Bernie seems like a guy from another planet!

[MarAzul]

Watching him tonight debate Clinton, I often had that feeling.
How the hell did that guy come up with that thought.
How the hell did that guy come up with that phrase.

Like when he said White people do not understand what it is like to be poor and black.

Its like it is spelled poorandblack.
They are more poor white people that there are poor black people but no one ever says
Black people do not understand what it's like to be poor and white. I suppose it would not be effective pandering. But then, the black people don't seem to vote for him either, so???

At another point he said he wanted to Tax Energy to the hilt or max or something. This to fund
clean energy investment. Has the guy no clue how devastating this would be to the poor of all kinds?

Another time he said he wanted to make sure I was held accountable for his grand children and he would be
responsible for mine! We are all in this together!!! Fuck!!! No way dude, read the damn Constitution!

 

[barfo]

We are all in this together!!! Fuck!!! No way dude, read the damn Constitution!

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, do ordain and establish that it is every man for himself, and let the devil take the hindmost!

barfo

 

[VanillaGorilla]

#FeelTheBern

 

[MarAzul]

ordain and establish that it is every man for himself

Yep! Not one of those old boys that had input into that document had even a stray thought of Collectivism.

Bernie doesn't even couch it. Probably brushed up on the system while on honeymoon.

 

[blue32]

Bernie makes me sick. It's okay though he won't win and that's damn okay with me. Nothing worse than some old dumb politician wanting to give everyone's money to the general pop under the guise that the "government will take care of you" LOL

 

[MarAzul]

some old dumb politician wanting to give everyone's money to the general pop under the guise that the "government will take care of you"

It is rather humorous to watch him up there, spouting Collectivism just like he were Karl Marx or Lenin. Then watch the dems applaud like the man is a new prophet, never suspecting it is the same old schtick.

 

[Jade Falcon]

It is rather humorous to watch him up there, spouting Collectivism just like he were Karl Marx or Lenin. Then watch the dems applaud like the man is a new prophet, never suspecting it is the same old schtick.

"I'll give you free things! I mean, we'll raise taxes to do it....but just pretend we're raising it on that evil One Percent."

"Don't wanna pay higher taxes to fund my bullshit plans, which are completely outlandish and unreasonable? Well, tough shit. Your money should go for shit you don't want; like my bigger government, which I'll use to control your healthcare and education. Because I know better than you what's best for you."

"Just pretend it's for the betterment of the country."

Sanders is an absolute disgrace. How people like him ever got to office in the first place absolutely astounds me.

 

[MARIS61]

Bernie makes me sick. It's okay though he won't win and that's damn okay with me. Nothing worse than some old dumb politician wanting to give everyone's money to the general pop under the guise that the "government will take care of you" LOL

Well, if it's everyone's money as you say it is and we're all the general pop it's all good right?

 

[jlprk]

Sanders is an absolute disgrace. How people like him ever got to office in the first place absolutely astounds me.

You righties need to watch the latest Michael Moore movie, "Where to Invade Next". I did so 2 days ago. It's in limited showings for a few days, then it's too late. In Oregon, it's in Portland, Ashland, Corvallis, Eugene, Florence, and Salem.

http://wheretoinvadenext.com/
Click "See the Film" to see the list of theaters.

He visits several countries in Europe, interviewing people about how their systems so easily pay for their socialist benefits. Everyone, including business owners, thinks they have a great system. He answers them with the reasons you Republicans always give for why people shouldn't be allowed to be happy, and everyone in Europe, including business owners, poo poos your conservative reasons.

 

[Natebishop3]

"I'll give you free things! I mean, we'll raise taxes to do it....but just pretend we're raising it on that evil One Percent."

"Don't wanna pay higher taxes to fund my bullshit plans, which are completely outlandish and unreasonable? Well, tough shit. Your money should go for shit you don't want; like my bigger government, which I'll use to control your healthcare and education. Because I know better than you what's best for you."

"Just pretend it's for the betterment of the country."

Sanders is an absolute disgrace. How people like him ever got to office in the first place absolutely astounds me.

I mean.... I personally don't believe that the government should take care of us, but we spend trillions of dollars on the military. I can understand why some people would rather spend that money on improving our education, healthcare, and economy.

 

[jlprk]

Bernie seems like a guy from another continent!

The U.S would be a modern European country if not for our fascist South.

 

[Jade Falcon]

You righties need to watch the latest Michael Moore movie, "Where to Invade Next". I did so 2 days ago. It's in limited showings for a few days, then it's too late. In Oregon, it's in Portland, Ashland, Corvallis, Eugene, Florence, and Salem.

http://wheretoinvadenext.com/
Click "See the Film" to see the list of theaters.

He visits several countries in Europe, interviewing people about how their systems so easily pay for their socialist benefits. Everyone, including business owners, thinks they have a great system. He answers them with the reasons you Republicans always give for why people shouldn't be allowed to be happy, and everyone in Europe, including business owners, poo poos your conservative reasons.

LMFAO. Wow. You are honestly trying to play Michael Moore here? This is the same asshole who blamed Charlton Heston for Columbine. Yeah, forgive me if I don't take you seriously.

I mean.... I personally don't believe that the government should take care of us, but we spend trillions of dollars on the military. I can understand why some people would rather spend that money on improving our education, healthcare, and economy.

Have you seen other countries, who are not exactly friendly to us, flexing their muscles around the world the past two years? Russia, China, Iran, North Korea......

Yeah, I'll take our powerful military, thank you. Give it all the money it can take.

Bernie seems like a guy from another continent!

The U.S would be a modern European country if not for our fascist South.

LMAO, that's rich. Like some pussy Democrat would know anything about what the South is like, except what Michael "Is that a doughnut?" Moore tells him.

 

[jlprk]

I've been there. The South is another world. Many memories of traveling through there. Some New Orleans girl accosts me, I'm flattered, and all she wants to talk about is how awful black people are. In Alabama, the black servant trails behind the woman employing him, with a permanent fake smile. On and on. Lots of memories.

Which way do I travel through the South?
FAST.

 

[Jade Falcon]

I've been there. The South is another world. Many memories of traveling through there. Some New Orleans girl accosts me, I'm flattered, and all she wants to talk about is how awful black people are. In Alabama, the black servant trails behind the woman employing him, with a permanent fake smile. On and on. Lots of memories.

Which way do I travel through the South?
FAST.

So what...you take one experience and call it on what the South is like as a whole?

What's next? Gonna call all Catholic Priests pedophiles too? Or Subway spokesmen?

 

[jlprk]

Many experiences. Anyway, see the movie and you'll see that Bernie's more like from Europe than another planet.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Many experiences. Anyway, see the movie and you'll see that Bernie's more like from Europe than another planet.

Sorry, but I don't take Moore seriously about ANYTHING. Nor Sanders. They're both bat-shit crazy.

But thank you for the offer. For what it's worth.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

#FEELTHEBERN

I love Bernie.

 

[jlprk]

Sorry, but I don't take Moore seriously about ANYTHING. Nor Sanders. They're both bat-shit crazy.

But thank you for the offer. For what it's worth.

You're welcome. Michael tells me that he wants you to see the movie with him. Special screening. You game?

 

[Denny Crane]

Many experiences. Anyway, see the movie and you'll see that Bernie's more like from Europe than another planet.

He's free to go and stay there. Tell him not to let the door hit him in the fanny on his way out. He can take the 1%er Michael Moore with him.

 

[blue32]

Well, if it's everyone's money as you say it is and we're all the general pop it's all good right?

Hah, Except it goes through the Government coffers first.... Remember they're going to take care of US, each and every one of us, we're all special snowflakes remember?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i find it ridiculous to suggest that only the pants pissing war luvin' fake christian freedom bleeding high school dropout 'merrica crowd has a grasp on what our tax dollars should go to. i mean shit.

 

[Natebishop3]

i find it ridiculous to suggest that only the pants pissing war luvin' fake christian freedom bleeding high school dropout 'merrica crowd has a grasp on what our tax dollars should go to. i mean shit.

I find it interesting because our military budget is astronomically high, but I would be interested in learning what that budget would be if we:

A) Stopped paying out contracts to companies that don't deliver/are delinquent.

B) Stopped wasting supplies (I have a friend who worked in supply/logistics during the Iraq War and he said they were just throwing away expensive shit as units left to return home.)

C) Stopped fighting wars that don't involve us.

The military industrial complex is a hell of a drug, and I don't think we should cut military by too much, but this isn't the cold war and I would love to see some legitimate reasons for why we need to be the world's police.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

the disconnect really is...

"why should we trust the incompetent government with our tax dollars and expect them to take care of us?"

and

"we should give the government our tax dollars for the military so they can take care of us"

they want it both ways

 

[Natebishop3]

the disconnect really is...

"why should we trust the incompetent government with our tax dollars and expect them to take care of us?"

and

"we should give the government our tax dollars for the military so they can take care of us"

they want it both ways

Yup... but we have been brain washed from a young age that the American military stands for truth and justice and protects the weak. So we HAVE to have the strongest military. We love to watch our boys fuck up some third world military on CNN.

We aren't taught about how our government helped fuck up the Middle East, or South America. We aren't taught about how our government has used our military to impose our economic and political interests throughout the world.

 

[Jade Falcon]

I find it interesting because our military budget is astronomically high, but I would be interested in learning what that budget would be if we:

A) Stopped paying out contracts to companies that don't deliver/are delinquent.

B) Stopped wasting supplies (I have a friend who worked in supply/logistics during the Iraq War and he said they were just throwing away expensive shit as units left to return home.)

C) Stopped fighting wars that don't involve us.

The military industrial complex is a hell of a drug, and I don't think we should cut military by too much, but this isn't the cold war and I would love to see some legitimate reasons for why we need to be the world's police.

I agree with much of what you said. As for the bold part, the short answer is: because nobody else is stepping up to the plate. So who the fuck else is going to do it?

-The Kurds are fighting ISIS....but really, they're the Kurds. Loyal and good people....but not strong enough to wipe ISIS out. France and Russia dropped a few bombs, and now they're doing half-assed crap like giving their 40 year old Surplus to beleaguered troops. And the UK is completely in debt and has the refugee problem to deal with. That, and their military funding has been cut off so much that they're really just not the military that they were 15 years ago (or so I hear).

-China is bullying in major international shipping lanes in International Waters, which effects millions of people and trillions of dollars worth of the World's Goods and Imports/Exports. And they're building islands so that they have more power in that area...which violates the borders of the Philippines, Malaysia, and Vietnam; all of whom are too dirt poor to resist this or protect themselves appropriately.

-Russia is bullying almost everyone it seems. They're even fucking around with skirting bombers close to our borders on spying missions. But they're also providing assistance to countries in the Middle East who don't like us very much (reasons why they don't like us are irrelevant and besides the point), and as such: effects our interest in that area. And yes, we NEED that oil, so it IS an interest of ours, like it or not. They also invaded and took over a good portion of Ukraine, and nobody said a fucking word about it. I have little doubt that Putin will probably move in the future to take the whole country.

And that's just what I know of off the top of my head. We also provide a huge presence around Africa to fight Piracy.

I'm under no illusions about our Military History. But nobody else is doing this shit.

 

[Denny Crane]

the disconnect really is...

"why should we trust the incompetent government with our tax dollars and expect them to take care of us?"

and

"we should give the government our tax dollars for the military so they can take care of us"

they want it both ways

The defense of the nation is so significant a duty of government that a lot of the constitution is used to spell out the government's powers in that respect.

Regardless of how competent or incompetent government is, it's our best hope for defense.

 

[julius]

The defense of the nation is so significant a duty of government that a lot of the constitution is used to spell out the government's powers in that respect.

Regardless of how competent or incompetent government is, it's our best hope for defense.

Yeah, but if you point out the waste of $$ spent on the military by our government, they shout and scream that they need to make it bigger and put more control in the hands of the government by UPPING the $$.

Either the government is incapable of spending $$ and is incompetent, or it's perfectly capable because thats it's "job". Can';t be be both.

 

[PDXFonz]

Donald Trump seems like a guy from another planet... In the Kluxion Omega sector.

 

[barfo]

The defense of the nation is so significant a duty of government that a lot of the constitution is used to spell out the government's powers in that respect.

Regardless of how competent or incompetent government is, it's our best hope for defense.

Wait, I thought a well-regulated militia was our best hope.

barfo

 

[Jade Falcon]

Yeah, but if you point out the waste of $$ spent on the military by our government, they shout and scream that they need to make it bigger and put more control in the hands of the government by UPPING the $$.

Either the government is incapable of spending $$ and is incompetent, or it's perfectly capable because thats it's "job". Can';t be be both.

As much as it pains me to admit, I agree. I want smaller government and lower taxes. But I also want a strong military.

I suppose you can't ultimately have both.

I'm out. Things to do. Bye folks.