Bayless Falling Out Of Favor With The Coaching Staff?

[Nikolokolus]

Blake did not stink - but I agree with the idea, at large. Bayless is green. He is going to take time to develop - and it is beyond stupid to give up on him when he has shown great progress from year one and has shown that he can be an explosive scorer.

It will take time - and it might fail - but generally speaking JB has the athletic ability, work ethic and scoring ability to be a good player in this league. It's just going to take time - both calendar and play time.

I totally agree with this, my only question with Bayless is whether or not what he provides (and hopefully will provide) is what this team needs from the starting point guard position once Dre' is done here. I'm just not sure.

 

[andalusian]

I totally agree with this, my only question with Bayless is whether or not what he provides (and hopefully will provide) is what this team needs from the starting point guard position once Dre' is done here. I'm just not sure.

Fair enough - but there is no way to find for sure without giving him the time and letting the chips fall as they may.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Fair enough - but there is no way to find for sure without giving him the time and letting the chips fall as they may.

Sure, I've got no problem with that.

 

[EGame]

Dang, I guess Bayless needs to bitch more much like Rudy (and just to clear something up, I am not saying it is fact that Rudy was ever upset because I don't know, but at the same time, it isn't a coincidence IMO, that once that report came out he got nice playing time even in games he sucked like against Chicago).

 

[Minstrel]

I totally agree with this, my only question with Bayless is whether or not what he provides (and hopefully will provide) is what this team needs from the starting point guard position once Dre' is done here. I'm just not sure.

Bayless will never be a "pure point guard" or "true point guard." As long as he can defend opposing point guards, I don't think the shape of his production matters, just that he IS productive.

I mean, I'd be fine with Aldridge and his production at point guard...so long as he could defend point guards, which he can't. Having Roy felt like a problem when evaluated against having a pure point guard because Roy wants to control the ball, but so will the true point guard. However, we can also see Roy as a luxury...he frees us from needing a true point guard. Let him control the offense, let the other guard just be productive...in any way. It doesn't have to be passing/setting up the offense (though any passing would be nice). What Roy can't do is defend point guards. So we need the "other guard" to do that. I think Bayless can be a perfectly effective defensive point guard with his athleticism, size and work ethic.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Bayless will never be a "pure point guard" or "true point guard." As long as he can defend opposing point guards, I don't think the shape of his production matters, just that he IS productive.

I mean, I'd be fine with Aldridge and his production at point guard...so long as he could defend point guards, which he can't. Having Roy felt like a problem when evaluated against having a pure point guard because Roy wants to control the ball, but so will the true point guard. However, we can also see Roy as a luxury...he frees us from needing a true point guard. Let him control the offense, let the other guard just be productive...in any way. It doesn't have to be passing/setting up the offense (though any passing would be nice). What Roy can't do is defend point guards. So we need the "other guard" to do that. I think Bayless can be a perfectly effective defensive point guard with his athleticism, size and work ethic.

I've always said that I've envisioned Bayless as the Byron Scott in our not-quite-as-good version of the 80's Lakers. There were no illusions about him being a point guard, no efforts to shoe-horn him into a mold which his game didn't fit. I hope that someday we do the same.

 

[axs88]

Bayless will never be a "pure point guard" or "true point guard." As long as he can defend opposing point guards, I don't think the shape of his production matters, just that he IS productive.

I mean, I'd be fine with Aldridge and his production at point guard...so long as he could defend point guards, which he can't. Having Roy felt like a problem when evaluated against having a pure point guard because Roy wants to control the ball, but so will the true point guard. However, we can also see Roy as a luxury...he frees us from needing a true point guard. Let him control the offense, let the other guard just be productive...in any way. It doesn't have to be passing/setting up the offense (though any passing would be nice). What Roy can't do is defend point guards. So we need the "other guard" to do that. I think Bayless can be a perfectly effective defensive point guard with his athleticism, size and work ethic.

Although I generally think along the same lines, having a PG who can lead a fast break would be nice, too, since it seems to be a weakness in Roy's game. Not saying Bayless can't develop that to a certain degree, but he's far from a natural at it.

 

[jlprk]

Time for Diener.

Trade Bayless for Blake. I've never seen any PG play from Bayless, even in his summer camp when everyone was praising him. I said even then that he was terrible. Even if you don't like Blake, you have to admit he plays a well-defined position. Bayless just doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

 

[STOMP]

Time for Diener.

Trade Bayless for Blake. I've never seen any PG play from Bayless, even in his summer camp when everyone was praising him. I said even then that he was terrible. Even if you don't like Blake, you have to admit he plays a well-defined position. Bayless just doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

you weren't even registered here during this last summer camp... do you imagine we were pirating your thoughts via short wave radio or reading them on the imaginationet?

STOMP

 

[jlprk]

His first summer camp, 2008, I was saying it on BBB.

This is a bad night for me to have gone after Bayless. He's doing alright in his 11 minutes. Early 4th quarter now.

 

[maxiep]

It doesn't seem that Bayless was falling out of favor tonight. 18 min, which was 3rd for the backcourt behind Roy and Miller.