Politics BEN SHAPIRO DARES NY COMMIE TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP

[MARIS61]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-debate-her-democratic-socialist-beliefs.html

Ben Shapiro offers Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez $10,000 to debate her democratic socialist beliefs

By Brian Flood | Fox News

Ben Shapiro wants to have a discussion with Democratic Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.


Conservative commentator Ben Shapiro challenged democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to a debate, and is willing to donate $10,000 to her campaign if she accepts.


Shapiro tweeted a video on Wednesday in which he mocked Democratic National Committee chairperson Tom Perez for calling Ocasio-Cortez, a New York congressional candidate, the “future of the Democratic Party,” before issuing his challenge.


“Miss Ocasio-Cortez, I’m really excited that you’ve been elevated to that position and I would love to have a real conversation with you about the issues. You’ve noted that you think Republicans are afraid to debate you or talk to you or discuss the issues with you,” Shapiro said.


“Not only am I eager to discuss the issues with you, I’m willing to offer $10,000 to your campaign, today, for you to come on our Sunday special,” he continued. “We can have an hour long conversation about all the topics under the sun, really probe your belief system.”


Shapiro said he would also debate Ocasio-Cortez for charity.


“However you want to do it, I am more than willing to talk to you,” Shapiro said. “Let’s make this happen.”


Shapiro, Daily Wire editor-in-chief, said that he wants to make “America a more civil and interesting place,” and feels a conversation with Ocasio-Cortez could do just that.


Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign spokesperson did not immediately respond when asked if Shapiro’s challenge would be accepted.


Ocasio-Cortez’s unanticipated victory over veteran Rep. Joe Crowley in the Democratic primary over Crowley's New York seat put her in a national spotlight earlier this year.


Ocasio-Cortez lit up social media on Wednesday night when she appeared on CNN’s “Cuomo Prime Time” and stumbled when discussing Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., the House minority leader.


“This is painful. It’s Miss South Carolina on maps bad,” Shapiro tweeted in response to her interview.


Donald Trump Jr. captioned video of her interview with, “OMG this is insane and yet the liberal campaign to make her the rockstar face of the left will continue ... let’s face it, I guess they don’t have much else.”


Ocasio-Cortez’s talk with Cuomo isn’t her first media appearance to whip up criticism since her upset victory over Crowley. She has struggled to explain how many of her platforms -- such as Medicare for all and a federal jobs guarantee -- would be funded.


Still, she has emerged as a liberal darling since bursting onto the scene – though not everyone is a fan.


Comedian Lewis Black, who also considers himself a socialist, told The Daily Beast in a recent interview that Ocasio-Cortez isn't the answer.


“The one thing I’ve learned in my lifetime is that we’ve got to get to the middle before we start pushing things in other directions. We’ve gotta get to the middle, and they have to sit down and decide how to do things,” Black said when asked if Ocasio-Cortez provides a “glimmer of hope.”


Brian Flood covers the media for Fox News. Follow him on Twitter at @briansflood.

 

[MARIS61]

Wow.

She completely chickened out, then made it worse with some poor-me-defenseless-woman-victim bullshit.

Yeah, that's who I want fighting for my rights in DC.

The Future of the Dems.

 

[santeesioux]

Ben Shapiro's sister has an amazing... voice

 

[Lanny]

Why don't you write some shit about Trump Republicans once in a while? You know, to keep you sharp.

 

[Natebishop3]

I would watch that.

 

[MARIS61]

Why don't you write some shit about Trump Republicans once in a while? You know, to keep you sharp.

I do it all the time but you always dismiss it because it's usually very good news for America.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I enjoy when people don't know the difference from a communist, a socialist, and a democratic socialist.

Also true Trump supporters hate Ben Shapiro.

Shapiro wrote: "I've experienced more pure, unadulterated anti-Semitism since coming out against Trump's candidacy than at any other time in my political career. Trump supporters have threatened me and other Jews who hold my viewpoint. They've blown up my e-mail inbox with anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. They greeted the birth of my second child by calling for me, my wife, and two children to be thrown into a gas chamber."

 

[donkiez]

Shapiro is a troll and he's been harrasing her for weeks with fake videos and taunts just to pander to his audience and get ratings. Any "discussion" with him is a guaranteed circus. Why would she want any part of his shitshow? She doesn't owe him shit. Her biggest mistake was responding to him at all.

 

[Lanny]

I do it all the time but you always dismiss it because it's usually very good news for America.

I said 'shit' not whitewash.

 

[MARIS61]

I enjoy when people don't know the difference from a communist, a socialist, and a democratic socialist. ]

Funny you are naive enough to think that there is a relevant difference.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Maris, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark are not communist countries.

 

[Lanny]

Maris, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark are not communist countries.

Neither is S. Korea and their health care is virtually free. Poor people get all kinds of assistance including free house cleaning; jobs for all; very cheap mass transit. Last time I was there the whole country was prospering very well. They love everything about Americans including our government.

 

[MARIS61]

Commiegirl wants it both ways:

FLASHBACK: Ocasio-Cortez Accused Primary Opponent of 'Avoiding a Debate'

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently rejected Ben Shapiro's Twitter request for a debate and dismissed the challenge as "catcalling," but tweets from several months ago show the Democratic Socialist congressional candidate using a similar strategy against her primary opponent.

Shapiro tweeted a video on Wednesday offering to donate $10,000 to Ocasio-Cortez's campaign if she comes on his program for an hour-long conversation "about all the topics under the sun."

Thursday night, Ocasio-Cortez compared the offer to "catcalling" on Twitter.

"Just like catcalling, I don’t owe a response to unsolicited requests from men with bad intentions," she wrote. "And also like catcalling, for some reason they feel entitled to one."

A tweet from May, however, shows Ocasio-Cortez taking matters into her own hands to get her primary opponent, incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley, agree to a debate with her.

"My opponent seems to be avoiding a debate, and isn’t acknowledging me. It’s just the 2 of us. So weekend I stopped by his office, said hello, & asked for a debate in person," Ocasio-Cortez wrote alongside a photo of her at Crowley's campaign office.

Ocasio-Cortez went after Crowley again a month later, saying she was "disappointed" when he failed to show up to a community debate.

Erielle Davidson, a contributor to The Federalist, said Ocasio-Cortez was willing to engage in dialogue in May, but several months later she has changed her tune.

"I think what it comes down to is she's probably just scared that Ben Shapiro might be able to out-debate her," Davidson said. "She doesn't want to be in a situation where she's going to be challenged."

 

[Lanny]

Commiegirl wants it both ways:

FLASHBACK: Ocasio-Cortez Accused Primary Opponent of 'Avoiding a Debate'

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently rejected Ben Shapiro's Twitter request for a debate and dismissed the challenge as "catcalling," but tweets from several months ago show the Democratic Socialist congressional candidate using a similar strategy against her primary opponent.

Shapiro tweeted a video on Wednesday offering to donate $10,000 to Ocasio-Cortez's campaign if she comes on his program for an hour-long conversation "about all the topics under the sun."

Thursday night, Ocasio-Cortez compared the offer to "catcalling" on Twitter.

"Just like catcalling, I don’t owe a response to unsolicited requests from men with bad intentions," she wrote. "And also like catcalling, for some reason they feel entitled to one."

A tweet from May, however, shows Ocasio-Cortez taking matters into her own hands to get her primary opponent, incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley, agree to a debate with her.

"My opponent seems to be avoiding a debate, and isn’t acknowledging me. It’s just the 2 of us. So weekend I stopped by his office, said hello, & asked for a debate in person," Ocasio-Cortez wrote alongside a photo of her at Crowley's campaign office.

Ocasio-Cortez went after Crowley again a month later, saying she was "disappointed" when he failed to show up to a community debate.

Erielle Davidson, a contributor to The Federalist, said Ocasio-Cortez was willing to engage in dialogue in May, but several months later she has changed her tune.

"I think what it comes down to is she's probably just scared that Ben Shapiro might be able to out-debate her," Davidson said. "She doesn't want to be in a situation where she's going to be challenged."

She's not a Communist. She's a Democrat. Totally different. Democrats do not kiss Putin's ass nor do they kiss Kim Jong-un's ass.

 

[MARIS61]

Neither is S. Korea and their health care is virtually free. Poor people get all kinds of assistance including free house cleaning; jobs for all; very cheap mass transit. Last time I was there the whole country was prospering very well. They love everything about Americans including our government.

You're contradicting yourself. You just described communism.

If they loved our government they would emulate it rather than emulating China.

China has all those things, and pays for them the same way, by stealing from their most productive citizens.

I happen to know 2 SK immigrants very well, and they would tell you your post is bullshit. It is such a horrible, stifling and demeaning place to exist that they left families behind to come here, specifically because our government does not resemble SK's at all. It's oppressive, bigoted and iron-fisted.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/country-chapters/south-korea

"Free" healthcare is Communism's biggest carrot.

Because slaves are of no use if they are sick or dying.

https://international.commonwealthfund.org/countries/china/

 

[MARIS61]

She's not a Communist. She's a Democrat. Totally different. Democrats do not kiss Putin's ass nor do they kiss Kim Jong-un's ass.

The Clintons certainly kissed Putin on the lips, for millions of dollars in return.

And she's no Democrat, nor does she support the DNC platform.

She's a commie, and thinks she is proud of it, although she doesn't understand politics or ideologies at all.

 

[donkiez]

Commiegirl wants it both ways:

FLASHBACK: Ocasio-Cortez Accused Primary Opponent of 'Avoiding a Debate'

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently rejected Ben Shapiro's Twitter request for a debate and dismissed the challenge as "catcalling," but tweets from several months ago show the Democratic Socialist congressional candidate using a similar strategy against her primary opponent.

Shapiro tweeted a video on Wednesday offering to donate $10,000 to Ocasio-Cortez's campaign if she comes on his program for an hour-long conversation "about all the topics under the sun."

Thursday night, Ocasio-Cortez compared the offer to "catcalling" on Twitter.

"Just like catcalling, I don’t owe a response to unsolicited requests from men with bad intentions," she wrote. "And also like catcalling, for some reason they feel entitled to one."

A tweet from May, however, shows Ocasio-Cortez taking matters into her own hands to get her primary opponent, incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley, agree to a debate with her.

"My opponent seems to be avoiding a debate, and isn’t acknowledging me. It’s just the 2 of us. So weekend I stopped by his office, said hello, & asked for a debate in person," Ocasio-Cortez wrote alongside a photo of her at Crowley's campaign office.

Ocasio-Cortez went after Crowley again a month later, saying she was "disappointed" when he failed to show up to a community debate.

Erielle Davidson, a contributor to The Federalist, said Ocasio-Cortez was willing to engage in dialogue in May, but several months later she has changed her tune.

"I think what it comes down to is she's probably just scared that Ben Shapiro might be able to out-debate her," Davidson said. "She doesn't want to be in a situation where she's going to be challenged."

Which office is Ben Shapiro running for?

 

[yankeesince59]

You're contradicting yourself. You just described communism.

If they loved our government they would emulate it rather than emulating China.

China has all those things, and pays for them the same way, by stealing from their most productive citizens.

I happen to know 2 SK immigrants very well, and they would tell you your post is bullshit. It is such a horrible, stifling and demeaning place to exist that they left families behind to come here, specifically because our government does not resemble SK's at all. It's oppressive, bigoted and iron-fisted.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/country-chapters/south-korea

"Free" healthcare is Communism's biggest carrot.

Because slaves are of no use if they are sick or dying.

https://international.commonwealthfund.org/countries/china/

The Clintons certainly kissed Putin on the lips, for millions of dollars in return.

And she's no Democrat, nor does she support the DNC platform.

She's a commie, and thinks she is proud of it, although she doesn't understand politics or ideologies at all.

...don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

..lemme guess, you like skin grafts and root canals too?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

seriously, let her opponent debate her. does she really have to have a filmed debate with every youtube huckster that asks her?

 

[donkiez]

seriously, let her opponent debate her. does she really have to have a filmed debate with every youtube huckster that asks her?

I challenged Donald Trump to a debate. He is ignoring me because he is scared I will make fun of his little hands.

 

[yankeesince59]

I challenged Donald Trump to a debate. He is ignoring me because he is scared I will make fun of his little hands.

...well,, you know what they say about guys with little hands........yup, little gloves.

 

[Further]

I don’t know about her, but I have been impressed with Shapiro. He is very smart and does not seem to follow the same racist pattern of thinking trumpsters do.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Shapiro is incorrect on most subjects. But that doesn’t mean he bad. He is just slightly toxic and annoying after a while. His conclusions are wrong in my opinion but he seems very upstanding and who Republicans should get behind.

Overall Shapiro is someone I respect but disagree with.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Ben Shapiro Offers Woman $10K to Talk To Him And Still Gets Turned Down

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Lanny]

You're contradicting yourself. You just described communism.

If they loved our government they would emulate it rather than emulating China.

China has all those things, and pays for them the same way, by stealing from their most productive citizens.

I happen to know 2 SK immigrants very well, and they would tell you your post is bullshit. It is such a horrible, stifling and demeaning place to exist that they left families behind to come here, specifically because our government does not resemble SK's at all. It's oppressive, bigoted and iron-fisted.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2018/country-chapters/south-korea

"Free" healthcare is Communism's biggest carrot.

Because slaves are of no use if they are sick or dying.

https://international.commonwealthfund.org/countries/china/

Bullshit back at you. My wife of 38 years is Korean. I speak elementary Korean. I can read Korean. I've been to Korea several times. I can relay experiences I had where Koreans adored my presence. What you say is bullshit.

 

[Lanny]

The Clintons certainly kissed Putin on the lips, for millions of dollars in return.

And she's no Democrat, nor does she support the DNC platform.

She's a commie, and thinks she is proud of it, although she doesn't understand politics or ideologies at all.

It's funny the way you fling Commie around without knowing what it is.

How many economists of note can you quote who agree with you that S. Korea is Communist? Zero? Thought so.

Do you ever research stuff before you blurt it out?

 

[MARIS61]

I challenged Donald Trump to a debate. He is ignoring me because he is scared I will make fun of his little hands.

Says this guy:

 

[MARIS61]

Here's someone who knows from experience:

What Is the Real Difference Between Communism and Socialism?
Posted by: Ion Baleanu | July 24, 2017

Those of us that have lived under communism have a riddle we like to spout off. “What’s the difference between a communist and a socialist? The socialist hasn’t yet decided on how to kill you.”

During our last election cycle, we had a candidate who claimed he wanted democratic socialism. How does that work? Do you vote who starves? I suppose it was ironic during the New Hampshire primaries that Bernie Sanders did a majority of the work getting his message out and getting most of the delegates but then Hillary, who did almost no work in New Hampshire comes away winning the state with “Super Delegates.”

These proponents of Democratic Socialism insist that it has no communist basis yet the former name of Communist Romania was Socialist Republic of Romania. For those of us old enough to remember Russia’s former name (USSR-Union of Soviet Socialist Republic), it was another communist regime bragging how socialist it was.

On that note let’s be fair and compare the two. For ease of reference, I will use some of Bernie’s platforms.

In April 2015, the Associated Press quoted him:

What we have seen is that while the average person is working longer hours for lower wages, we have seen a huge increase in income and wealth inequality, which is now reaching obscene levels. This is a rigged economy, which works for the rich and the powerful, and is not working for ordinary Americans … You know, this country just does not belong to a handful of billionaires.”

That sounds nice but now let’s look at what previous “visionaries” said in their day. Vladimir Lenin was the father of the communist movement in Russia. In fact, he was considered socialist but he brought it forth via the Bolsheviks, Russian Communist Party. Lenin saw in Russia the potential, and desperate need, fo

r socialism. The oppression endured by the Russian people was extreme. Peasants barely survived tilling the fields of wealthy landlords, and workers labored 14-hour days in the industrial sweatshops of Russia’s capitalists. Frequent uprisings against these conditions rocked city and countryside, and the people were open to revolutionary ideas. Lenin showed the people that the source of their oppression was capitalism, and the solution lay in socialism.

Deja-vu? What eventually happened to this socialism? Who took over after Lenin? A man that killed more of his own countryman that all that died in WWII, Joseph Stalin.

Bernie’s plan to redistribute the wealth was to tax the rich. Who amongst us thinks the rich alone will be taxed? Who are the rich? Those that own business: banks, manufacturing, food processing, etc.

Let’s take a look at what the communists did when they first took power in Romania.

One of the first actions taken by the Communist Party in Romania soon after coming to power was the so-called “nationalization” of private property. The term itself was coined

by the Communist propaganda, to reflect the ideology they were trying to impose: the property was “returned” to the nation, i.e. to the people who helped build it in the first place. In reality, nationalization meant the confiscation of property from upper social classes (deemed “the enemies of the working class”), without any retribution or compensation.

The first phase started with the confiscation of commercial property: banks, factories, mines, workshops, shipyards, media and telecommunication companies, insurance and transportation companies, etc. The National Bank and all credit institutions were the first to be nationalized in December 1946, followed by the rest of private commercial property on June 11, 1948, when a law was adopted by the Communist government of that time. This also marked the switch to a planned economy, which was to be directed and supervised by the “State Committee for Planning”.

What Sanders calls the average American the Romanian communists called the working class. Sander’s democratic socialism wants to punish entrepreneurs. His version is to strip them of their hard earned money. In Romania, they were sentenced to prison for “having undeclared inventory and for selling goods without an invoice.”

It didn’t end there in 1950 the communist Parliament passed decree 92.

Decree 92 for the nationalization of real estate, issued on April 19, 1950, and published in the Official Bulletin, issue 36/April 20, 1950:

In order to support the strengthening and the development of the socialist economy of the People’s Republic of Romania,

In order to ensure the good management of the housing sector, which has been subjected to degradation through sabotage by rich landlords and exploiters who own a large number of houses.

Does that sound like Bernie’s top 1%? When the Party’s appetite for more land and houses guess who they came after next? The working class.

As in economics, the Bernie propagandists feel health care should be equal across the board. No matter the cost, no matter the person, no matter the government intrusion into your personal life healthcare must be State run. Although that may sound like something from Sanders’ campaign trail that was actually a similar mantra of the Bolsheviks of 1917.

In Old Russia, medical care was a consumer-oriented business. Doctors’ incomes and their standard of living were totally dependent upon professionalism and reputation in

the wider community. Patients decided which doctor to use, which hospital to go to, and which pharmaceutical products to trust. Doctors worked hard to establish their reputation, an important part of which came from providing charity care for the poor. Expectations of high income, along with the status of being a member of a respected profession, generated strong competition for acceptance into medical schools. Contrary to the socialist myth-makers, medical care in Imperial Russia was widely available and provided in a fairly cost-efficient manner. Both the profit motive of the competitive marketplace and the spirit of charity assured the provision of quality medical services throughout Russian society.

As you see, the only difference between socialism and communism is the spelling.

https://www.pissedoffconservative.com/real-difference-communism-socialism/

 

[yankeesince59]

...do you really think that most people will actually take the time to read the wall of words you constantly copy and paste?

...no need to produce something like a manifesto to get your point across.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

...do you really think that most people will actually take the time to read the wall of words you constantly copy and paste?

...no need to produce something like a manifesto to get your point across.

You have to read the part where the author proves his point by showing how great health care was under the Tzars of Russia.

In Old Russia, medical care was a consumer-oriented business. Doctors’ incomes and their standard of living were totally dependent upon professionalism and reputation in

the wider community. Patients decided which doctor to use, which hospital to go to, and which pharmaceutical products to trust. Doctors worked hard to establish their reputation, an important part of which came from providing charity care for the poor. Expectations of high income, along with the status of being a member of a respected profession, generated strong competition for acceptance into medical schools. Contrary to the socialist myth-makers, medical care in Imperial Russia was widely available and provided in a fairly cost-efficient manner. Both the profit motive of the competitive marketplace and the spirit of charity assured the provision of quality medical services throughout Russian society.

All the great pharmaceutical products! Like leeches, cocaine, opium, lysol.