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Idc, it’s the principle of it. They can win without him.

I see it the way you do, if I had it my way he would be nothing more than a ball boy until he graduates. I’m just trying to shed light on why the university and AD made the decisions they did. I also feel for the other kids on the team.

The best thing to come out of this is OSU last summer became the second school in the P12 that made it possible for them to deny admittance or place an accepted enrollee on an academic probation of sorts for anyone that has a prior violent offense. This would obviously include sexual crimes.
 
I see it the way you do, if I had it my way he would be nothing more than a ball boy until he graduates. I’m just trying to shed light on why the university and AD made the decisions they did. I also feel for the other kids on the team.

The best thing to come out of this is OSU last summer became the second school in the P12 that made it possible for them to deny admittance or place an accepted enrollee on an academic probation of sorts for anyone that has a prior violent offense. This would obviously include sexual crimes.
Good people do bad things. So, it's not what we did that matters it's what kind of person we are now. Tell me you've never made a serious mistake when you were younger.

Do we know what kind of person he is now? Seems like a decent person, as near as I can tell.
 
Aren't we supposed to be supporters of our team?
Yes and I do, but I wasn’t alive the last time they won a championship, and I do remember the 2000 wcf way to well. I support them win or lose though.
 
Good people do bad things. So, it's not what we did that matters it's what kind of person we are now. Tell me you've never made a serious mistake when you were younger.

Do we know what kind of person he is now? Seems like a decent person, as near as I can tell.

Molesting a little girls doesn’t classify as a “mistake” to me. A mistake is something you can say, oops, after. I have no problems with the kid living his best life I just don’t think playing college baseball for one of the country’s best programs is a luxury he should be afforded.
 
Molesting a little girls doesn’t classify as a “mistake” to me. A mistake is something you can say, oops, after. I have no problems with the kid living his best life I just don’t think playing college baseball for one of the country’s best programs is a luxury he should be afforded.
Maybe I’m just sensitive because my daughter is 6, but you’re right it isn’t a mistake it’s a horrific crime.
 
Maybe I’m just sensitive because my daughter is 6, but you’re right it isn’t a mistake it’s a horrific crime.

I don’t think you’re being overly sensitive. I just think we see fandom override morality in a lot of cases and when that fandom isn’t there you’re able to look at the situation objectively. It’s the same reason you see a lot of Duck fans back Dana Altman without giving him the necessary blame for obviously hiding and lying about what he knew regarding the multiple instances of rape allegations of his players. It’s not a Beaver or Duck thing it’s just a fan thing. I’m a die hard Beav, always have been always will be, but I won’t throw away my moral compass because of it.
 
I don’t think you’re being overly sensitive. I just think we see fandom override morality in a lot of cases and when that fandom isn’t there you’re able to look at the situation objectively. It’s the same reason you see a lot of Duck fans back Dana Altman without giving him the necessary blame for obviously hiding and lying about what he knew regarding the multiple instances of rape allegations of his players. It’s not a Beaver or Duck thing it’s just a fan thing. I’m a die hard Beav, always have been always will be, but I won’t throw away my moral compass because of it.

It was a he said/ she said case and the kid was 15 and took the plea to avoid a harsher penalty. He denies he did it and it has never been proven that he did. I know a kid that turned 18 by a week, had consensual sex with his girlfriend 2 weeks before she turned 17 and the parents of the girl turned the boy in for sexual assault as they were out to get him and used the loophole in the law to have him arrested and it was because of a couple weeks where he was 18 and she was 16. The kid now has to register as a sez offender. It just shows how that it's not always as black and white as one thinks.
 
Molesting a little girls doesn’t classify as a “mistake” to me. A mistake is something you can say, oops, after. I have no problems with the kid living his best life I just don’t think playing college baseball for one of the country’s best programs is a luxury he should be afforded.
Anything is a mistake if you truly repent and are a changed person. ANYTHING

I once worked with a technician at Tektronix who was a part time minister. He worked with ex cons teaching them a work trade. You know, carpentry, plumbing, mechanics, electrical installation, etc. I'm sure some of these guys regressed but you should have heard the success stories. Those success stories warmed the heart.

I once had a government security interview because when I filled out the application, I noted how I had once smoked weed. When the very tough interview was done I asked the interviewer what he thought of my chances of getting the security clearance. He said "You should have thought about that before you committed a felony." I leaned over the Credenza desk, pointed my finger at him and said in an angry voice "Everyone m
I don’t think you’re being overly sensitive. I just think we see fandom override morality in a lot of cases and when that fandom isn’t there you’re able to look at the situation objectively. It’s the same reason you see a lot of Duck fans back Dana Altman without giving him the necessary blame for obviously hiding and lying about what he knew regarding the multiple instances of rape allegations of his players. It’s not a Beaver or Duck thing it’s just a fan thing. I’m a die hard Beav, always have been always will be, but I won’t throw away my moral compass because of it.
No one is throwing away any moral compass. But to hate someone literally forever is just wrong in my book, unless that person doesn't change and repent.
 
It was a he said/ she said case and the kid was 15 and took the plea to avoid a harsher penalty. He denies he did it and it has never been proven that he did. I know a kid that turned 18 by a week, had consensual sex with his girlfriend 2 weeks before she turned 17 and the parents of the girl turned the boy in for sexual assault as they were out to get him and used the loophole in the law to have him arrested and it was because of a couple weeks where he was 18 and she was 16. The kid now has to register as a sez offender. It just shows how that it's not always as black and white as one thinks.

Anything is a mistake if you truly repent and are a changed person. ANYTHING

I once worked with a technician at Tektronix who was a part time minister. He worked with ex cons teaching them a work trade. You know, carpentry, plumbing, mechanics, electrical installation, etc. I'm sure some of these guys regressed but you should have heard the success stories. Those success stories warmed the heart.

I once had a government security interview because when I filled out the application, I noted how I had once smoked weed. When the very tough interview was done I asked the interviewer what he thought of my chances of getting the security clearance. He said "You should have thought about that before you committed a felony." I leaned over the Credenza desk, pointed my finger at him and said in an angry voice "Everyone m

No one is throwing away any moral compass. But to hate someone literally forever is just wrong in my book, unless that person doesn't change and repent.

I don’t hate the kid. I just choose to believe the little girl that had no reason to lie about saying her uncle molested her, and with such detail. There’s obviously problems within the legal system and a lot of gray area in this case in particular, but the thing that doesn’t change is that little girl still said that she was molested and I think it’s telling that BOTH her parents believed her.
 
Get this off our main page please.
What? Your post? Football games are always posted here and I hate football...but I love baseball! Pat Casey is a legend! Go Beavs!
 
Congrats to the Beavers on winning their opening game of the Super Regionals. One more win for a trip to Omaha.
 
Been a really good game so far! Gotta have a big 8th or 9th inning here!
 
Congrats Beavers on a great come from behind win to advance to the College World Series.
 
Did the Beavs finish the game today with Washington.?..they were down a run and had a lightening delay when the game was on at work
 
Did the Beavs finish the game today with Washington.?..they were down a run and had a lightening delay when the game was on at work
It got delayed for like 4 hours, but they bounced back after and won 14-5! The NC vs. Miss State game got delayed to tomorrow.
 

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