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My older sis just sent this to some of our family members, and other friends. It's written about my Dad & Mom. Most of it I already knew, but some of this I was unaware of. The reason I'm sharing it here is because I've always been so proud of my folks...the sacrifices they made, and love they have for their fellow/brother man. They've always been models to me. They're both in heaven now. I still miss them....

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I've been thinking a lot about Mom and Dad during this time of racial unrest. I remember a similar time in Portland around 1964. I was in nursing school, living at Emanuel Hospital school of Nursing. This was during the time President Kennedy ( 1963) and Martin Luther King were assassinated.

The streets were packed with protests around the country, and yes there was some violence. In Portland it was manifested by rock throwing and stores burning.

Dad was pastor of a church that he had shepherded in Lake Oswego for five years. The church had just built a new building and Dad and Mom were busy with young families building the church.

Mom and Dad got a newsletter that went out to all the churches and they found out a Black church in North Portland was struggling. The pastor's wife had cancer.

Mom and Dad were wondering how the Black church was doing during this time of racial unrest

They wanted to know how the Black people were thinking and feeling. So one Sunday they took off from their church and went to visit the Black church (the one with the wife who had cancer), which at that time was meeting in a house.

They bonded with that little group of people so Dad resigned his Lake Oswego church and they joined themselves with the North Portland church. They ended up loving and working with that little church over the next 40 years.

Dad had a Master of Divinity that he had worked all my growing up years to attain (from when I was about 8 til I was 15). But he joined the African American Church as a support person and helped (as an elder and associate pastor, often a mentor to the young Black pastors), but he never took the lead pastor position for which he was well qualified. The church started a child care program under the Model Cities program and Dad was in charge of that and Mom worked there at times.

Many years before that when Dad was in his 20s he had a job at Vanport ship yards( during world war two years) and he said a man at work hit a black man over the head with a crowbar for no reason and my dad never got over that. ( he said the man was disciplined by a supervisor but Dad just couldn't believe his eyes!)

Maybe that added into his decision to give up his church in the suburb of Lake Oswego and join himself and Mom to the small black congregation. I'm sure His faith in Jesus and the teachings that we are our brother's keeper was his primary motivation

Anyway just wanted to share this with all of you. I know you all have kind hearts and a strong sense of social justice (wanting to fight for equality for all) and that you come by it from a legacy of Dad and Mom who led the way!!

Lots of love always!
 
It is absolutely disgusting that it takes protests and rioting for white people, and white police-men to see justice served when they bring violence onto Black people. The system that says we won't even bring charges to these people unless activists throw hands is the problem. It has created a cycle that has made it so violent people think they can get away with violence.

It's incredible in every negative way that Police-men, our president, our, "civil-protectors" are so tone-deaf that they are meeting protestors with force not understanding that all that does is give us more proof that the cycle of violence and power they have is broken they don't believe there are repercussions. Instead of finding and arresting violent rioters, they're standing in a line like they're ready to battle the ones who are protesting their cycles of violence.

It's terrible that mostly white people are using these protests to loot, pillage, and destroy businesses. To take away from the fact that Black people need to have peace, to think that if they're abiding by the laws then they are protected and safe from those who are "supposedly" there to enforce the law. White people out looting and rioting should be locked up, it is taking away from the message that most Black people are trying to get out there. That our systems have failed them, their friends and families, and their communities. That message should not be met with tear gas, and guns, and beatings. It should be heard that it's time to radically change the discrimination in our justice systems, and changes should come.

This isn't about "problems" in Black communities, black on black crime, or any of that stuff, sure they have problems too just like everywhere else. This isn't about "All lives matter", because no duh all lives do matter. This is about the fact that the United States and even some places in Europe for far too long have decided that Black Lives don't matter enough to give them the same protections, and peace that everyone else gets. You know the stupid thing about white people who would fight against systematic changes to law enforcement and the justice system is that in the end, it doesn't just help Black people, it helps EVERYONE to have policemen better trained, to have Black people feel safe out for jogs. To have a society that you aren't in fear of the ones who are supposed to protect you.

It doesn't matter that there are some "good" cops because it isn't the individual policemen or woman that is the problem. The problem is that the systems in place say the bad ones won't see justice for when they do bad things. So for a Black person if you see a cop you don't know if it's a "good" cop you just know that if it's a bad one he or she can probably get away with doing bad things to you. That is not a system we should have, and it's not a system ANYONE should want.
 
Looks like LA Pride parade will be back on this Sunday with BLM. They had previously cancelled due to COVID. This will be huge.

 
I knew trump was going batshit about the "bunker bitch" label

he now claims he went to the bunker for an inspection and he denies the secret service made him go there

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-bunker-inspection-protests_n_5ed7a4d7c5b657757ee76c31

so then, all his supporters who defended him by saying the SS made him go there have 3 choices: say you were wrong; say trump is a liar; or try and claim that yeah, he was on an inspection tour....which of course would be dumb as hell. An obvious lie is an obvious lie
 
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wizenheimer said:
I knew trump was going batshit about the "bunker boy" label

he now claims he went to the bunker for an inspection and he denies the secret service made him go there

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-bunker-inspection-protests_n_5ed7a4d7c5b657757ee76c31

so then, all his supporters who defended him by saying the SS made him go there have 3 choices: say you were wrong; say trump is a liar; or try and claim that yeah, he was on an inspection tour....which of course would be dumb as hell. An obvious lie is an obvious lie
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you forgot the obvious. Something negative, but totally unrelated about Hillary, something negative and completely unrelated about Obama and then something about fake news spreading lies about him.
 
wizenheimer said:
I knew trump was going batshit about the "bunker boy" label

he now claims he went to the bunker for an inspection and he denies the secret service made him go there

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-bunker-inspection-protests_n_5ed7a4d7c5b657757ee76c31

so then, all his supporters who defended him by saying the SS made him go there have 3 choices: say you were wrong; say trump is a liar; or try and claim that yeah, he was on an inspection tour....which of course would be dumb as hell. An obvious lie is an obvious lie
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Seems to be consistent with his administration as Secretary Esper of the DoD claims the walk to the church by trump for his photo op was really an inspection of Lafayette Park and the church.
 
wizenheimer said:
I knew trump was going batshit about the "bunker boy" label

he now claims he went to the bunker for an inspection and he denies the secret service made him go there

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-bunker-inspection-protests_n_5ed7a4d7c5b657757ee76c31

so then, all his supporters who defended him by saying the SS made him go there have 3 choices: say you were wrong; say trump is a liar; or try and claim that yeah, he was on an inspection tour....which of course would be dumb as hell. An obvious lie is an obvious lie
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Perhaps the news reports were wrong.
 
CupWizier said:
Seems to be consistent with his administration as Secretary Esper of the DoD claims the walk to the church by trump for his photo op was really an inspection of Lafayette Park and the church.
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Well, I know every time I inspect something that is damaged, I grab my friends bible and turn around and hold it up having pictures taken. And then I take that footage and make a commercial.
 
This is a good bunker, a great bunker - maybe good enough for Sleepy Joe or Crooked Hillary but it could use some upgrades. Maybe a big, golden "Trump Bunker" on the top, and move it Florida, because New York was so nasty, and have it open to a golf course. Dominate the bunker.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
It is absolutely disgusting that it takes protests and rioting for white people, and white police-men to see justice served when they bring violence onto Black people. The system that says we won't even bring charges to these people unless activists throw hands is the problem. It has created a cycle that has made it so violent people think they can get away with violence.

It's incredible in every negative way that Police-men, our president, our, "civil-protectors" are so tone-deaf that they are meeting protestors with force not understanding that all that does is give us more proof that the cycle of violence and power they have is broken they don't believe there are repercussions. Instead of finding and arresting violent rioters, they're standing in a line like they're ready to battle the ones who are protesting their cycles of violence.

It's terrible that mostly white people are using these protests to loot, pillage, and destroy businesses. To take away from the fact that Black people need to have peace, to think that if they're abiding by the laws then they are protected and safe from those who are "supposedly" there to enforce the law. White people out looting and rioting should be locked up, it is taking away from the message that most Black people are trying to get out there. That our systems have failed them, their friends and families, and their communities. That message should not be met with tear gas, and guns, and beatings. It should be heard that it's time to radically change the discrimination in our justice systems, and changes should come.

This isn't about "problems" in Black communities, black on black crime, or any of that stuff, sure they have problems too just like everywhere else. This isn't about "All lives matter", because no duh all lives do matter. This is about the fact that the United States and even some places in Europe for far too long have decided that Black Lives don't matter enough to give them the same protections, and peace that everyone else gets. You know the stupid thing about white people who would fight against systematic changes to law enforcement and the justice system is that in the end, it doesn't just help Black people, it helps EVERYONE to have policemen better trained, to have Black people feel safe out for jogs. To have a society that you aren't in fear of the ones who are supposed to protect you.

It doesn't matter that there are some "good" cops because it isn't the individual policemen or woman that is the problem. The problem is that the systems in place say the bad ones won't see justice for when they do bad things. So for a Black person if you see a cop you don't know if it's a "good" cop you just know that if it's a bad one he or she can probably get away with doing bad things to you. That is not a system we should have, and it's not a system ANYONE should want.
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In case anyone missed it the first time--or even if you already read it, read it again! ;)

Well put, my friend... beautifully stated!
 
Orion Bailey said:
I thought ytou wewre way off on this.

Really hard to agree without loking it up having known both cities all my life. But you are right. 147K for Bellevue, 110K for Gresham in poplation and Belleuve has 10 more SQ miles.

But here is innitially why I thought this was way off.

Bellevue:

BellevueWANov2019.jpg


Gresham:

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You would think, looking at the two images that its not even a comparison.

I looked all this up because thought for sure you were off, but the only difference is the building ins the downtown. Bellevue downtown just gets alot more from the Puget sound coming in and out daily to work.
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Bellevue also has infinitely more high rise buildings. It's really a metropolis. Gresham, not so much.
 
Secretary of Defense at odds with the orange man over using the military against the protestors:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mark-esper-insurrection-act-trump_n_5ed7b332c5b6489c7fdd26ef

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former Chairman of Joint-Chiefs-of-Staff slams trump's leadership, or more accurately, lack of leadership:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/american-cities-are-not-battlespaces/612553/

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Houston police chief tells trump to shut his mouth:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/houston-police-chief-donald-trump-protests_n_5ed74574c5b64febe6b0a173

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Orion Bailey said:
Not really based on the post you responded to.
I'm just sayin. You would be wrong.
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You made it clear that you found the premise to be highly likely.
If you intended it differently then perhaps you could have inquired of Julius if he saw some racial tendencies in HailBlazers. This is less of an affront than your approach. In the extremely unlikely event that he would have answered yes then you could have poured on the coal.
 
Lanny said:
You made it clear that you found the premise to be highly likely.
If you intended it differently then perhaps you could have inquired of Julius if he saw some racial tendencies in HailBlazers. This is less of an affront than your approach. In the extremely unlikely event that he would have answered yes then you could have poured on the coal.
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I sent Julius a message explaining my true intentions that Id rather not specify publicly to avoid drama breaking out, but , lets just say, my post wasn't really aimed at Julius. It was my mistake to make it look like it was.

With that said, I don't think I poured on the coal until a few back and forths. But really I moved on from this 1o minutes after the conversation. :)
 
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