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Scalma said:
We’ll find out. Zion has holes himself. He isn’t lebron.
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LeBron wasn't what he is today when he first came in the league either, but i would say Zion is the closest we have seen since James joined the NBA.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
What does any commentary by any fan on any forum about any team ever accomplish?
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Exactlu my point. Nothing. So why is it necessary to wash rinse repeat with "criticism" of the sMe old crap on a daily basis. What if someone came in and praised Olsbey or one of the other targeted people every single day with the same level of praise some do in bashing said person.
 
It would be amazing if we could somehow keep Hood along with Baze.
 
CupWizier said:
Exactlu my point. Nothing. So why is it necessary to wash rinse repeat with "criticism" of the sMe old crap on a daily basis. What if someone came in and praised Olsbey or one of the other targeted people every single day with the same level of praise some do in bashing said person.
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It would, similarly, accomplish nothing. So it seems a silly criticism to level.

It's like complaining that people shouldn't drive Fords because they don't advance teleportation technology.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
No one gets a trophy for making it to WCF's. I like NO's moves the last year or so, but seriously saying he's the best GM they've had in years, well it's been like 40 years since they won a ring, all that really proves is we haven't had very good GM's. It was a great year, no doubt, but acting like this one year (in which they got swept in the WCF's) proves that any criticism towards him is now negated doesn't really hold water either.
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No trophy. But the banner is going to look nice in the rafters.
 
BBert said:
It would be amazing if we could somehow keep Hood along with Baze.
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Not sure they both would be happy, unless you offloaded Harkless and made one of them a starter and the other backup.
 
CupWizier said:
Exactlu my point. Nothing. So why is it necessary to wash rinse repeat with "criticism" of the sMe old crap on a daily basis. What if someone came in and praised Olsbey or one of the other targeted people every single day with the same level of praise some do in bashing said person.
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The irony is So strong. So very, very strong.
 
Phatguysrule said:
He's made good moves the whole time he's been here. He's been the best GM we've had in an extremely long time. Anybody who wanted him fired or railed about how bad of a GM he has been should man up and eat crow. If you don't like people holding your feet to the fire just don't be so over reactive.

It's been bad. Many posters on here honestly owe him an apology. Call it eating crow or whatever you want. It's been out of line.
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Nobody owes him shit. He was criticized for mistakes, and those criticisms were valid, no matter what he does now. He can improve, but that doesn't mean that people owe him am apology or need to say they were wrong when they werent.

He's been classified by inactivity. The dead money is rough right now. ET, Craabe, Moe, Meyers were all good moves? And part of it was his overall tone (which hes improved).
 
Reep said:
Just to be clear, if Little is in the running for Rookie of the year, then Olshey is the bomb. But, if Little doesn't even scratch the radar, then is there some crow to go around, or is it just one-way crow?

I don't think the point is if Olshey has done more good than bad. The point as I see it is that he has made good moves and made mistakes. Either way, I don't think any crow is necessary. Time will judge Olshey's moves and this discussion shouldn't even be happening until the end of next season.
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This conversation should be happening regardless. Olshey is making moves to improve this team. As he has every season.
 
BonesJones said:
Nobody owes him shit. He was criticized for mistakes, and those criticisms were valid, no matter what he does now. He can improve, but that doesn't mean that people owe him am apology or need to say they were wrong when they werent.

He's been classified by inactivity. The dead money is rough right now. ET, Craabe, Moe, Meyers were all good moves? And part of it was his overall tone (which hes improved).
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Oh, I think they do. Those moves got us further than we've been in a long freaking time. Anybody who said he deserves to be fired owes it. They know who they are. They were begging to eat crow when they said it. It was a joke then, and it's even more of a joke now that we've made WCF, and look to be moving into contention... You all know who you are. It's only a big deal if you're too little to man up.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Oh, I think they do. Those moves got us further than we've been in a long freaking time. Anybody who said he deserves to be fired owes it. They know who they are. They were begging to eat crow when they said it. It was a joke then, and it's even more of a joke now that we've made WCF, and look to be moving into contention... You all know who you are. It's only a big deal if you're too little to man up.
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If someone screws the pooch and deserves to be fired, but isn't, and then subsequently does well after retaining their position, that doesn't mean that they still didn't deserve to be fired previously.

It is possible to "bifurcate" present success from past incompetence.
 
I love the smell of self-rightous twaddle in the morning. It smells like getting swept in the play-offs because our GM won't replace Aminu and Hark.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
If someone screws the pooch and deserves to be fired, but isn't, and then subsequently does well after retaining their position, that doesn't mean that they still didn't deserve to be fired previously.

It is possible to "bifurcate" present success from past incompetence.
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Don't waste your breath. (typing fingers?)
 
BBert said:
No trophy. But the banner is going to look nice in the rafters.
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What Banner...? They didn't win the division, all they did was get to the WCF's. Don't take this the wrong way I enjoyed the year and the post-season and even believe NO deserves a lot of credit for his moves and the roster he put together this year, but at the same time, they didn't win a ring or get to the finals. Being 4th best doesn't really do it, the goal is to be the best. Next year let's get a healthy nurk and make another run.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I've defended NO all along. The biggest mistake he's made was letting Aldridge walk. He should have traded him the year before when his value was highest and he refused to re-sign with us. Aside from that he's paid guys big money when big money was being handed out.

He's the best GM we could hope to get even if we fired him. Wanting him is replaced is a joke. It's pointless. And it has been a joke every time it's been brought up. I didn't say we can't question moves or discuss alternatives, but people in here have taken it too far in the past. If you fit that bill, then you should eat crow. The guy is a good GM.

You want to be worse? You want to go back to the days of picking high in the lotto every year? Fire him. But we've been down that road.

You know who you are. Eat Crow.
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There is so much to this argument you cannot prove. He's the best GM we could hope to get? Really, you have no way of knowing that.
 
Phatguysrule said:
He's still been the best GM we've had in decades. Even with the mistakes. He's an extremely good GM. He was an extremely good GM even when he gave those "mistake" contracts to the guys who helped get us to the WCF for the first time in decades... It's a joke that anybody was giving him a hard time. An absolute joke. I'm sorry if you fit in that category. Eat crow. That's what you get for publicly disparaging a guy. It's public. People remember. You're on record.

Again. Grow up and eat crow.
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So damn stupid.
 
I see Bazemore starting over Moe. Moe will be good off the bench but Bazemore's 3 and D would be great next to Dame and CJ.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
None taken. Interestingly though, you often proffer your critique of others' opinions. Yours certainly aren't immune.
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And that is in incorrect and NEVER stated or implied i am immune. My complaint has been the same people voice the same complaints over and over again. How many times does the same complaint have to be said?
 
BonesJones said:
I wouldve drafted Little. HoopsJock wouldve drafted Little. Dviss wouldve drafted Little. You wouldve drafted Little. 95% of this forum wouldve drafted Little.
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While that is true, if he trades the pick last year we wouldn't have gotten anyone.
 
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