Bernie seems like a guy from another planet!

[Denny Crane]

Yeah, but if you point out the waste of $$ spent on the military by our government, they shout and scream that they need to make it bigger and put more control in the hands of the government by UPPING the $$.

Either the government is incapable of spending $$ and is incompetent, or it's perfectly capable because thats it's "job". Can';t be be both.

First rule of government spending: why buy something when you can buy two at 4x the price?

That government wastes huge sums of money should be no surprise. Think of it as a tax on getting things done.

Defense costs what it costs.

 

[Denny Crane]

Wait, I thought a well-regulated militia was our best hope.

barfo

Read this and get back to me:
http://www.thehomescholar.com/blog/social-studies-for-dummies/

 

[julius]

First rule of government spending: why buy something when you can buy two at 4x the price?

That government wastes huge sums of money should be no surprise. Think of it as a tax on getting things done.

Defense costs what it costs.

Defense DOES cost what it costs...because they bloat what we need as defense. We dont need nearly as much as we have.

The lack of strength of the military wasn't why 9/11 happened.

 

[Natebishop3]

Having these huge armies are obsolete. The wave of the future is quick, reactionary forces, and owning the skies and the sea.

Having a strong Navy, I understand.

Having a strong Air Force, I understand.

Having a big strong Army is not necessary anymore. I would rather put money into special forces and highly trained units like the Army Rangers. If we ever do trade blows with a large nation in conventional warfare, there will be plenty of cannon fodder that will immediately sign up.

 

[Denny Crane]

Defense DOES cost what it costs...because they bloat what we need as defense. We dont need nearly as much as we have.

The lack of strength of the military wasn't why 9/11 happened.

We may overspend, but of anything the government spends on, this is the one thing they can't afford to underspend. I'd rather they don't overspend (or spend) on much of anything else.

 

[MarAzul]

Which way do I travel through the South?
FAST.

Ha!

 

[MarAzul]

We may overspend, but of anything the government spends on, this is the one thing they can't afford to underspend. I'd rather they don't overspend (or spend) on much of anything else.

Precisely sir! Well done.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

From the right I hear about cutting government waste and fraud in Medicaid, welfare, etc.
From the left I hear about cutting defense so we can do more to help our people at home.

Personally, I'd like to put accountability in place for both defense and welfare/medicaid, etc.

I know I live a dream but I think if we had an agency with teeth that could effect accountability and change (no slap on the hand or just look the other way for malfeasance), we could have more effective use of our tax dollars domestically and militarily.

Personally, I'd love it if more of the government employee "grifters" were put in jail. Schools have a no tolerance policy for kids going there but it seems the government has all kinds of tolerance for misdeeds.

Stupid. Treat the government employees likes kids at school. Zero tolerance for misusing funds or you are fired and potentially jailed.

Gramps...

 

[KingSpeed]

Being poorandblack and is worse than poorandwhite because of racism.

 

[dviss1]

Bernie Sanders is a lot like a Republican.

Eisenhower.

 

[Natebishop3]

We may overspend, but of anything the government spends on, this is the one thing they can't afford to underspend. I'd rather they don't overspend (or spend) on much of anything else.

There's overspending and then there's just flushing money down the toilet because of mismanagement of funds.

One example was the outright theft of billions of dollars by private contractors during the Iraq War through frivolous spending and price gouging. We got taken in a big way, and nobody did anything about it.

 

[dviss1]

Bernie Sanders has never advocated giving anything away for free.

 

[dviss1]

LMAO, that's rich. Like some pussy Democrat would know anything about what the South is like, except what Michael "Is that a doughnut?" Moore tells him.

And this is why not too many people in here will take you seriously. Not like you give a shit.

 

[dviss1]

We may overspend, but of anything the government spends on, this is the one thing they can't afford to underspend. I'd rather they don't overspend (or spend) on much of anything else.

Yes but do we really need to spend more on our military than the next five countries combined? Russia and China are among those five...

 

[dviss1]

First rule of government spending: why buy something when you can buy two at 4x the price?

That government wastes huge sums of money should be no surprise. Think of it as a tax on getting things done.

Defense costs what it costs.

You say this while completely ignoring the waste and fraud in our "defense" budget.

If government can't run ANYTHING correctly like you say, why do we trust how much they're spending on our military??

You guys can't have it both ways.

 

[Denny Crane]

There's overspending and then there's just flushing money down the toilet because of mismanagement of funds.

One example was the outright theft of billions of dollars by private contractors during the Iraq War through frivolous spending and price gouging. We got taken in a big way, and nobody did anything about it.

Nah. A better example is congressmen approving some weapons system because it creates jobs in some state - a system that the military doesn't want.

 

[Denny Crane]

You say this while completely ignoring the waste and fraud in our "defense" budget.

If government can't run ANYTHING correctly like you say, why do we trust how much they're spending on our military??

You guys can't have it both ways.

Not quite.

I don't trust how much they're spending on the military.

What I do know is "not enough" is really bad, and whatever else they spend on in government is equally full of pork.

 

[Denny Crane]

Yes but do we really need to spend more on our military than the next five countries combined? Russia and China are among those five...

It's not a question of spending more than those countries combined. It's a matter of spending 3% of our GDP on military, which is not even close to a wartime %.

We just happen to have a HUGE GDP compared to the others.

 

[Denny Crane]

Havana before socialism:

Havana today:

 

[dviss1]

Havana before socialism:

Havana today:

You still can't have it both ways. Does Finland, Norway, and the Netherlands look like that?

Cuba had a dictator. To compare that situation to Democratic Socialist Sweden is disingenuous at best an outright lie at worst.

 

[Denny Crane]

You still can't have it both ways. Does Finland, Norway, and the Netherlands look like that?

Cuba had a dictator. To compare that situation to Democratic Socialist Sweden is disingenuous at best an outright lie at worst.

Nobody stopped the rest of the world from trading with Cuba.

They simply ran out of other people's money sooner than most countries will.

 

[dviss1]

Nobody stopped the rest of the world from trading with Cuba.

They simply ran out of other people's money sooner than most countries will.

The bottom line is you can't blame socialism for that. Doing that is very disingenuous and you know it.

 

[Natebishop3]

Nah. A better example is congressmen approving some weapons system because it creates jobs in some state - a system that the military doesn't want.

That's just another example. One of thousands.

 

[Jade Falcon]

And this is why not too many people in here will take you seriously. Not like you give a shit.

And that's why I stopped arguing with you. The whole basis of your argument boils down to one-lined insults "You're full of shit". I can't debate that kind of immaturity.

You still can't have it both ways. Does Finland, Norway, and the Netherlands look like that?

Cuba had a dictator. To compare that situation to Democratic Socialist Sweden is disingenuous at best an outright lie at worst.

Really? What dictator runs Detroit then?

The Democrat party has destroyed that place.

 

[dviss1]

And that's why I stopped arguing with you. The whole basis of your argument boils down to one-lined insults "You're full of shit". I can't debate that kind of immaturity.



Really? What dictator runs Detroit then?

The Democrat party has destroyed that place.

Snyder and his Republican buddies are responsible for Flint Michigan.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Snyder and his Republican buddies are responsible for Flint Michigan.

Detroit hasn't elected a Republican Mayor since 1961.

http://eaglerising.com/1912/democrats-run-americas-ten-poorest-cities/

What about the rest of those cities too? And that's not even mentioning cities like LA, Fresno, Stockton, Compton, Sacramento, and San Bernardino. All in a State that is a beacon of Liberal Democrats and out-of-control Socialism.

Oh, and before you start....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhen...st-u-s-states-really-republican/#71b2ca9d4ddd

The author has a PhD in Economics and Social Policy, with studies in Law and Literature from Harvard, Oxford, and the Michigan School of Law. You wanna go argue this with him, then be my guest.

But I know who's word I trust more vs the Keyboard Justice Warriors on here.

 

[jlprk]

Detroit hasn't elected a Republican Mayor since 1961.

What about the rest of those cities too? And that's not even mentioning cities like LA, Fresno, Stockton, Compton, Sacramento, and San Bernardino. All in a State that is a beacon of Liberal Democrats and out-of-control Socialism.

As I said, you need to get educated with Michael Moore movies. You say that automotive cities like Detroit were ruined by Democratic mayors. Ever since Moore's first movie, everyone except you has known that the cause was car manufacturers moving out of the U.S.

As for the California cities that went bankrupt, the cause was conservative city councils giving police giant pensions. Once the pensions came due, the cities went bankrupt.

Interesting how conservatives ruin cities with their policies and then blame liberals.

 

[jlprk]

Snyder and his Republican buddies are responsible for Flint Michigan.

The Republican governor appoints dictators to run some Michigan cities. Elected Democratic mayors have no power over the unelected dictators. So unrepresented voters suffer under stupid Republican dictator decisions like changing the water supply of Flint, Michigan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_emergency_in_Michigan

 

[Jade Falcon]

As I said, you need to get educated with Michael Moore movies. You say that automotive cities like Detroit were ruined by Democratic mayors. Ever since Moore's first movie, everyone except you has known that the cause was car manufacturers moving out of the U.S.

As for the California cities that went bankrupt, the cause was conservative city councils giving police giant pensions. Once the pensions came due, the cities went bankrupt.

Interesting how conservatives ruin cities with their policies and then blame liberals.

So you didn't read any of the links I posted.....and your fall-back answer is that I need to watch a Liberal activist hack....who, by the way, is a multi-millionaire who made his fortune off of stupid and gullible people?

Sorry, but I think for myself.

The Republican governor appoints dictators to run some Michigan cities. Elected Democratic mayors have no power over the unelected dictators. So unrepresented voters suffer under stupid Republican dictator decisions like changing the water supply of Flint, Michigan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_emergency_in_Michigan

Oh Jesus....where's my facepalm?

Elected Democratic mayors

ELECTED. Not "Appointed". It's not the Republicans fault that droves of poor Democrats scamper to their voting booths and elect these morons. That's on them. Because it certainly isn't Republican voters voting in Democrats.

Get a clue.

 

[stampedehero]

Here is what he looks like in the hotel room