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Propagandist said:
Interesting story:

I was just talking to a coffee rep about what's happening in our streets at the moment and it led to a bigger discussion. He was born in Guatemala, but is a US citizen now, and like many immigrants LOVES the U.S. with a passion greater than many of us that were born here. Anyhow, our conversation meandered and ended up in roughly the 1950s...

His grandfather, who is now 95, took part in a college exchange program in which he was able to spend a term at a university in the United States. He ended up an Chapel Hill or Columbia, somewhere in the Carolinas. He was pursuing, and later received, a degree in law.

School went well for him, but what affected him most was the racism in the U.S. A darker skinned Guatemalan, he was subject to Jim Crow laws, and had to ride in the back of bus, use particular drinking fountains and bathrooms, sit at a separate dining area, etc. Holy bizarro.

The white American timeline is doing the Twist and listening to Elvis and stuff, black America, and apparently anyone with darker skin, is treated like a leper. Something about that viewpoint really popped me way, way out of the white American narrative for a moment...

Dude ended up going back to Guatemala and finishing his degree. He has been to the U.S. many times since (never the South however), but his experiences rubbed the luster from the country...
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That is the America Trump wants. That is what he means by make it great again.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Interesting story, and I can very easily see that sort of thing happening. And while I do agree with the point you made, to be fair, the US by no means had/has a monopoly on racism because it is/was pretty much a worldwide problem. Blacks are/were looked upon unfavorably on just about every continent. Asians, whites, Native American, Irish, Italian, German, et al, also have a history of discrimination.

Again, not at all disputing your post and not intending to take the thread off topic, just pointing out that racism existed or still does exist in one form or another and sometimes to a greater/lesser degree than others, just about everywhere.
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I agree. What I think the U.S. has is great branding, many times to our detriment. As the Land of the Free and Possibility and so forth, we have A LOT to live up to. Sometimes, it seems we have to gloss over history. Sometimes, we have to pretend that it is a level playing field, when we really know it's rife with pitfalls.

So in regards to other countries...I'd say other countries are (almost universally) who they are because of homogamy. We, on the other hand, are the great Melting Pot. Perhaps, the homogamy arose because integrating is a difficult thing to do. I don't know. I just know we claim to be above race while the minorities in this country many times disagree.

I don't fault us for our lofty expectations; it's just a lot work to fulfill them. I think the majority at this point is nodding their heads that some more work is needed. At least I hope they are.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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WTF?

Suspicious for going 5 miles under? I almost suspected the officer to somehow get him for not turning the vehicle in to the rental agency. Somehow calling it stolen or something.

Going a whole 5 miles under. Sounded like the cop made that up. After he asked for ID and stuff he bought himself a moment to come up with a reason.

Almost thought it was some kind of hand written warning at the end. Never got a paper for a warning. Just verbal. Then the cop wouldn't even clarify or try to explain it.
 
Propagandist said:
My heart started beating so fast when he opened that door. Like I was watching a horror movie...
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SlyPokerDog said:
I know, I was thinking the same thing. "NOOOOOO... GET BACK IN THE CAR!"
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Me too. It was like white chicks running up stairs away from a killer. I was yelling get back in the car out loud. My wife ended up coming in the room because she heard me.
 
Whats incredibly stupid about the pull over, how was he to know the guy's spedo didn't show he was going 70?

And why would he pull someone over for doing 5 mph under, let alone, over?

I can't put my finger on it, but I'm sure that there's a reason
the driver was black
 
julius said:
Whats incredibly stupid about the pull over, how was he to know the guy's spedo didn't show he was going 70?
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OTOH, there's speedo going on 70...

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Can't speak for all states but down here I-75 from Ga to Fla is absolutely insane, people are nuts on the interstate and act like driving their car is like playing a video game.

...So a few years ago I finally decided that instead of doing 70 MPH or above and changing lanes so often, instead I set the cruise to 65, lean the seat back a bit, put on some good tunes, and stay my happy ass in the right hand lane.



...yeah, I will get to where I'm going a little later than the idiots whizzing by me, but it makes for a much safer and more enjoyable trip.
 
My rules-of-thumb for the road:

1) Allow plenty of time to get from point a to point b -- don't be in a hurry
2) Stay well behind the car in front of me..and in the right-hand lane, if possible
3) Be wary of those texting, etc., around me
4) There are jerks in the world. Let it go
 
ABM said:
My rules-of-thumb for the road:

1) Allow plenty of time to get from point a to point b -- don't be in a hurry
2) Stay well behind the car in front of me..and in the right-hand lane, if possible
3) Be wary of those texting, etc., around me
4) There are jerks in the world. Let it go
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Some of those work pretty well for this place too, especially #4.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Can't speak for all states but down here I-75 from Ga to Fla is absolutely insane, people are nuts on the interstate and act like driving their car is like playing a video game.

...So a few years ago I finally decided that instead of doing 70 MPH or above and changing lanes so often, instead I set the cruise to 65, lean the seat back a bit, put on some good tunes, and stay my happy ass in the right hand lane.



...yeah, I will get to where I'm going a little later than the idiots whizzing by me, but it makes for a much safer and more enjoyable trip.
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I always find it funny the jack rabbits speeding up ahead only for me to catch up with them having to wait for the light while I have timed it and can cruise right on through.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Can't speak for all states but down here I-75 from Ga to Fla is absolutely insane, people are nuts on the interstate and act like driving their car is like playing a video game.

...So a few years ago I finally decided that instead of doing 70 MPH or above and changing lanes so often, instead I set the cruise to 65, lean the seat back a bit, put on some good tunes, and stay my happy ass in the right hand lane.



...yeah, I will get to where I'm going a little later than the idiots whizzing by me, but it makes for a much safer and more enjoyable trip.
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I usually try to drive at 5MPH over the posted speed and I can get aggressive when others drive like maniacs. But I get you completely when it comes to driving in the Deep South. Those folks grew up on NASCAR and they apparently feel the need to prove they are the reincarnation of Dale Earnhardt Sr. Men and women alike. Hell, even huge RVs. It was insane. So I did my best to do exactly what you do. And to get the hell outta there with myself and my vehicle in one piece.......
 
CupWizier said:
I always find it funny the jack rabbits speeding up ahead only for me to catch up with them having to wait for the light while I have timed it and can cruise right on through.
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Why do I think of you when I see this? Heh. ;)
lawai'a said:
hawaii, cause, you know, tourists
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https://moscatomom.com/5-things-know-visiting-hawaii/


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  1. Stop the Road Rage
In Hawaii, you will notice that people are enjoying every bit of this place. If you notice some cars honking loudly and rushing like they are in a hurry, these are typically cars rented by those who have just arrived in Hawaii.

If you are in Hawaii, you don’t need to rush. Keep in mind that there is no need to rush from A to B. Road rage that might be common where you’re from is frowned upon here.
 

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ABM said:
Why do I think of you when I see this? Heh. ;)


https://moscatomom.com/5-things-know-visiting-hawaii/


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  1. Stop the Road Rage
In Hawaii, you will notice that people are enjoying every bit of this place. If you notice some cars honking loudly and rushing like they are in a hurry, these are typically cars rented by those who have just arrived in Hawaii.

If you are in Hawaii, you don’t need to rush. Keep in mind that there is no need to rush from A to B. Road rage that might be common where you’re from is frowned upon here.
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many places here on the big island only have 1 road to get to them, we also only have 1 road that goes around the whole island. things get very jammed up quitting time as is. many must commute from cheaper cost of housing areas to work and back on that single 2 lane road (40-60 mile commutes through 1/2 dozen rural communities with 30mph limits). those folks prefer a steady pace. on weekends however those generalities are out the window.
 
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