Trade Ben Simmons poll (1 Viewer)

[Minstrel]

Kawhi Leonard obviously never had an incident quite like Simmons just did, but there were reports/rumors that Leonard, at the behest of his uncle, was faking concern over his injury (that team doctors said was healed) in order to hold out and force a trade. It created ill will within the Spurs franchise and Popovich was obviously frustrated and angry.

Players use whatever leverage they can when they feel that their relationship to their current franchise has run its course. Teams do the same thing when they can and no longer want a player. It's a business, not a family.

 

[Scalma]

And Kawhi forced his way out and then promptly left to LA. We're right and you can tell by the number of votes our comments are getting compared to the tumbleweed blowing through your zero likes comments.

4,000 posts, 600 likes. Looks like you're wrong a lot huh?

 

[Idog1976]

4,000 posts, 600 likes. Looks like you're wrong a lot huh?

Fair point turns out people can be wrong, like 31,000 times upvoting someone who comments like you have throughout this thread.

 

[illmatic99]

i listened to it, was a cringeworthy take from a has-been reporter. it's interesting because she has reported heavily on guys' mental health in the past and you'd think she'd be more sensitive.

they also dedicated a few minutes to our supposedly disastrous preseason. Both admitted they didn't watch a single minute nor did they listen to Billups at all but found it alarming that Simons was our leading scorer.

what a joke.

 

[TBpup]

i listened to it, was a cringeworthy take from a has-been reporter. it's interesting because she has reported heavily on guys' mental health in the past and you'd think she'd be more sensitive.

they also dedicated a few minutes to our supposedly disastrous preseason. Both admitted they didn't watch a single minute nor did they listen to Billups at all but found it alarming that Simons was our leading scorer.

what a joke.

Clueless journalists reporting on something they have no idea about or are biased towards? The hell you say....

 

[SharpesTriumph]

It’s professional sports, he signed a contract, Simmons only cares about getting out at all cost right now. if the Sixers are going to insist on holding on to him for a better trade, he is better off playing and playing well so he gets out of there faster

That's not what other players from Kawhi to Anthony Davis to Melo to Vince Carter have done.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Lol

 

[Rastapopoulos]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVObETNhcBO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

 

[Rastapopoulos]

That's an odd fit in Toronto with Scottie Barnes. Great defense but can you afford to have two of your best players be non-shooters?

 

[Natebishop3]

Kawhi was already a champion and a Finals MVP. Simmons ain’t Kawhi.

I would like to point out that the number of times Kawhi hasn’t stepped up and led his team far outnumbers the one time that he did. And that team had Lowry as the real leader of the squad. Hot take - Kawhi isn’t a true number one. He can’t lead a team. He didn’t with the spurs when Duncan retired and he hasn’t in LA.

 

[Strenuus]

I would like to point out that the number of times Kawhi hasn’t stepped up and led his team far outnumbers the one time that he did. And that team had Lowry as the real leader of the squad. Hot take - Kawhi isn’t a true number one. He can’t lead a team. He didn’t with the spurs when Duncan retired and he hasn’t in LA.

That's not a hot take that is a correct take.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That's an odd fit in Toronto with Scottie Barnes. Great defense but can you afford to have two of your best players be non-shooters?

Anunoby is arguably Toronto's best player. IMO, he should be the odds-on favorite for MIP this year. I don't see them dealing him for Simmons.

 

[Blazer509]

To show your next employee you are loyal?

Lol Boomers.

I’m just giving you a hard time. I’m jk.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Anunoby is arguably Toronto's best player. IMO, he should be the odds-on favorite for MIP this year. I don't see them dealing him for Simmons.

It sure would be funny if Morey sent him packing not just nowhere near the west coast but completely out of the country.

 

[Blazer509]

I just switched jobs in May. I gave my two week notice and worked like a dog those last two weeks with 13 hr days to complete a project that had a deadline upcoming. I did it to maintain my professional relationship and not burn bridges.

My supervisor's reaction was of complete indifference. While my colleagues appreciated the work I did, at the end of the day, I was simply a number to the organization and my feeling of myself being hard to replace was misguided.

Welcome to corporate America.

Hmmm sounds familiar to a concept that I’ve read in the commie manual.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Lol Boomers.

I’m just giving you a hard time. I’m jk.

you retired?

 

[sheed30]

That's not what other players from Kawhi to Anthony Davis to Melo to Vince Carter have done.

Um completely different, in that those names you mentioned got traded in the summer or mid season after they voiced they wanted out, and a good bit of them still PLAYED after voicing they want a trade.

I'm going to break it down for you, each example presents a different scenario that isn't close to this Simmons situation.

Vince Carter, actually is a perfect example my friend, actually you bringing him up actually helps my case. Go do your homework, Vince asked for a trade in the summer of 2004, and never got traded that summer!! He showed up and PLAYED 20 games that season for the Raptors before he got traded to the Nets. LOL man you guys just kept looking more and more silly.

Melo was traded mid season and was disgruntled before he got traded but still PLAYED until he got traded!

Kawhi was traded in the offseason, Simmons wasn't. Kawhi was also going to be a free agent the next summer so he told Spurs he wasn't going to resign, different scenario.

Davis only had one more year on his contract when he asked for a trade, he was going to be a free agent the next summer so the Pelicans where at risk of losing him for nothing the next off season since Davis made it clear he wasn't going to resign. Simmons has 4 years left on his contract, once again, do your homework bro. Different scenarios.

You want some more examples.

Look at Harden last year, requested out in the summer, didn’t get traded and ended up PLAYING 8 games for Houston before he was traded.

You want another example, remember when Kobe wanted out, asked for a trade in the summer, the Lakers never traded him, and guess what he showed up and PLAYED, they got Gasol that season and the rest is history.

I can play that game too.

The few on here defending Simmons are the only people I have seen come to Simmons defense, social media, Sixer’s local media and fans, NBA fans, former players on TV, they all say Simmons is in the wrong right now, even though so are the Sixers.

Both are to blame and you can’t deny it’s a bad look on Simmons at this moment.

 

[sheed30]

The difference is the Sixers FO has zero to do with the Blazers other than Morey ACTIVELY HURTING THE BLAZERS by refusing a reasonable trade for Simmons. Simmons could help the Blazers were he on our team, quite a lot actually. Also, Simmons didn't go out in the media and air dirty laundry, Rivers and Embiid both did. Nothing the Sixers FO is doing impacts the Blazers at all in terms of them extracting top value helping our team. In fact, the opposite is true. They are bargaining in bad faith based on all reports and constantly floating Dame as a trade idea, which FUCK THEM, ain't gonna happen. There is a trade(s) available that helps both teams, but Morey refuses because he wants to skin the Blazers alive, not just come out with good value. How anyone is on Morey's side is what blows my mind and does anyone truly think we can get any player approaching Simmons caliber other than by trading CJ + assets? What Morey is asking for is more than Simmons value, PERIOD. That's the issue. I don't care at all how Simmons is behaving because we've seen variants of this many times by now AD, Kawhi and Harden all spring to mind. Simmons was loyal and played hard (yes he made a huge mistake in the playoffs, but how is CJ stepping out of bounds any different?) despite being on the block for a full year. Then when he most needed the support of his coach and fellow star they chummed the waters for their toxic fan base. People seem to ignore all that to demonize Simmons, who again, is in NO WAY harming Portland. Morey helped push and float Dame rumors all summer and fan the flames there, he's ACTIVELY hurt our team, MOREY is the enemy, not Simmons.

it's only you and a little crew of Simmons fans that think Morey is actively hurting the blazers, thanks for the laughs. And you want to mention AD, Kawi, Harden...I actually can show you more cases where your wrong, just see my other post.

 

[Idog1976]

it's only you and a little crew of Simmons fans that think Morey is actively hurting the blazers, thanks for the laughs. And you want to mention AD, Kawi, Harden...I actually can show you more cases where your wrong, just see my other post.

The poll at the beginning says otherwise.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

The poll at the beginning says otherwise.

Actually it doesn't. Most would give no more for Simmons than CJ and many don't want him at all.

 

[tlongII]

I would like to point out that the number of times Kawhi hasn’t stepped up and led his team far outnumbers the one time that he did. And that team had Lowry as the real leader of the squad. Hot take - Kawhi isn’t a true number one. He can’t lead a team. He didn’t with the spurs when Duncan retired and he hasn’t in LA.

I would like to point out that the number of times Kawhi DID step up far outnumber the number of times that Simmons did.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Um completely different, in that those names you mentioned got traded in the summer or mid season after they voiced they wanted out, and a good bit of them still PLAYED after voicing they want a trade.

I'm going to break it down for you, each example presents a different scenario that isn't close to this Simmons situation.

Vince Carter, actually is a perfect example my friend, actually you bringing him up actually helps my case. Go do your homework, Vince asked for a trade in the summer of 2004, and never got traded that summer!! He showed up and PLAYED 20 games that season for the Raptors before he got traded to the Nets. LOL man you guys just kept looking more and more silly.

Melo was traded mid season and was disgruntled before he got traded but still PLAYED until he got traded!

Kawhi was traded in the offseason, Simmons wasn't. Kawhi was also going to be a free agent the next summer so he told Spurs he wasn't going to resign, different scenario.

Davis only had one more year on his contract when he asked for a trade, he was going to be a free agent the next summer so the Pelicans where at risk of losing him for nothing the next off season since Davis made it clear he wasn't going to resign. Simmons has 4 years left on his contract, once again, do your homework bro. Different scenarios.

You want some more examples.

Look at Harden last year, requested out in the summer, didn’t get traded and ended up PLAYING 8 games for Houston before he was traded.

You want another example, remember when Kobe wanted out, asked for a trade in the summer, the Lakers never traded him, and guess what he showed up and PLAYED, they got Gasol that season and the rest is history.

I can play that game too.

The few on here defending Simmons are the only people I have seen come to Simmons defesee, social media, Sixer’s local media and fans, NBA fans, former players on TV, they all say Simmons is in the wrong right now, even though so are the Sixers.

Both are to blame and you can’t deny it’s a bad look on Simmons at this moment.

Kawhi was traded in offseason as you said. Simmons ASKED to be. Simmons asked for a trade in June. That was plenty of time to trade him. Not his fault Sixers didn’t trade him. Carter is a horrible example because he totally sandbagged and PLAYED (as you put it) badly. On purpose. AD sat out games. Harden played one good game to show he could play and then sandbagged it.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

I have no love for Morey or the way he is handling this situation. OTOH, I think it is just a tad paranoid to say he is hurting the Blazers. We have no more "right" to trade for Simmons than any other team. Any team that has an interest in Simmons is in the same boat we are.

 

[calvin natt]

I have no love for Morey or the way he is handling this situation. OTOH, I think it is just a tad paranoid to say he is hurting the Blazers. We have no more "right" to trade for Simmons than any other team. Any team that has an interest in Simmons is in the same boat we are.

It’s so unlike Blazer fans to take things so personally!

 

[Buffalo Custard]

Kawhi was traded in offseason as you said. Simmons ASKED to be. Simmons asked for a trade in June. That was plenty of time to trade him. Not his fault Sixers didn’t trade him. Carter is a horrible example because he totally sandbagged and PLAYED (as you put it) badly. On purpose. AD sat out games. Harden played one good game to show he could play and then sandbagged it.

Just curious, but do contracts mean anything to you? Do the 6ers deserve anything in return for their huge financial investment?

 

[blazerkor]

I think ESPN Insider should use their considerable influence and make this trade happen right now.

 

[calvin natt]

I think ESPN Insider should use their considerable influence and make this trade happen right now.

Don’t think it happens. Philly wants a star and CJ isn’t on their list.

 

[blazerkor]

Don’t think it happens. Philly wants a star and CJ isn’t on their list.

There was a report just a few days ago that said they offered Simmons for CJ and a bunch of draft assets. We turned it down. So I'd say he's on their list.

 

[calvin natt]

There was a report just a few days ago that said they offered Simmons for CJ and a bunch of draft assets. We turned it down. So I'd say he's on their list.

Oh and reports are always true

 

[tester551]

There was a report just a few days ago that said they offered Simmons for CJ and a bunch of draft assets. We turned it down. So I'd say he's on their list.

I missed that one. Can you provide a link?
What constitutes a 'bunch of draft assets'?