darius Miles with less athleticism, inferior inside play but a superior outside shot. I hope we don't give him a Miles type of contract.
 
He gets a high PER due to high shooting percentages. But he refuses to shoot.
 
craigehlo said:
Nothing special this far into his career. In the similarity score blow on that Basketball Reference page the "similarity scores" listed these players:

Charles Oakley
John Salley
Clarence Weatherspoon
Tom Chambers
Tom Meschery
Robert Horry
Andres Nocioni
John Williams
Jerome Kersey
Dick Schnittker

His numbers are similar to role playing big men for the most part.
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Um, that's a damn good list to be in. I don't know if you have an idea on my opinion of Batum, but I labeled him valued like "Kersey" to the 90's era team. That type of value. Someone that was a 3rd option, but could be 4th at times.
 
I dunno if he's affected by the weirdness in the lockerroom. He's quiet and kind of shy and his bestest buddies were Rudy and Patty. Plus he looked up to Roy.

But even I am getting tired of waiting for him to blossom. What happened to that guy who dunked on Pau Gasol twice?

What with him sucking and Elliot getting season-ending surgery, I see basically no reason to watch the games any more.
 
magnifier661 said:
Um, that's a damn good list to be in. I don't know if you have an idea on my opinion of Batum, but I labeled him valued like "Kersey" to the 90's era team. That type of value. Someone that was a 3rd option, but could be 4th at times.
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It seems Mags, the other posters are suggesting try to trade Nico for a 2nd option while the league thinks he's a 2nd option. Perhaps if given the trade opportunity, we should take it. *le sigh*
 
westnob said:
It seems Mags, the other posters are suggesting try to trade Nico for a 2nd option while the league thinks he's a 2nd option. Perhaps if given the trade opportunity, we should take it. *le sigh*
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Absolutely! If we could package Batum and a pick for a legit second option, I would do it in a heart beat. I love Batum, but he never was "untouchable" in my mind. He's a great complimentary player, but we need Batman. Aldridge is Robin, and can't be counted on to carry a team like Roy did. We need a wing "All star"; like Buchannon said a couple days ago. Either it be a PG or SG; we need someone that can take over the 4th. We don't have that type of consistent leadership the moment Roy went down.
 
magnifier661 said:
Absolutely! If we could package Batum and a pick for a legit second option, I would do it in a heart beat. I love Batum, but he never was "untouchable" in my mind. He's a great complimentary player, but we need Batman. Aldridge is Robin, and can't be counted on to carry a team like Roy did. We need a wing "All star"; like Buchannon said a couple days ago. Either it be a PG or SG; we need someone that can take over the 4th. We don't have that type of consistent leadership the moment Roy went down.
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Aldridge is already a second option. We need a first option
 
I'd say given his talent and ability to draw multiple defenders, and the way he reacts to them now, LA is a first option. He just isn't as good a leader as he should be, so a lot of people consider him a second option.
 
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