Biggest turn around in a season?

[magnifier661]

The only team I can think of would be the Spurs after they had the worst record when Robinson was out with injury. The next year, after they got Duncan, they made it to the finals.

We were the worst team in the league, so I would give them an edge

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I'm sure you meant to type "weren't the worst".

San Antonio will always be the biggest turnaround in my book.

 

[Strenuus]

The only team I can think of would be the Spurs after they had the worst record when Robinson was out with injury. The next year, after they got Duncan, they made it to the finals.

We were the worst team in the league, so I would give them an edge

Weren't.

But yes, I agree. (I know that was a small error. Freudian slip, if you will!)

 

[magnifier661]

Weren't.

But yes, I agree. (I know that was a small error. Freudian slip, if you will!)

Oops! Lol

 

[Denny Crane]

Celtics when they got Bird.

 

[magnifier661]

Celtics when they got Bird.

You're probably right. I wasn't a fan back then, so I couldn't have seen it with my own eyes. It's hard for me to make an opinion unless I see it with my own eyes.

 

[Denny Crane]

You're probably right. I wasn't a fan back then, so I couldn't have seen it with my own eyes. It's hard for me to make an opinion unless I see it with my own eyes.

29 to 61 wins.

 

[Strenuus]

Oops! Lol

haha no biggie. I was trying to make it as un-douchey as possible.

 

[TBpup]

There have been variations of this thread in several places. Portland is on pace to have an amazing turnaround but the gold standard is what Boston did from 78/79 to 79/80 going from 29 wins to 61 wins before finally losing in the conference Finals.

 

[maxiep]

The difference in the San Antonio and Boston examples is they added future Hall of Fame players to their rosters. Hey, I like RoLo, but he's only getting into Springfield the same way we are--with paid admission.

Here's the better question: Which team--which didn't add a significant piece or didn't have someone return from a season-long injury--has made the biggest turnaround?

 

[Denny Crane]

Chicago added Carlos Boozer and went from 41 to 62 wins.

 

[Draco]

The Celtics went from one of the worst to best records when they added Garnett and Ray Allen.

 

[blue9]

The Celtics went from one of the worst to best records when they added Garnett and Ray Allen.

I can't believe it took so long for this to be brought up. Not just best record, but won the title! From 24 wins to 66 wins, and the title.

 

[THE HCP]

Celtics has to be it, but didn't the Blunder go from 23 to 51 a few years back?

 

[THE HCP]

I can't believe it took so long for this to be brought up. Not just best record, but won the title! From 24 wins to 66 wins, and the title.

Yeah, but they cheated.

 

[Draco]

I agree the Blazers are unique because its organic, they're 4 best players are the same. What is the biggest turnaround for a team that had 4 of the same players as starters in both years?

The Spurs would be out because they added Duncan, a healthy David Robinson, and a healthy Sean Elliot.
The recent Celtics would be out because they obviously added Garnett and Allen.

I just looked up the Bird Celtics, it appears they might be similar to the Blazers since they retained Maxwell, Cowens, Ford and Archibald. Those guys lead the Celtics in minutes the year prior and were the top5 in team minutes along with Bird the following year. That team went from 29 wins to 61 wins, a 32 win improvement.

So to better that our Blazers need a 33 win improvement on top of a 33 win season last year. 66-16 will be very unlikely record to get!

Bird did lead the team in minutes his first year there. So if you changed the conditions to a team having the same 4 players lead the team in minutes played I think we may set the record. The Thunder of recent times had some big improvements a few years ago.

 

[Sedatedfork]

What about the 2005 Phoenix Suns? They replaced Marbury with Nash and went from 29 wins to 62 wins and Nash became an MVP. Pretty amazing turnaround. Granted Nash was pretty good with Dallas, but I sure would not have predicted that kind of turnaround by just swapping Marbury with Nash and adding Q Rich to a really mediocre team. Shawn Marion, Joe Johnson and a sophomore Amar'e was about all they had on that team.

 

[riverman]

Stat challenged as I am, didn't the Clippers make an enormous leap in the win column after Olshey rebuilt their roster?

 

[Denny Crane]

In Vinnie Del Negro's 3 seasons, the Clippers went 32-50, 40-26, and 56-26. Every coach with that kind of performance deserves to be fired.

 

[ponderguy]

In Vinnie Del Negro's 3 seasons, the Clippers went 32-50, 40-26, and 56-26. Every coach with that kind of performance deserves to be fired.

McMillan went from 21-61 in his first year to 32-50, 41-41, 54-28, 50-32 and 48-34 in his last full year before injuries and a roster of malcontent rentals blew the team up. He didn't DESERVE to be fired either.

 

[Denny Crane]

McMillan went from 21-61 in his first year to 32-50, 41-41, 54-28, 50-32 and 48-34 in his last full year before injuries and a roster of malcontent rentals blew the team up. He didn't DESERVE to be fired either.

3 straight years of worsening records? Vinnie had 3 straight years of improving records.

 

[ponderguy]

3 straight years of worsening records? Vinnie had 3 straight years of improving records.

54-28, 50-32 and 48-34 are not bad records for the teams we had, or even bad records. Those teams did very well, especially when you consider that his best player was on the decline. I think the argument against Vinny was that they were expecting more out of the roster than he was getting, especially once you added Chris Paul, whereas McMillan was seen as getting the most out of those rosters as possible.

 

[Draco]

3 straight years of worsening records? Vinnie had 3 straight years of improving records.

What would a more seasoned coach have got out of those rosters? The GM did a great job of improving their talent, that brings hightened expectations out of a coach which Vinny did not meet.

 

[Draco]

54-28, 50-32 and 48-34 are not bad records for the teams we had, or even bad records. Those teams did very well, especially when you consider that his best player was on the decline. I think the argument against Vinny was that they were expecting more out of the roster than he was getting, especially once you added Chris Paul, whereas McMillan was seen as getting the most out of those rosters as possible.

Nate wasn't fired for having any of those three seasons records. He was fired for the following lockout season when the players quit listening to him.

 

[Denny Crane]

What would a more seasoned coach have got out of those rosters? The GM did a great job of improving their talent, that brings hightened expectations out of a coach which Vinny did not meet.

Really? Vinnie's team improved 16 wins. Were the expectations 17 wins or something?

56 wins is most impressive. The most wins in Clippers history, going back to when they were in Buffalo and then San Diego even.

 

[ponderguy]

Nate wasn't fired for having any of those three seasons records. He was fired for the following lockout season when the players quit listening to him.

Felton was a absolute cancer to that team. He came into that season completely out of shape and completely unprepared for the season. He benched Felton for a stretch for this and since we had no GM we had no real backup for him so Crawford was forced into a role that he didn't want. I refuse to blame McMillan for Felton and Crawford refusing to play for the team. They were hired mercenaries that were out for themselves. That team was going to be a disaster no matter who coached it.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

"And here I am, uhm, talking to myself."

 

[magnifier661]

Really? Vinnie's team improved 16 wins. Were the expectations 17 wins or something?

56 wins is most impressive. The most wins in Clippers history, going back to when they were in Buffalo and then San Diego even.

I think it's post season success Draco was talking about. Dunleavy was fired in Portland with similar regular season wins.

I think Dallas went through a lot of coaches, having solid regular season records.

 

[Denny Crane]

I think it's post season success Draco was talking about. Dunleavy was fired in Portland with similar regular season wins.

I think Dallas went through a lot of coaches, having solid regular season records.

I think they had the chance for Doc Rivers.

 

[magnifier661]

I think they had the chance for Doc Rivers.

Oh yeah, that too! lol