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Dramatic moment cops arrest BLM gunman after 'he shot dead Patriot Muster protester' who maced him as rival demonstrators face off in Denver
  • A person has been shot and killed during protests in Denver Saturday afternoon
  • A 'Patriot Muster' was being held, with BLM-Antifa counterprotesting
  • Police were immediately on scene and the gunman dropped his weapon
  • The Denver Post reported the militia supporter maced the BLM-Antifa protester
  • The BLM-Antifa protester then pulled a handgun and shot dead the militiaman
  • Video circulating on social media showed the moment the trigger was pulled
  • Riot police at the protest ran to the noise of gunshot and arrested the gunman
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-seriously-injured-Denver-demonstration.html
 
Why would BLM attach themselves to Antifa Communist group? That hurts the cause.
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Two competing protests were scheduled Saturday afternoon at Denver's Civic Center Park, where the museum is located. One event, called "BLM-Antifa Soup Drive," was hosted by the Denver Communists and other groups, according to a Facebook event page. The other, dubbed a "Patriot Muster" rally, called on patriots to "stand up" and "show up" in promotional materials.

It is currently unclear if the victim and suspect were affiliated with either protest, Montoya said.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Dramatic moment cops arrest BLM gunman after 'he shot dead Patriot Muster protester' who maced him as rival demonstrators face off in Denver
  • A person has been shot and killed during protests in Denver Saturday afternoon
  • A 'Patriot Muster' was being held, with BLM-Antifa counterprotesting
  • Police were immediately on scene and the gunman dropped his weapon
  • The Denver Post reported the militia supporter maced the BLM-Antifa protester
  • The BLM-Antifa protester then pulled a handgun and shot dead the militiaman
  • Video circulating on social media showed the moment the trigger was pulled
  • Riot police at the protest ran to the noise of gunshot and arrested the gunman
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-seriously-injured-Denver-demonstration.html
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BIG UPDATE TO THIS STORY! NOT BLM!



denverpost.com

One dead after gunfire at downtown Denver rallies; private security guard on contract by 9News in custody
Sam Tabachnik | Reporter
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A Denver Post staff member witnessed the fatal confrontation. This story was updated after authorities called into question the accuracy of that journalist’s report concerning the affiliation of the shooter.

One person has died and another man, who 9News confirmed was a private security guard contracted by them, is in custody after a shooting during dueling protests Saturday in downtown Denver.

9News reported that one of their employees and a contractor for the television station were taken into custody. It later confirmed the guard was contracted through Pinkerton and “that it has been the practice of 9NEWS for a number of months to hire private security to accompany staff at protests.”

Police initially said two people were taken into custody but later said one of them was not involved in the incident. They tweeted that the suspect was a private security guard with no affiliation with Antifa.

The incident occurred after a man participating in what was billed a “Patriot Rally” sprayed mace at another man. That man then shot the other individual with a handgun near the courtyard outside the Denver Art Museum, according to a Denver Post journalist who witnessed the incident.

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Helen H. Richardson, The Denver Post

A man is taken into custody after he fatally shot another man when two opposing protest groups clashed during a protest in downtown Denver on Oct. 10, 2020 in Denver.
In a news conference after the incident, division Chief Joe Montoya, said police could not confirm the shooter’s or the victim’s affiliations, but said the incident started as a verbal altercation. Two guns were found at the scene, he said, as well as a mace can.

When asked about the 9News report, Montoya said he could not confirm any connection, only saying that the department was still interviewing witnesses. One of those witnesses was a Denver Post photojournalist.

“We’re hopeful that as soon as possible we can get the factual information out as to what led to this — who the individuals involved were,” Montoya said. “We’re hopeful that that information will help kind of calm the waters a little bit.”

The rallies at Civic Center on Saturday came less than a month before a presidential election and amidst a global pandemic that has the nation on edge. Until the shooting, the protests mostly consisted of each group chanting and yelling at one another from across the amphitheater, which separated the two groups.

The right-wing protesters — led by John Tiegen, an El Paso County resident — gathered in the park’s amphitheater and occasionally chanted patriotic songs and held up banners.

Juan Quinones, a member of the biker gang Sons of Silence, decided to attend the right-wing rally after seeing Tiegan’s event posted online. He arrived after police had closed off the amphitheater but stayed with other right-leaning protesters.

Quinones said he wasn’t attending the event to start trouble, but he would defend himself if he was attacked. He blamed violence on the left.

“If you don’t come out and listen and talk and speak, then they win,” he said.

The left-wing group — which organizers called “BLM-Antifa Soup Drive” — held up flags and signs railing against Nazis and white supremacists as they gathered in the middle of the park, several hundred feet from the barricaded-off amphitheater.

An hour in, police had fired what appeared to be pepper balls after people from the leftist group started rattling a barrier headed into the amphitheater. One protester burned a thin-blue-line flag in front of the officers.

The soup drive idea appealed to Isabel Difrancesca, who said she came out because she liked the idea to help low-income folks. She brought pasta but said she was apprehensive about what’s she seen online in anticipation of events.

Richard Johnson and Amy Thompson were walking by the amphitheater when they passed by the rally.

“America, by and large, if you look at the media, thinks that most of America is for defunding the police and is the hard liberal left and wants to riot in the street, and I personally don’t believe the numbers bear that out,” Johnson said.

Barb Galinsky of Denver said she attended the counterprotest because “nobody is judge, jury and executioner and we need to go forward and not backwards.” She said white supremacist groups represent moving backward.

Galinsky said she expected violence at the event Saturday “because that’s what (the right-wing groups) want.”

James Rotten was manning the table of books about communism at the rally and the soup drive as a response to the original rally planned. He led chants such as, “No cops, no KKK, no fascist USA.”

“We think every far-right rally like this wants to be a dangerous race riot,” he said.

In anticipation of the heightened tensions, Denver police said the department “respects the right to peacefully assemble. Those who participate in protests, demonstrations, marches, or other gatherings, as protected by the First Amendment, are reminded to do so in a lawful manner. Individuals who choose to act outside of local, state and federal law, will be subject to citation or arrest.”

Photojournalist Helen Richardson contributed to this report



https://www.denverpost.com/2020/10/...ost&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=social
 
unfortunately, headline all around the country saying it was a BLM protestor who fired the shot. The corrections come after the false headline has spread everywhere

and BLM-Antifa? this is the first I've heard of them
 
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Did they really “yell” police? The guy never mentioned police in the 911 call

seems like a normal law abiding citizen exercising his first amendment right to protect his home from and unknown intruder. This is what we’ve been told is perfectly acceptable for homeowners to do.

sorry but they murdered her
 
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ehizzy3 said:


Did they really “yell” police? The guy never mentioned police in the 911 call

seems like a normal law abiding citizen protecting his first amendment right to protect his home from and unknown intruder. This is what we’ve been told is perfectly acceptable for homeowners to do.

sorry but they murdered her
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I know I'm never going to change your mind, but based upon the known facts it wasn't murder. He was visiting his girl friend and, assuming he didn't hear them identify themselves as police, he legally has a right to defend himself and his girlfriend from unknown intruders. He's not being charged with shooting the cop. The police were there with a legal search warrant. It didn't require them to identify themselves, but there's testimony from the cops and a neighbor that they did. Either way, the police were within the legal authority granted by the warrant to enter the apartment. Once fired upon, they had the legal right to defend themselves as well. Legal rights don't confer immunity from terrible outcomes.

There are a lot of things that stink about this whole affair. From what I've read, the evidence used to get the warrant was very thin and may have been exaggerated to the judge by detective who requested it. You can yell systemic racism until the cows come home about that whole set of circumstances and I won't disagree. There were improprieties during the investigation after the shooting where at least one of the cops involved (the guy who got fired, I believe) was at the scene when he shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near it. There are probably other things I'm not aware of that smell of a possible coverup. I have zero problems with nailing anyone who may have been involved in that kind of crap. All of that said, I sincerely doubt that if any of us were in the position of the police officers who entered the apartment with a legal warrant and were shot at, and one hit by the bullet, would have hesitated to protect ourselves. It's awful, but it isn't murder.
 
e_blazer said:
I know I'm never going to change your mind, but based upon the known facts it wasn't murder. He was visiting his girl friend and, assuming he didn't hear them identify themselves as police, he legally has a right to defend himself and his girlfriend from unknown intruders. He's not being charged with shooting the cop. The police were there with a legal search warrant. It didn't require them to identify themselves, but there's testimony from the cops and a neighbor that they did. Either way, the police were within the legal authority granted by the warrant to enter the apartment. Once fired upon, they had the legal right to defend themselves as well. Legal rights don't confer immunity from terrible outcomes.

There are a lot of things that stink about this whole affair. From what I've read, the evidence used to get the warrant was very thin and may have been exaggerated to the judge by detective who requested it. You can yell systemic racism until the cows come home about that whole set of circumstances and I won't disagree. There were improprieties during the investigation after the shooting where at least one of the cops involved (the guy who got fired, I believe) was at the scene when he shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near it. There are probably other things I'm not aware of that smell of a possible coverup. I have zero problems with nailing anyone who may have been involved in that kind of crap. All of that said, I sincerely doubt that if any of us were in the position of the police officers who entered the apartment with a legal warrant and were shot at, and one hit by the bullet, would have hesitated to protect ourselves. It's awful, but it isn't murder.
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Yeah, it might be just manslaughter because of a flawed search warrant. Whoever was involved in the process of creating and getting the okay for the search warrant might be charged with manslaughter.
 
Lanny said:
Yeah, it might be just manslaughter because of a flawed search warrant. Whoever was involved in the process of creating and getting the okay for the search warrant might be charged with manslaughter.
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I don't know the charges that could be brought, but in my view, that's the point where something criminal may have happened.
 
ehizzy3 said:
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What a crazy system that keeps us uninformed to the point that even the charges presented to a Grand Jury for consideration have to be pried free.

There was an attempt to slip one by, like "yeah, the jury settled on wanton endangerment" followed by downcast sad eyes. This lack of transparency reeks of informational manipulation. And in the classic "pulling back of the curtain," we see how things really work and it sucks. I don't know if the energy is still there, but I suspect if it is, people are going to take to the streets.

And as an aside, all the griping about the media is so misplaced. Without the media spotlight, I can't even imagine what kind of country we'd be living in right now. Sure there is bias, but it doesn't take much to cross reference and get to something real. Just think: this is what they do WITH everyone watching.
 
Propagandist said:
What a crazy system that keeps us uninformed to the point that even the charges presented to a Grand Jury for consideration have to be pried free.

There was an attempt to slip one by, like "yeah, the jury settled on wanton endangerment" followed by downcast sad eyes. This lack of transparency reeks of informational manipulation. And in the classic "pulling back of the curtain," we see how things really work and it sucks. I don't know if the energy is still there, but I suspect if it is, people are going to take to the streets.

And as an aside, all the griping about the media is so misplaced. Without the media spotlight, I can't even imagine what kind of country we'd be living in right now. Sure there is bias, but it doesn't take much to cross reference and get to something real. Just think: this is what they do WITH everyone watching.
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great post

and I'm wondering if the two or three posters here who were using the 'lack' of serious charges to defend the police actions will comment on these revelations. The police fucked up. The judge that gave the police a pass to fuck up, also fucked up. And the authorities that were suppose to find a path to justice decided to cover up the reality and cook up a biased watered down outcome

this is justice denied
 
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Say it ain't so? I mentioned the agent provocateurs wayyyyy back in June, but it largely went unnoticed. Yet, in the months since all of this stuff occurred, it's come to light that white supremacist started the looting at the AutoZone in MPLS and now this revelation, amongst a few others.

"Bu... bu... but, Antifa lit dumpsters on fire... and stuff!"
 
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