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wizenheimer said:
it may be worth noting that at least 2 of the police involved in this incident are black. In other words, this is not so much about racism as it is about disproportionate response and militarized attitudes by bigger city police departments
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Dirty cops are dirty cops.
 
"But it’s also been clear that there has genuinely been an element of destruction hiding behind the protests; a small number of people attempting to derail a fight about racial justice and channel energy and attention toward chaos. Donald Trump has repeatedly blamed the violence on “the far left” and groups such as antifa. However, over the weekend, officials in Minnesota confirmed that some of those initiating destruction in that city were white supremacists. Organizers behind groups such as the “Boogaloo Bois” have been actively recruiting members to cause violence at these events. And it’s now clear in addition to appropriating the cause of justice in the hope of inspiring a race war, these groups have also actively been working to blame antifa and similar groups. And Trump is playing along.

On Monday, Denver police stopped two members of the Boogaloo movement who appeared at the protests in that city with a staggering array of weaponry:"



(it's an interesting twitter thread)

"This kind of military armament has been the hallmark of these groups, and some have suggested that because the white operatives caught on video in city after city initiating property damage and encouraging violence are not carrying this kind of weaponry, they can’t be members of far-right militias. However, as CNN reports:"

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/tech/antifa-fake-twitter-account/index.html

(I guess this is completely unsurprising as violent chaos is the goal of these dangerous clowns)


"a number of online accounts pretending to represent antifa and encouraging violence at protests are actually being operated by white supremacist groups. This includes calls to violence that Donald Trump Jr. had used as example of how antifa was supposedly behind violent incidents.

It’s also suspicious that the account that Trump Jr. highlighted was both new and had only a few followers at the time he chose to make it his example of the “absolutely insane” positions of antifa, and as justifications of his father’s policies. That post went on to be cited hundreds of thousands of times, including by Republican politicians proudly trumpeting Trump’s declaration that antifa should be named as a terrorist organization."

(the rotten apple doesn't fall far from the rotten tree)

"There are a number of reasons why that’s not actually possible. For one thing, there is no antifa. It’s not a dues-collecting organization or official affiliation. There is no antifa clubhouse, monthly newsletter, or membership list. Antifa is just a label—“anti-fascist”—that some people choose to use when standing up to white supremacists and authoritarian groups that support Trump.

As The Washington Post reports, Adam Schiff has responded to say that such a declaration has no legal basis. “What the administration is trying to do is delegitimize peaceful protests,” said Schiff. Schiff also makes it clear there’s a very good reason why Trump can not declare antifa a terrorist organization, even if there was such an organization to begin with: Only foreign organizations can be designated official terrorist organizations."

(is that really surprising...trump making a big deal while talking nonsense? the blusterer-in-chief)

"Donald Trump is seeking to have these protests do double duty. He wants them to both set back the cause of racial justice and provide the same kind of “law and order” platform that Richard Nixon used in 1968. He also wants to use this moment to crush everyone who fights back against his authoritarian rule.

It’s extraordinarily important that the cause of these protests and the essential nature of the complaint be protected: This is about racial justice and police violence against Black Americans. It’s about both the specific tragedy of the police murder of George Floyd and how that incident is just one in a string of similar incidents that have happened far too many names, in far too many places, for far too many years. If this moment is appropriated by the right or the left for other purposes, that dilutes the power of what it should mean to that central cause.

But Trump is making it extremely difficult to maintain the clarity of that central argument by bringing in his claims against antifa, by making declarations about “weak” Democratic governors, and by trying to do what Nixon did 50 years earlier: Make this an argument about “law and order” rather than a dialogue about race and justice. In short, Trump is in the position of defending an essentially racist system, and to do that, he’s attacking everyone who he sees as a threat to his power.

Pointing out the facts about the nature of people behind the most objectionable behavior is important because Republicans are deliberately trying to put the vast majority of Black protesters seeking justice and allies of all races seeking to provide support in the same basket as assholes out for nothing but chaos and white supremacists who are lusting after a second Civil War."

(the search for scapegoats and distractions is endless)

"There’s no such thing as a member of antifa. They’re defined by their actions. Someone fighting against fascism is antifa. By definition, anyone who is seeking to create violence that derails and detracts from the essential nature of these protests is not antifa. They’re just … fa.

Like Trump."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...to-derail-peaceful-protests-for-hateful-cause
 
RR7 said:
He's not trying to start shit...

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He's looking to finish it.
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LMFAO, that's not Eric... the guy in the picture is MUCH TOUGHER AND MORE INTIMIDATING LOOKING than he could ever hope to be!
 
"The Washington Post has now confirmed from two sources that Trump Attorney General William Barr personally ordered the violent clearing of Lafayette Square and St. John's Church in the minutes before Trump walked to the church to hold up a Bible.

Barr personally gave the order to clear the park immediately for Trump's "walk," resulting in local, federal, and military police attacking the peacefully gathered protesters and the St. John's Church reverend, on church property for Trump's speech.

Even the justification is horrific. The claim, according to the Post's sources, was that the no-protest "perimeter" around the White House was supposed to be extended by one block, but that when Barr arrived on the scene for Trump's speech he found the planned perimeter was not in place.

So: "This needs to be done. Get it done," Barr ordered, according to the Post's Justice Department source.

If anything, that makes Barr's order worse and confirms, as a certainty, that the attack was indeed coordinated to allow Trump's planned photo op, the one he announced as the last line of his turgid Rose Garden speech. When the attorney general found that the assembled crowd was in Trump's way, rather than cancelling the planned stunt, Barr instead ordered an attack on the crowd so that the stunt could go forward."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/02/george-floyd-protests-live-updates/
 
Rumor has this photo was taken 5 years ago.
You know the photo that went viral?
Lotta people on this site had strong opinions on this.
Wonder what they think of it being from 5 years ago.
Prolly will try to ignore it. Seems likely.
Prove me wrong.

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H.C. said:
Rumor has this photo was taken 5 years ago.
You know the photo that went viral?
Lotta people on this site had strong opinions on this.
Wonder what they think of it being from 5 years ago.
Prolly will try to ignore it. Seems likely.
Prove me wrong.
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Here's a video of them getting shut off. Some say it happens every night, some disagree. I don't know when that specific picture was taken, but it's pretty clear they turned the lights off the other night, according to the video.

 
Anyone else notice that the peaceful protest crowds are actually getting larger?

...believe it or not, watching these protests are making me more optimistic about this country's direction than I have been in quite some time.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Anyone else notice that the peaceful protest crowds are actually getting larger?

...believe it or not, watching these protests are making me more optimistic about this country's direction than I have been in quite some time.
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Believe it or not, I have to agree. In the last 48 hours, Ive seen a turn. Protestors dividing themselves and the peaceful ones separating themselves from the ones that aren't and actually turning them in in some cases.
There are alot of bad things still going on, but creeping up more consistently on my feed are video clips of good things and not bad things. Makes me think there is a light at the end of the tunnel, where two days ago, I felt like it was the end of times.
 
wizenheimer said:
"The Washington Post has now confirmed from two sources that Trump Attorney General William Barr personally ordered the violent clearing of Lafayette Square and St. John's Church in the minutes before Trump walked to the church to hold up a Bible.

Barr personally gave the order to clear the park immediately for Trump's "walk," resulting in local, federal, and military police attacking the peacefully gathered protesters and the St. John's Church reverend, on church property for Trump's speech.

Even the justification is horrific. The claim, according to the Post's sources, was that the no-protest "perimeter" around the White House was supposed to be extended by one block, but that when Barr arrived on the scene for Trump's speech he found the planned perimeter was not in place.

So: "This needs to be done. Get it done," Barr ordered, according to the Post's Justice Department source.

If anything, that makes Barr's order worse and confirms, as a certainty, that the attack was indeed coordinated to allow Trump's planned photo op, the one he announced as the last line of his turgid Rose Garden speech. When the attorney general found that the assembled crowd was in Trump's way, rather than cancelling the planned stunt, Barr instead ordered an attack on the crowd so that the stunt could go forward."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/02/george-floyd-protests-live-updates/
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Barr needs to step down
 
BigGameDamian said:
And Trump will be in an orange jump suit!
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The New York prosecutors are waiting for the day he leaves office. But, I guess he will be living Florida then.
 
RR7 said:
There really is one for everything, isn't there?

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It's incredible.

I never thought the day would come when irony and hypocrisy would be so blatant and commonplace that they'd be kind of boring. But it's happened. Trump has raised our expectation of what is and isn't outrageous to an unprecedented heights. We have become the United States of the Desensitized.
 
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