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That's not me complaining about Obama with a Hitler mustache, that's me pointing out Shooter's lack of consistency on the subject of demonization.

barfo

If it's not free speech, what is it?
 
If it's not free speech, what is it?

Well, it is either demonization or free speech (or both), as you wish. But it can't be one when it applies to your party and the other when it applies to the other party.

barfo
 
Well, it is either demonization or free speech (or both), as you wish. But it can't be one when it applies to your party and the other when it applies to the other party.

barfo

I mentioned that some of the signs at the 9/12 rally were over the top. That's my opinion. These Bush ones are equally so.
 
I mentioned that some of the signs at the 9/12 rally were over the top. That's my opinion. These Bush ones are equally so.

Agreed.

barfo
 
I disagree that you could get the majority behind that, but I guess we'll never know for sure.

barfo

Well, we know the majority of people believe there should be a change in the way people are insured. We also know a majority disagree with the Democrats' proposals, whether they come from the House, the Senate or even the conflicting and deceiving policies presented by our President.

So, exactly, in your opinion, would garner the backing of the majority of the people?
 
Well, we know the majority of people believe there should be a change in the way people are insured. We also know a majority disagree with the Democrats' proposals, whether they come from the House, the Senate or even the conflicting and deceiving policies presented by our President.

So, exactly, in your opinion, would garner the backing of the majority of the people?

The majority of people think things should be changed, but only in ways that don't affect them other than making things cheaper or better. Cheaper and better is good, but different is bad, even if it is cheaper and better. Propose that everyone has to change their heath insurance plan, and you will have a large majority in opposition. Propose anything that might negatively impact anyone's taxes, even a couple of dollars, and you will have a lot of opposition. Propose something that is perceived as the government forcing people to do something, and you'll get protests. And of course those whose ox is getting gored by the proposed plan will spend a lot of money lobbying, advertising, and astroturfing against it.

So what would gain the backing of the majority of the people? I'm not sure there is any plan that would. Medicine might be good for us, but it tastes bad and we the people are going to scream and kick our feet until you force it down our throats.

barfo
 
There isn't a food on this planet that causes obesity.
It has to do with portion control. Oh, and government shouldn't have a damn thing to do with this problem. If someone chooses to be fat, then they should pay higher premiums.

You don't know much about this subject do you?
 
There isn't a food on this planet that causes obesity. It has to do with portion control. Oh, and government shouldn't have a damn thing to do with this problem. If someone chooses to be fat, then they should pay higher premiums.

I would wagor eating fettucini alfredo and a new york strip steak, is going to cause some problems. Or a Big Mac with Fries.

Or are you talking about portions of daily values for fat and what not?
 
I would wagor eating fettucini alfredo and a new york strip steak, is going to cause some problems. Or a Big Mac with Fries.

Or are you talking about portions of daily values for fat and what not?

My point is that it's behavior that causes obesity. You don't have to eat an entire NY strip, a huge pile of fettucini alfredo an entire Big Mac or all your fries. Some foods are more fattening than others, and those you have to eat in moderation.
 
My point is that it's behavior that causes obesity. You don't have to eat an entire NY strip, a huge pile of fettucini alfredo an entire Big Mac or all your fries. Some foods are more fattening than others, and those you have to eat in moderation.

Yeah, I agree with that. I think the exercise should be included too. But yeah, big portions over time definitely hurts you. Some of it is genetic though. (sorry it's from the left wing nut jobs)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20535978/
 
I've lost 12 pounds in the past 5 weeks, and it hasn't been difficult at all.

I simply look at food packaging and if the nutrition information tells me the food is more than 25% calories from fat, I won't eat it.

I stopped going to the awesome tacqueria up the street for fast food and go to Subway instead.

I haven't been eating beef. Chicken, turkey, and fish only.

A cup of rice and vegetables of some sort with dinner.

Pop-tarts for breakfast.

Fat free or low fat frozen yogurt for a dessert treat.

I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything.

I will certainly have a pizza or a big mac once in a while. Just not as my main source of nutrition.

Just goes to show that it isn't hard to eat right and keep from being obese.
 

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