Politics Birther 2.0? (1 Viewer)

[CupWizier]

Perhaps!
But how about you?

lol, he can't see your crap.

 

[CupWizier]

We've discussed this conspiracy theory of yours several times before.

I'd refer you to the rather long list of unsuccessful court challenges to Obama's eligibility.

Of course it's possible that you know the law better than all those judges. But then it's possible you don't.

barfo

I'll take a wild guess and say he doesn't

 

[MarAzul]

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen
https://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1646&context=jcl

More opinions. Much later.

Did you try Natural Law as and original source?
You can even find Madison's copy, notes in the margin and all in the Smithsonian.

 

[MarAzul]

you have readings that show they annulled the 14th amendment? Or that contradicts article II section I?

No where in the constitution does it say anything about a persons being a citizen ONLY if one of their parents is a citizen at the time of that persons birth. Nor does it say anything about the naturalization status of the candidates parents.

These are the requirements:

• The individual must have been born in the United States or born to a parent who is a citizen of the United States;
• The individual must be 35 years of age or older;
• The individual must have been a resident in the United States for at least 14 years.

Also, from the 14th Amendment:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

So, I'm eager to see this reading....

"natural" is simply part of the hyphenated adjective "natural-born", which stands in contrast to "naturalized" in defining the type of citizenship required. So no, the word is not superfluous; it means exactly what @julius says it means.

A question or thought for you guys to ponder.
If the meaning a Natural Born Citizen is as simple as you wish to make it, Why then would the founders find a need to exempt themselves in the Constitution from this requirement? There was no need, but for Hamilton all were born here.


The answer does lied in the definition of Natural Born as written in Natural Law.

 

[julius]

A question or thought for you guys to ponder.
If the meaning a Natural Born Citizen is as simple as you wish to make it, Why then would the founder find a need to exempt themselves in the Constitution from the requirement? The was no need, but for Hamilton all were born here.


The answer does lied in the definition of Natural Born as written in Natural Law.

she's one of us. let it go.

 

[MarAzul]

she's one of us. let it go.

Oh heck. I already agreed she was very probably Natural Born. Not really a worry on that score. Check out my first response to you.

 

[MarAzul]

lol, he can't see your crap.

I'll take a wild guess and say he doesn't

Sure he does.