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  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 30 88.2%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 4 11.8%

  • Total voters
    34
The individual first. Collectivism only when there's a massive compelling interest.

As little government as we need and nothing more.
A wonderful dream but do you REALLY think either party is EVER going to take their hands out of our pockets? Andrew Jackson is long dead and gone, Donnie be damned......
 
As little government as we need and nothing more.

Any decrease in government power is filled by an increase in employer power. Political system + economic system = a constant K. Conservation of power. Isaac Newton under the apple tree.
 
A wonderful dream but do you REALLY think either party is EVER going to take their hands out of our pockets? Andrew Jackson is long dead and gone, Donnie be damned......

No. I don't vote for "either party" for that reason.
 
Any decrease in government power is filled by an increase in employer power. Political system + economic system = a constant K. Conservation of power. Isaac Newton under the apple tree.

Separation of church and state. Separation of economy and state. Separation of corporations and state.

The constant K stuff is nonsense.
 
The constant K stuff is nonsense.

So is the illusion that you can minimize the power exerted on you, added up from all sources. The only way is to be a hermit. Try it. You'll like it.
 
So is the illusion that you can minimize the power exerted on you, added up from all sources. The only way is to be a hermit. Try it. You'll like it.

Most of the power exerted on me, by far, is government.
 
Most of the power exerted on me, by far, is government.

Because the 1% have no boss. Of course you want unlimited freedom at our expense. I understand; I'm selfish sometimes too, but I restrain it when I form my beliefs. Find a system that's best for humanity, not just yourself.
 
Because the 1% have no boss. Of course you want unlimited freedom at our expense. I understand; I'm selfish sometimes too, but I restrain it when I form my beliefs. Find a system that's best for humanity, not just yourself.

It is best for humanity if I am no drain on everyone else.
 
Your grandma's story is that she thought an Indian was a Frenchman? Oui oui!

There probably weren't a lot of Frenchies in Rural Southern Oregon at that time so maybe should she could have actually made that mistake, lol.
 
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