Bernier anybody?

[kreidertime]

Great size. Much better skater than Glass. Has 10 goals. Absolutely think Devs give him up for somebody like Lindberg who I don't think has a spot here any longer. He is one of the few 4th liners out there I can see making an impact in the playoffs.

 

[chuckd3534]

You think the Devs and Rangers make a deal though?

Still think Vermette is the most likely guy here. Then maybe Winnik. Bergenheim from Florida is interesting also.

 

[chuckd3534]

I still think Winnik is a solid fit. He has size. He can score around 9 or 10 goals and 30 or so points. He is a righty. He kills penalties. He has the best +/- on the Leafs at a +14, which is impressive on that team. He has playoff experience. He's about 49% on the 180 faceoffs he has taken this year. He is a solid fit.

Him or Vermette I will be happy.

 

[chuckd3534]

The only issue with Winnik is playoff production. 0 goals in 28 games.

But Vermette hasn't been a playoff monster either. 58 playoff games and 18 points (9 goals). And in the long run for the Sens, he played 20 games with only 2 goals and 5 points (only season he was a + in the playoffs...+ 2).

He did have 10 points (5 goals) in 16 games for the Coyotes 3 years ago though.

Point is you don't know for sure how good, or bad, a player will be in a given playoff season.

 

[Ranger71]

Sounds like the Isles are interested in Elias, that would be a solid move for them.

 

[Messiah717]

Elias is finished.

 

[cagedlion]

Of his 10 goals, I think 5 are against Rangers....Just kidding LOL

 

[chuckd3534]

Correction on Winnik, he is a lefty. Not sure why ESPN says righty, but he is a lefty.

Craig Button on NHL network just said he was the best fit for us, and our "need" is bottom 6 forward. He then named Winnik as the fix.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

I was thinking about Bernier remember dumb he's going to knock out either Miller or Fast if they acquire Vermette

 

[strudwickisthebest]

LOL watching the Devils and Sabres right now. How the fuck did this team beat us in 2012?

 

[chuckd3534]

The 3rd line looks real good right now, but we need to remember Hayes has never played this many games and has ZERO NHL playoff experience. Miller has very limited playoff experience.

Not sure if I could count on them both in the top 9 in the playoffs. That's why I like Vermette first (more scoring and faceoffs) and Winnik second.

 

[chuckd3534]

We were out of gas by that series strud. That team grinded for everything. Low scoring grinding battles every game. 7 game series after 7 game series. Didn't score goals. Team was spent, and Glen did us no favors at the trade DL. I hope history doesn't repeat itself on that one.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Go get Stewart. Gives us size and greed we need on the bottom lines. Exactly what we are missing.

 

[chuckd3534]

He's another one. Stewart, Vermette, Winnik. Maybe some Carolina guys.

Still like Vermette, but any of those guys will do.

 

[Stepupstepan]

Stewart Hayes Hagelin
Miller Moore Fast/Stemp

 

[Ranger71]

This has to be the thinnest trade dl ive seen. Not alot but some useful pieces for cap strapped contenders.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

I wouldn't worry about the experience because Seguin and Marchand played great in the rookie seasons when Boston won the cup

 

[chuckd3534]

And we can name a ton of guys who didn't produce without experience. I really don't want to have to rely on BOTH. That's my point, and why we are looking for a top 9 forward.

 

[Stepupstepan]

I would love Stewart and Vermette. Thats it. Stemp or Fast would probably be gone then.

 

[chuckd3534]

No shot of that Step. We would only get one. Pick one...and I rather have Vermette. And lower cap hit as well.

 

[cagedlion]

Do any of you really think Lou Lamoriello would help the Rangers?
The man's ego would not permit anything going to Rangers.

He would prefer to help the Islanders......and not cheaply.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

No there is a shot Chuck, maybe low but it is possible they could acquire both players. That's what I called for, I think that would make this team deep as hell but John Moore would be the sixth defenseman

 

[chuckd3534]

I would put the chances at 1% strud. I am trying to be realistic. The odds of us, with no 1st round pick and cap issues, getting two guys like that with 3.75 and 4.2 mill cap hits is about 1%...and maybe that is generous. Maybe .00000001%. Be happy when we add one top 9 forward...I know I'll be.

As for the D, Moore and Hunwick will most likely be the 6th dman pair, and I can live with that.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

I don't know we've seen Teams pull off trades before the deadline that nobody expected.... I'd rather have Vermette/Stewarta d Sekera

 

[chuckd3534]

I'm sure you would strud...I'm sure you would...LOL.

I just don't see how we have the assets or cap space to add two forwards OR one forward and a dman like Sekera.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Of course Chuck, who wouldnt

 

[kreidertime]

Do any of you really think Lou Lamoriello would help the Rangers?
The man's ego would not permit anything going to Rangers.

He would prefer to help the Islanders......and not cheaply.

You don't care about helping another team in a trade. You care about helping your team. Any GM who doesn't think that way is a moron. The Devils have crap for young forwards. They could pencil in Lindberg as their 3rd or 4th center and they are a better team 2-3 years from now.

 

[chuckd3534]

Do I think Bernier could be a fit...sure. Do I see any shot Lou and Glen make a trade...nope.

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

LOL watching the Devils and Sabres right now. How the fuck did this team beat us in 2012?

umm...because it was 2 plus years ago and that team has gone down hill big time...