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I'm glad he's off the market, he's essentially become Steve Blake with more attitude at this point of his career anyway.
 
LOL it's not like our GM has the desire to actually add a piece that isn't through the draft, and God forbid he has to trade someone for a piece.
 
I didn't want him at all. The guy makes Blake look like a lock down defender, and his shot can be streaky. When it's off he's worthless.
 
craigehlo said:
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60391/20090707/bibby_agrees_to_deal_with_hawks/

Another free agent choose to stay with their team. Too bad. I think he would have been a nice fit with Blake off the bench.
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I had no interest in Bibby at this point in his career. None. Glad he is staying with the Hawks, as 1) that means the Blazers can't be temtped to do something really stupid like signing Bibby as some sort of consolation prize, 2) that takes one team off the market for PGs.
 
Sounds like he just killed Andre Miller's asking price of 10 million a year, how about Dre for the same price???
 
EWT said:
Sounds like he just killed Andre Miller's asking price of 10 million a year, how about Dre for the same price???
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Sure, as long as you're talking about Philly signing him. I want nothing to do with Miller.
 
EWT said:
Sounds like he just killed Andre Miller's asking price of 10 million a year, how about Dre for the same price???
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I would think Miller is worth more than Bibby. He does pretty much everything better except shoot three pointers, and he's two years younger.

Bibby signed for 3 years at $6 mil/year. That would seem to put Miller in the $7-8 mil/year area.

If we could get him at that price for a three year deal, I'd probably be ok with it. I'd definitely prefer that kind of a contract to what we offered Hedo.
 
mook said:
I would think Miller is worth more than Bibby. He does pretty much everything better except shoot three pointers, and he's two years younger.
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You mean two years older. Miller's 33, Bibby is 31.
 
Atlanta outbid themselves to buy the crap sandwich that is Mike Bibby.

Blake is many, many times the player Bibby is now.
 
LittleAlex said:
Atlanta outbid themselves to buy the crap sandwich that is Mike Bibby.

Blake is many, many times the player Bibby is now.
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Really?

Per 36 minutes

Code: 
Rk        Player  Season Age  G GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
1     Mike Bibby 2008-09  30 79 79 2740 5.7 13.2 .435 2.2 5.6 .390 1.8 2.2 .789 0.5 3.2 3.7 5.2 1.3 0.1 1.7 1.9 15.5
2    Steve Blake 2008-09  28 69 69 2188 4.6 10.6 .428 2.3 5.4 .427 1.0 1.2 .840 0.5 2.4 2.8 5.7 1.1 0.1 1.8 2.1 12.5

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Code: 
Rk        Player  Season Age  G   MP  PER  TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS  WS
1     Mike Bibby 2008-09  30 79 2740 16.3 .544 .518  1.6 10.3  6.0 24.2  1.9  0.3 10.6 20.6  113  109 4.3 2.4 6.7
2    Steve Blake 2008-09  28 69 2188 14.5 .557 .536  1.6  8.4  4.9 25.1  1.7  0.1 13.6 16.9  118  110 3.9 1.6 5.5


Bibby looks better, not Blake looks many, many times better
 
axs88 said:
You mean two years older. Miller's 33, Bibby is 31.
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My bad. Thanks. When you factor that in, maybe they are worth pretty similar deals.

Assuming, of course, Atlanta really paid Bibby what he was worth. If I were a Hawks fan, I wouldn't have wanted Bibby for that much.
 
:rofl:

Blake better than Bibby....

That is a good one....
 
Mediocre Man said:
Really?

Per 36 minutes

Code: 
Rk        Player  Season Age  G GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
1     Mike Bibby 2008-09  30 79 79 2740 5.7 13.2 .435 2.2 5.6 .390 1.8 2.2 .789 0.5 3.2 3.7 5.2 1.3 0.1 1.7 1.9 15.5
2    Steve Blake 2008-09  28 69 69 2188 4.6 10.6 .428 2.3 5.4 .427 1.0 1.2 .840 0.5 2.4 2.8 5.7 1.1 0.1 1.8 2.1 12.5

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Code: 
Rk        Player  Season Age  G   MP  PER  TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS  WS
1     Mike Bibby 2008-09  30 79 2740 16.3 .544 .518  1.6 10.3  6.0 24.2  1.9  0.3 10.6 20.6  113  109 4.3 2.4 6.7
2    Steve Blake 2008-09  28 69 2188 14.5 .557 .536  1.6  8.4  4.9 25.1  1.7  0.1 13.6 16.9  118  110 3.9 1.6 5.5


Bibby looks better, not Blake looks many, many times better
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craigehlo said:
That explains why Bibby hung 27 (10-14 shooting) points on Blake last season while Steve scored 14 (1-7 3-point shooting).
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Are you guys really arguing for Bibby? Seriously?

If you thought Blake a bad defender, you will shit yourselves with rage watching Bibby stand around watching the action on defense.

Bibby might get hot from time to time, but that's about it.

This is one of those times where the numbers lie.
 
Iwasn't arguing to get Bibby. We have Blake, and don't need anything else ever.
 
Bibby isn't much better than Blake, and he's going to start declining soon.
 
B-Roy said:
Bibby isn't much better than Blake, and he's going to start declining soon.
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Yep. Blake should keep having career years as well. No way that was a fluke. Next year with Bibby declining and Blake having another career year they should almost be even. Then hopefully KP sees this and extends Blake for 6 years at the max because he will continue to have career years. This could have been the plan all along?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Iwasn't arguing to get Bibby. We have Blake, and don't need anything else ever.
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Seriously man, you might want to stop following the team for awhile. It's like you can't even rationally read anything about the team anymore. Not wasting cap space to acquire that piece of shit Bibby is not the same as standing pat with Blake. Taking what I said like that is absurd.

I do think Portland should make a move that makes sense. No one on this board wants Portland to upgrade the Point Guard position then me.

But Bibby is not the answer. Why make a move that will make the team worse in the future? Are you so desperate that the team make a move you would willing to ruin what they current have to do so?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Yep. Blake should keep having career years as well. No way that was a fluke. Next year with Bibby declining and Blake having another career year they should almost be even. Then hopefully KP sees this and extends Blake for 6 years at the max because he will continue to have career years. This could have been the plan all along?
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Yeah, because Bibby's 2 extra points and .2 extra steals are going to be the difference maker.

Get real, Bibby would fall under the category of making a move for the sake of making a move.
 
B-Roy said:
Yeah, because Bibby's 2 extra points and .2 extra steals are going to be the difference maker.

Get real, Bibby would fall under the category of making a move for the sake of making a move.
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So you are just going to disregard defensive win shares, offensive win shares and overall win shares? he also get's to the line more than Blake. He is an upgrade none the less. I was responding to Alex saying Blake was many, many times better than Bibby, which is totally false.
 
Not a significant enough upgrade if we got Bibby. No thanks.
 
alex42083 said:
Not a significant enough upgrade if we got Bibby. No thanks.
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I think it would have been if we could have turned Blake and Outlaw into a SF or Big though.


For example, Bibby and Lee is better than Blake, Outlaw and a pick or cash.
 
I think Bibby is better than Blake, but not by enough to make it worthwhile. I'd rather go after an upgrade that would actually make a big difference...even if Portland strikes out on that, the difference between Blake and Bibby is too small for me to really "regret" not having picked up.
 
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