OT Black Man In Minnesota Dies After Cop Kneels On His Neck/ Portland Riots (1 Viewer)

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yankeesince59 said:
...well, for starters, people can start showing police with "dignity and respect"....are there bad cops?...of course there are. But there are also bd doctors, bad lawyers, bad politicians, etc., etc.,

But cops, like teachers are grossly underpaid and the old adage of "you get what you pay for" applies here. If you want better cops/teachers, attract a better crop of both by paying them for the unappreciated jobs that they have.

...that goes for Mods too !...:bgrin:...you all deserve raises...$50 a pop don't cut it anymore.
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I agree. Police officers are asked to help address civil disobedience and protect citizens. This has to be to have a free society BUT it has to be a joint effort with the citizens to maximize safety.
Yep, disgraceful bad actors in every profession but for the most part our Police officers has done a good job.
If you are an anarchist they hate all cops and anything civil obedience stands for. They could care less if America stands. Many if these trouble makers
In this riots are Anarchist that have a play book and a game plan to take advantage of disruptions.
Take out the organizers/agitators and calm will prevail.
 
This is gonna be really wild when the officer is only found guilty of manslaughter.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
This is gonna be really wild when the officer is only found guilty of manslaughter.
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Wilder if Trump gets re-elected. This is the kind of reaction that will follow
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
This is gonna be really wild when the officer is only found guilty of manslaughter.
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There is no way he gets a fair trial. Dude will get the death penalty.
 
Chris Craig said:
There is no way he gets a fair trial. Dude will get the death penalty.
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No he won't.

Its not even on the table for 3rd degree murder and manslaughter.

Asphyxiation was not a cause of death.

Guy had some kind of drugs or alcohol in system and likely had a heart attack. Manslaughter is a slam dunk, anything else, I dont think will stick.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
No he won't.

Its not even on the table for 3rd degree murder and manslaughter.

Asphyxiation was not a cause of death.

Guy had some kind of drugs or alcohol in system and likely had a heart attack. Manslaughter is a slam dunk, anything else, I dont think will stick.
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I am just saying the jury will be out to get him. Gonna be hard to find an impartial jury
 
yankeesince59 said:
...no, it's not...it is a fact and a very big problem but you don't want to discuss it...
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Sure, anytime anyone kills anyone it's a problem. It's also unrelated to the issue of white cops disproportionately killing black men and women.

It's akin to coming into a discussion about how cancer is a big problem by saying, "What no one is talking about is that heart disease is also a big problem and kills lots of people"--that's counterproductive and comes across like an attempt to hijack a conversation and divert from the topic of the conversation. Black people killing black people or white cops killing white people isn't relevant to a discussion about racial prejudice.
 
Let's get something straight: no one (here) is saying all cops are bad or that police don't deserve respect for what they do. The issue is that police, as a group, disproportionately kill black men and women for a number of reasons. The issue is also that there are number of racist violent cops who single out black people. These are two separate but related issues.

The first one has a lot of factors, many of which are unconscious or systemic bias--whether it's having police who don't understand or care about a community policing that community, having an unrepresentative police force, having poor training programs in some cases, putting little to no emphasis on de-escalation or treating minority neighborhoods as "enemy territory." Police don't have to be racists themselves in order for police forces that operate like this to disproportionately kill people of color.

The second one is a lot simpler--violent, abusive police officers should be arrested and tried like any other violent criminals, but police forces reflexively close ranks around all cops whether or not they're bad actors and the justice system often covers for police officers too. This makes platitudes like "a few bad apples" not as applicable as one might hope, because when the police department gives cover to even the "bad apples" the whole department is tainted.
 
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