Trade Ben Simmons poll (5 Viewers)

[Orion Bailey]

Why would any player side with Simmons when he's essentially telling them all he doesn't want to play with them?

why not ask some of his teammates? A couple have already come out and backed him

 

[illmatic99]

The risk is we have a guy who is an awful teammate and has four years left at makes 35m a year who nobody wants to play with and is uncoachable.

so we blow it up earlier than expected? that's still not swaying me away from him.

 

[Scalma]

why not ask some of his teammates? A couple have already come out and backed him

Who?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Two wrongs don't make a right. He disrespected every teammate by dogging it in practice.

and some of them understand why and support his decision.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Who?

id have to scroll, but its been noted. One of them said they are still tight off the court, etc?

 

[calvin natt]

so we blow it up earlier than expected? that's still not swaying me away from him.

Blow it up with him? How? I have wanted to blow it up for a while now but I can’t think of a worse way to blow it up than with a Ben Simmons anchor for four years

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Two wrongs don't make a right. He disrespected every teammate by dogging it in practice.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

FWIW:

 

[Rastapopoulos]

id have to scroll, but its been noted. One of them said they are still tight off the court, etc?

Maxey.

 

[calvin natt]

Also, why risk an injury when he knows the situation is beyond repair and will be playing for another team at some point? These guys only have 1 body. Why practice hard and risk injuring your means of livelihood for people who threw you under a bus?

He’s got about $170 m coming regardless of injury. If he cares about his livelihood maybe he should go play and earn his check

 

[Scalma]

Maxey.

So the one guy that's known Simmons from before he was even in the league. Id put money on the majority of the team being on Embiids side. No 50/50 split

 

[Scalma]

I hope Simmons ends up on the shittiest team possible, like the Wizards or some shit

 

[calvin natt]

I would be shocked if more than 2 guys are on Simmons side. My guess it’s 0. I don’t care about how he’s friends with Maxey allegedly. There’s no way they respect this guy.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I would be shocked if more than 2 guys are on Simmons side. My guess it’s 0. I don’t care about how he’s friends with Maxey allegedly. There’s no way they respect this guy.

i think its a business us peasants don't likely understand. I wouldn't be surprised if they understand. May not approve but they understand.

 

[Shaboid]

Did they already announce that he was suspended indefinitely, or did that just drop? What a shit show.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I would be shocked if more than 2 guys are on Simmons side. My guess it’s 0. I don’t care about how he’s friends with Maxey allegedly. There’s no way they respect this guy.

I'm gonna have to agree to disagree. I mean, if you saw this guy at your work, wouldn't you respect him?

 

[Scalma]

I'm gonna have to agree to disagree. I mean, if you saw this guy at your work, wouldn't you respect him?

If we were on the same team, no. It would mean more work for me. Why would I respect that?

 

[calvin natt]

i think its a business us peasants don't likely understand. I wouldn't be surprise of they understand. May mot approve but they understand.

Maybe some don’t

 

[Orion Bailey]

Maybe some don’t

very well could be. But I'm not going to pass judgement either way without being on the inside of things.

 

[THE HCP]

The risk is we have a guy who is an awful teammate and has four years left at makes 35m a year who nobody wants to play with and is uncoachable.

Winning solves a lot.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

 

[Orion Bailey]

MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!

 

[Scalma]

Both sides have played it wrong tbh. Morey needs to get real and Simmons needs to be a pro. This dick measuring contest isn't helping either side.

 

[TBpup]

Great move by Simmons. It should increase the teams urgency to trade him

I'm still on the fence about trading for Simmons; but this is rational behavior, showing up so he can get paid but not engaging so he makes sure he gets traded.

I can't believe Klutch hasn't had someo direction in this or an outright plan as to what they would like him to do. Paul doesn't mess around and you could see this coming from a mile away.....well, everyone except Morey.

lol can't believe the filmed this from this afternoon.

If you read lips carefully, you can see Morey aghast that Neil won't throw in Elleby.

 

[illmatic99]

Both sides have played it wrong tbh. Morey needs to get real and Simmons needs to be a pro. This dick measuring contest isn't helping either side.

perhaps but it's helping other teams in reducing his value further.

and who doesn't want drama?

 

[Scalma]

perhaps but it's helping other teams in reducing his value further.

His value might be reduced, but that doesn't necessarily mean Morey will settle for less. In reality, he has the leverage because Simmons is under contract for multiple years. Its more likely that Simmons suits up and plays for philly than Morey pulling the trigger on a deal he's not satisfied with imo. I don't think this drama will end anytime soon.

 

[calvin natt]

Winning solves a lot.

Sure. But I’m not confident that adding someone like him and losing whoever they’ll lose makes them much better. I’m not sure if he’ll even show up at this point.

 

[RR7]

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Best steaks in town?

 

[illmatic99]

This is really not tenable no matter how much leverage Morey has.

https://theathletic.com/2900382/202...n-at-practices-and-whats-next-for-both-sides/

Consecutive days of Ben Simmons being present but mentally and physically checked out culminated in the Philadelphia 76ers’ All-Star being thrown out of Tuesday’s practice and suspended for one game.


People present at the scene say Simmons has simply come and gone inside the 76ers’ Camden, N.J., facility since returning to practice Sunday. He enters the facility and ignores most 76ers staffers. For instance, when the 76ers’ security official greeted Simmons on Sunday, the three-time All-Star just walked right by him. When others greet him, Simmons typically has given no response. It’s not a requirement for Simmons to talk to people inside the facility, but those present say he has been disengaged and not an active participant.

Each day, Simmons trains by himself on his own side of the basketball court, shooting jumpers and free throws with rebounders. Sixers players greeted Simmons to start practice on Sunday, saying, “Welcome, Ben!” Simmons nodded.

On Sunday and Monday, he completed less than a handful of total defensive drills at practice — nothing more, nothing less. He played a few defensive stands in a scrimmage on Sunday. On Monday, Simmons participated in one drill, talking more to G League coaches than his 76ers coaches as the first team went through preparation for the opener in New Orleans with Tyrese Maxey in Simmons’ place in the starting lineup, sources said. Throughout his first two days of practice, Simmons did not sprint in a live scrimmage setting. He conducted some one-on-one work with coaches, working up a sweat.

But on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, Simmons was the first 76ers player to leave practice. He simply came and went, changing clothes and not even showering at the team’s facility.

Simmons showed up to 76ers’ practice on Tuesday with a similar disposition: disengaged from everyone, spending time alone and displaying the same stoic face. He had yet to be placed into an offensive scrimmage for coach Doc Rivers’ practices since returning, and on Tuesday, as the team was going through a walk-through — a pre-practice exercise — Simmons was summoned.

Rivers wanted Simmons to take a spot on defense during this walk-through drill, and Simmons shook his head and refused. So Rivers asked once more.

“Ben, get in,” Rivers told Simmons, according to sources, “and take the spot.”

Simmons said no again.

“Go home,” Rivers told Simmons.

Simmons dropped the basketball and walked straight out to leave the building, sources said.

Simmons has mentally checked out of Philadelphia, as The Athletic has reported for some time, but now that the All-Defensive stalwart is back in the city around the franchise, tensions have risen. In Simmons’ first meeting with team personnel last week, a meeting that included Rivers, president of basketball operations Daryl Morey and general manager Elton Brand, sources said Simmons reiterated that he was not mentally ready to rejoin the team after the past several months. The past several months, of course, included Rivers and Joel Embiid criticizing him after the Game 7 loss to the Atlanta Hawks. Rivers, Morey and Brand asked Simmons to be present, expecting the situation to be back to normal, but it still isn’t.

Sixers officials said Simmons will be welcomed back at the team’s next practice, tentatively scheduled for Thursday, and they are hoping for him to have a better disposition. After practice on Tuesday, Rivers said, “Every single moment, I’m gonna give Ben a chance to join the team and be part of the team. He’s under contract to be part of the team. And so that’s not going to change.”

How the lingering Simmons situation affects the Sixers’ team dynamic remains an open question. Sixers sources say that Rivers has had the rest of the roster on the same page throughout camp under the leadership of Embiid, Tobias Harris, Danny Green and others. After practice, Embiid confirmed that he had not talked to Simmons since he returned to the team.

“I mean, I’m trying to win, and to win, you gotta have that relationship with your teammates,” Embiid said. “I do have that relationship with all my teammates. But, you know, at the end of the day, our job is not to babysit somebody. We get paid to produce on the court, go out, play hard and win some games. That’s what we get paid for. We don’t get paid to come out here and try to babysit somebody.”

Simmons has lost upwards of $1 million in fine money for missing preseason games, practices and team activities so far. Simmons has four years and $147 million remaining on his maximum contract. It’s clear around the league: The 76ers are attempting to try to use any amount of leverage now that Simmons has returned to Philadelphia.

The 76ers are not trying to move Simmons and have made clear that they will not deal him at this time, according to sources. The franchise wants Simmons to show up to practices and games, to be engaged and to perform to his capabilities. Simmons is not against playing, but he is not mentally ready yet, sources insist.