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LOL! Seriously Mags, that's not even close to being the truth.
It's absolutely the truth. Socialism is the redistribution of wealth equally among the people. Democracy, especially in this country, promotes freedom and liberty. How can one be free if a government controls your wealth?
 
Sanders is becoming '08 Obama in that if anyone says anything slightly critical or negative about him people lose their shit.
 
It's absolutely the truth. Socialism is the redistribution of wealth equally among the people. Democracy, especially in this country, promotes freedom and liberty. How can one be free if a government controls your wealth?

Social democracy is a political ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a capitalist economy.

Contemporary social democracy emerged in the post-war era. In this period, social democrats embraced the idea of reforming capitalism and rejected the goal of replacing capitalism with socialism. Social democrats embraced a mixed economy based on the predominance of private property, with only a small number of utilities and essential public services under public ownership.

Modern social democracy is defined by its commitment to constitutional and representative democracy under the rule of law.
 
Social democracy is a political ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a capitalist economy.

Contemporary social democracy emerged in the post-war era. In this period, social democrats embraced the idea of reforming capitalism and rejected the goal of replacing capitalism with socialism. Social democrats embraced a mixed economy based on the predominance of private property, with only a small number of utilities and essential public services under public ownership.

Modern social democracy is defined by its commitment to constitutional and representative democracy under the rule of law.
Let me ask you again. "Are you truly "free" if a government controls your wealth?" Yes or no?
 
Let me ask you again. "Are you truly "free" if a government controls your wealth?" Yes or no?

The government doesn't control your wealth in a social democracy.

Forbes released a list of best countries for business. #1 on the list, Denmark.
 
The government doesn't control your wealth in a social democracy.

Forbes released a list of best countries for business. #1 on the list, Denmark.
Wrong... They not only control your wealth, by taxing middle class 50-70% of their income and taxing at a 49% of the country's GDP. They are the world leaders in strict immigration.
 
America was great. Now it's a bunch of pussies getting PTSD from the color blue and people claiming they're some made up gender/sexuality.

We are lacking testicular fortitude.. especially out here in the west coast.

The government doesn't control your wealth in a social democracy.

Forbes released a list of best countries for business. #1 on the list, Denmark.

Come on Sly, stop the bull! It matter not who controls the property if the profits earned are controlled (taxed at the whim of the have not voters and their shills) by the government.

When a persons earnings are tapped at what ever rate pleases the masses, you can't get more socialist than this. You see it all the time on this board, calling for higher taxes on those that earn the money. They want and vote for the person that say he will do it to the fat cats. What the hell else does Sanders have? He wants to take 90% and the people cheer!

What the hell, this country was not founded that way, the income tax was not even envisioned that way, 1 to 7%. It didn't take long though for the have nots to idolize the leader that proposed to take more and Give it to them. Hallelujah, we have the power!
 
Come on Sly, stop the bull! It matter not who controls the property if the profits earned are controlled (taxed at the whim of the have not voters and their shills) by the government.

When a persons earnings are tapped at what ever rate pleases the masses, you can't get more socialist than this. You see it all the time on this board, calling for higher taxes on those that earn the money. They want and vote for the person that say he will do it to the fat cats. What the hell else does Sanders have? He wants to take 90% and the people cheer!

What the hell, this country was not founded that way, the income tax was not even envisioned that way, 1 to 7%. It didn't take long though for the have nots to idolize the leader that proposed to take more and Give it to them. Hallelujah, we have the power!
But the thing is with campaigns, nobody is cheering...wolf has been cried too many times..we're numb when they say they'll trickle down earnings from the ultra wealthy or bring factories back here that we'll supply the labor for or that we'll stop sending troops to every trouble spot on the planet to police democracy. They always say these things...the trick with voting is too eliminate the worst of the lot at any cost. That's what this election means to me. It's not a job that attracts talent so we're left with a really poor field to choose from..
 
But the thing is with campaigns, nobody is cheering...wolf has been cried too many times..we're numb when they say they'll trickle down earnings from the ultra wealthy or bring factories back here that we'll supply the labor for or that we'll stop sending troops to every trouble spot on the planet to police democracy. They always say these things...the trick with voting is too eliminate the worst of the lot at any cost. That's what this election means to me. It's not a job that attracts talent so we're left with a really poor field to choose from..

I almost never want to hear a President speak of Democracy again. We don't really have it here and I have no desire to make others use it. The the jobs are simple, they come here when this is the best place to do the work and the best place to make a profit with the least tax. If that is not here, then the jobs will go where this criterion in true. Gone are the day when you can make a business man dance to the panders tune, when someone else likes his groove too.

There was a time when this didn't happen so callously, when we were a nation together, but we have been segregated, separated and classified by design for control. Now you see the result,
no longer one people, no longer together, no longer supportive of each other. Many palms out.
 

A few things on that. The people in those tweets don't know what they're talking about. Student loans are one of the few things that can't go thru a bankruptcy, that means they are better than a collateral loan. Collateral depreciates, student loans only continue to rake up interest until they are paid.

Also, the big complaint is federal student loans were 3%, congress allowed them to be raised them to 6%. Keep them at 3%.
 
HuffPost

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-g...bernie-sanders-surpass-hillary_b_8310326.html

Simply answering questions without being able to dodge contentious issues doesn't account for a win, nor does it make a candidate "presidential," "polished" or poised. The standard in American politics has been set lower than ever before, especially when a candidate's correspondents are being investigated by the FBI and other intelligence agencies, yet some observers declare this person a winner. Hillary Clinton did a good job of remaining confident during heated exchanges, however the questions themselves were indicative of why Bernie Sanders was the clear victor.

Fortunately for Clinton, Bernie Sanders refused to address the FBI's investigation of her emails. This allowed the former Secretary of State to miraculously circumvent relevant questions about Russia-linked hackers who tried to access Clinton's private server.

There used to be a time when Russia-linked hackers were bad for a presidential campaign, but alas, this is 2015 and everything is relative. To some voters, the Pentagon gets hacked, so who cares if Clinton used a private server?

As for character, yes, one candidate was confident amidst perpetual scandal, which endeared her to a base longing for some semblance of humanity in their presidential hopeful.

Bernie Sanders, however, did something unprecedented in American politics. While Hillary Clinton wasted no time in trying to make Sanders look like Ted Nugent on gun control, the Vermont Senator took the high road on emails.

Hillary Clinton was given an early Christmas present and was allowed to escape five to ten minutes of tense questioning about private servers and decision making.

Only poor Lincoln Chafee dared mention that he was scandal-free and ethical; we know why he stated those words. In a bizarre version of collective amnesia, nobody mentioned the Clinton Foundation weapons deal controversy. The Huffington Post explains that, "Even by the standards of arms deals between the United States and Saudi Arabia, this one was enormous."
 
A few things on that. The people in those tweets don't know what they're talking about. Student loans are one of the few things that can't go thru a bankruptcy, that means they are better than a collateral loan. Collateral depreciates, student loans only continue to rake up interest until they are paid.

Also, the big complaint is federal student loans were 3%, congress allowed them to be raised them to 6%. Keep them at 3%.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/31/us-usa-studentloans-rates-idUSBRE96U1G220130731

2013

Congress finally votes to cut student loan interest rates

U.S. college students will likely pay a reduced interest rate of 3.86 percent on their student loans for the new school year, after lawmakers on Wednesday finally passed a compromise bill that would reverse a recent rate hike.

The House of Representatives voted 392-31 in support of a bipartisan deal to lower interest rates on millions of new federal student loans. The Senate passed the bill on July 24 and President Barack Obama is expected to sign it into law.

The action followed months of partisan bickering, with Democrats and Republicans blaming each other for a politically embarrassing delay that had the potential to cost students and their parents thousands of dollars.

The legislation replaces a system in which Congress fixed interest rates every year and substitutes it with a market-based mechanism tied to the government's cost of borrowing and capped to protect borrowers in the event of a severe spike in rates.

The legislation passed just two days before Congress recesses for five weeks, after several failed efforts in the House and Senate.

Interest rates on student loans automatically doubled on July 1 to 6.8 percent after Congress failed to meet the deadline to prevent the rate increase. Congress has since incorporated a retroactive fix that would keep borrowers of loans originated since July 1 when rates had doubled from paying the higher rate.

The measure passed Wednesday pegs interest rates on student loans to the 10-year Treasury note plus 2.05 percentage points for undergraduates, and plus 3.6 percentage points for graduate student loans.

The interest rate would roughly work out to 3.86 percent this year for undergraduates and 5.42 percent for graduates.
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/31/us-usa-studentloans-rates-idUSBRE96U1G220130731

2013

Congress finally votes to cut student loan interest rates

U.S. college students will likely pay a reduced interest rate of 3.86 percent on their student loans for the new school year, after lawmakers on Wednesday finally passed a compromise bill that would reverse a recent rate hike.

The House of Representatives voted 392-31 in support of a bipartisan deal to lower interest rates on millions of new federal student loans. The Senate passed the bill on July 24 and President Barack Obama is expected to sign it into law.

The action followed months of partisan bickering, with Democrats and Republicans blaming each other for a politically embarrassing delay that had the potential to cost students and their parents thousands of dollars.

The legislation replaces a system in which Congress fixed interest rates every year and substitutes it with a market-based mechanism tied to the government's cost of borrowing and capped to protect borrowers in the event of a severe spike in rates.

The legislation passed just two days before Congress recesses for five weeks, after several failed efforts in the House and Senate.

Interest rates on student loans automatically doubled on July 1 to 6.8 percent after Congress failed to meet the deadline to prevent the rate increase. Congress has since incorporated a retroactive fix that would keep borrowers of loans originated since July 1 when rates had doubled from paying the higher rate.

The measure passed Wednesday pegs interest rates on student loans to the 10-year Treasury note plus 2.05 percentage points for undergraduates, and plus 3.6 percentage points for graduate student loans.

The interest rate would roughly work out to 3.86 percent this year for undergraduates and 5.42 percent for graduates.

I see that but the rates have since gone up from there.

https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/about/announcements/interest-rate

IMO, they should be 3%, for students, parents and graduates.
 
The Office of Personnel Management was recently hacked, and also the Oregon DMV.

The government of China was suspected in both. Nobody is safe.
 
If Bernie even slightly reminds you of Lenin...Trump would be a slave in Siberia or dead by now...what a stupid, sensationalized comparison! You should brush up on Soviet history..
And don't worry Mags! Bernie is saving a spot just for you in his gulag.....you can bunk with The Donald and share his gruel.....
 

They need Swedish Trump to build them a wall.

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Sanders Promises To Raise Taxes On All Americans – PERIOD!
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) told George Stephanopoulos on Sunday’s This Week that he would raise taxes on all Americans to pay for the social programs he hope to implement if elected president.

“If we’re going to make public colleges and universities tuition-free as we have to do in the 21st century. yeah we are going to have a tax on Wall Street speculation and ask Trump and his billionaire friends to pay more taxes,” Sanders said.

Trump has already agreed in his published economic policy: Click here for full details.

“When the income tax was first introduced, just one percent of Americans had to pay it. It was never intended as a tax most Americans would pay. The Trump plan eliminates the income tax for over 73 million households. 42 million households that currently file complex forms to determine they don’t owe any income taxes will now file a one page form saving them time, stress, uncertainty and an average of $110 in preparation costs. Over 31 million households get the same simplification and keep on average nearly $1,000 of their hard-earned money.”

For those Americans who will still pay the income tax, the tax rates will go from the current seven brackets to four simpler, fairer brackets that eliminate the marriage penalty and the AMT while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II:

Income Tax Rate Single Filers Married Filers
0% 0% $0 to $25,000 $0 to $50,000
10% 0% $25,001 to $50,000 $50,001 to $100,000
20% 15% $50,001 to $150,000 $100,001 to $300,000
25% 20% $150,001 and up $300,001 and up

Anyway, back to Bernie…

Billionaires are not the only ones. Sanders wants to increase the tax burden on, he also suggested that in order to pay for paid family and medical leave, all Americans would have to pay more to the government in the form of an increased payroll tax.

“I think if you are looking about guaranteeing paid family and medical leave which every other major country has so that when a mom gives birth she doesn’t have to go back to work in two weeks or an illness in a family, dad or mom can stay home with the kids. That will require a small increase in the payroll tax,” Sanders said.

“Small increase!” Where have we heard that before?

Stephanopoulos got Sanders to admit that an increased payroll tax “would hit everybody.”

Continuing a major theme from his debate performance on Tuesday, Sanders pointed to other countries as a model for the economic terrorism he would like to bring to America.


On the flipside, this interview from this morning explains more on Trumps economic plan and other issues:
 
Sanders Promises To Raise Taxes On All Americans – PERIOD!
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) told George Stephanopoulos on Sunday’s This Week that he would raise taxes on all Americans to pay for the social programs he hope to implement if elected president.

“If we’re going to make public colleges and universities tuition-free as we have to do in the 21st century. yeah we are going to have a tax on Wall Street speculation and ask Trump and his billionaire friends to pay more taxes,” Sanders said.

Trump has already agreed in his published economic policy: Click here for full details.

“When the income tax was first introduced, just one percent of Americans had to pay it. It was never intended as a tax most Americans would pay. The Trump plan eliminates the income tax for over 73 million households. 42 million households that currently file complex forms to determine they don’t owe any income taxes will now file a one page form saving them time, stress, uncertainty and an average of $110 in preparation costs. Over 31 million households get the same simplification and keep on average nearly $1,000 of their hard-earned money.”

For those Americans who will still pay the income tax, the tax rates will go from the current seven brackets to four simpler, fairer brackets that eliminate the marriage penalty and the AMT while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II:

Income Tax Rate Single Filers Married Filers
0% 0% $0 to $25,000 $0 to $50,000
10% 0% $25,001 to $50,000 $50,001 to $100,000
20% 15% $50,001 to $150,000 $100,001 to $300,000
25% 20% $150,001 and up $300,001 and up

Anyway, back to Bernie…

Billionaires are not the only ones. Sanders wants to increase the tax burden on, he also suggested that in order to pay for paid family and medical leave, all Americans would have to pay more to the government in the form of an increased payroll tax.

“I think if you are looking about guaranteeing paid family and medical leave which every other major country has so that when a mom gives birth she doesn’t have to go back to work in two weeks or an illness in a family, dad or mom can stay home with the kids. That will require a small increase in the payroll tax,” Sanders said.

“Small increase!” Where have we heard that before?

Stephanopoulos got Sanders to admit that an increased payroll tax “would hit everybody.”

Continuing a major theme from his debate performance on Tuesday, Sanders pointed to other countries as a model for the economic terrorism he would like to bring to America.


On the flipside, this interview from this morning explains more on Trumps economic plan and other issues:

TellyMeow?
 

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