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At some point you're going to get a white cop who freezes up during this moment and just let's a person get stabbed because they don't want life in prison or a celebrity to call for their death.
 
Is there a way to...not ignore posters, but ignore anything posted from Andy ngo?
dont know if this was answered (i'm just now catching up) but i think if you block him on twitter, you won't see him here.
 
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Have you watched the video?
Are you telling me that you believe the ONLY POSSIBLE WAY of dealing with that situation was to shoot her? What if it didn't stop her and she stabbed the other kid anyway? What if you hit the other kid (surely a BIG risk)?
 
I think when you get to the point where you think shooting children is a reasonable solution to a problem, your society is fucked.
 
Are you telling me that you believe the ONLY POSSIBLE WAY of dealing with that situation was to shoot her? What if it didn't stop her and she stabbed the other kid anyway? What if you hit the other kid (surely a BIG risk)?

No, I'm not telling you that at all. I'm saying that in watching the video of what happened and how it happened I do not believe this was police misconduct, police abuse, racial profiling, or any of the serious problems so many of us are concerned about.
 
No, I'm not telling you that at all. I'm saying that in watching the video of what happened and how it happened I do not believe this was police misconduct, police abuse, racial profiling, or any of the serious problems so many of us are concerned about.
Mad women with a knife are no different than a mad man with a knife.
 
I disagree. If a cop sees someone about to stab someone else with a knife he/she should be allowed to shoot.
I remember when I was eleven years old. My mother married an ass hole step dad. He was always getting into physical confrontations but he was a high school gym teacher and very physically fit. One evening some guy came over to our house and produced a knife and attacked my new step father. I remember how they went round and round the bedroom/living room where we slept climbing over the bed each time they went around the room. My step father came out on top but I'll never forget what he put me and my eight year old brother thru. Knife attacks are not to be trifled with. I'll never know what it was all about. I would have asked my mother but I was pissed the rest of her life about her marrying that ass hole.
 
Mad women with a knife are no different than a mad man with a knife.

I just want to know why more police departments don't look to Jackie Chan movies for training?

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Would he have shot if it was a middle class white girl?
If it was a mad large white women with a knife threatening to seriously kill people he could have and if the officer was black he would have more than likely used lethal force regardless of color.
 
Qanon is white old people. This forum is ripe with prime suspects.
Look, there was just that one time and yes, I was the one doing the spray painting and starting the fires but I want you to know that hoopguru put me up to it, well, him and Sly. Okay, TyrantofAnts egged us on. You should all hang your heads in shame.
 
wweek.com

David Hernandez Filmed Portland Police Fatally Shoot Robert Delgado in Lents Park: “It Was Horrifying”
By Suzette Smith |

David Hernandez was smoking a joint with a friend in a parking lot at the edge of Lents Park on the morning of April 16, when a man walked over to his auburn-colored Chevrolet Suburban. They exchanged greetings and smoked a little pot together.

Hernandez saw the handle of a gun hanging out of the man’s shirt pocket, obscured slightly by his jacket’s lapel.

“The clip was not in it,” Hernandez says. “I never knew about a BB gun having a clip, but apparently they do.” Had he seen the whole toy replica, he would have noticed the large orange tab at the front, meant to distinguish the toy from a real gun. As it was, Robert Delgado assured Hernandez and his friend that it was merely a BB gun.

The meeting was brief and uneventful; Hernandez says he was too high to remember what they talked about.

Hernandez recorded DeLong shooting Delgado. He allowed WW to record his cellphone video.

Content warning: This video contains images of a violent death and its aftermath.



It shows DeLong aiming at Delgado from 90 feet away, from behind a tree, as Delgado stands shirtless in the grass, tossing around the tent he’d slept in.

The video does not provide any evidence that DeLong violated protocol by shooting Delgado. But what is striking to the layman is how how long officers wait after the shooting before approaching Delgado on foot.

While the video is unclear about what caused police to shoot, Hernandez says he watched as Delgado reached down to pick up an object. Then, he says, DeLong fired.

For the next six minutes after DeLong fired the lethal shot, video shows Delgado lying prone in the grass, moving at least once. Police seem unsure whether Delgado still poses a threat. They issue orders to him over a loudspeaker: “If you reach for that gun again, you will be shot.” One officer appears to fire non-lethal rounds at Delgado, about four minutes after he falls to the grass.

A group of officers finally approaches Delgado, using a rolling patrol vehicle for cover. When they realize he’s dead, they begin placing crime tape at the scene.

Hernandez, who lives in his Chevy Suburban, spoke with WW reporters in the park this afternoon. He showed us his recording and answered questions about what he recalled from that morning in the park.

What did Delgado do after you two hung out?

He was folding up his tent, moving everything towards the fence. Getting ready to do his daily duties.

What made you start filming?

The first two officers showed up. They got out of their cars holding their weapons. And I said, ‘Oh shit, this is gonna be serious,’ so I just started filming.

What did the officers do when they arrived?

They showed up and immediately moved behind that tree. They didn’t talk to him, not till they were behind that tree. It was a little bit of time until they started making commands. They were studying him and looking at him.

When they pulled up, he just got irate, just crazy. I can understand. Not many people like the police. But police made several commands. He didn’t obey them. He bent over to pick something up. I seen it. I seen him pick something up, but I couldn’t see what it was. Soon as he stood up to look at them, they shot him two times from the AR-15.

They hit him, they hit him once. Couple minutes later another officer came around from the other side and shot the body with a beanbag to make sure he was dead. And then everybody approached him.

How was it filming that scene?

It was horrifying. We’ve all seen people passing, but I’ve never seen a life taken before in front of me. That really disturbs me because that’s just not right. If you’re able to see the whole film on my phone, you can understand why I’m really apprehensive about the police now. They don’t get enough training. They don’t. They just don’t.

You never saw him point the BB gun at the police?

No, not at all. A good part of the video he has his hands up. Empty hands, no shirt, and nothing around his waist.

Has the shooting changed your view about policing?

It really has. The officer did not take notes or actually investigate the scene. He jumped out of his car, made commands, shouted orders at the guy. I understand that might be procedure, if someone has a gun. But he came in combative.

How have Portland police treated you?

They were very, very nice. But I’m worried. I’m gonna testify. I’m gonna tell them exactly what I saw, exactly what everybody saw. But what I testify is going to impact the life of that officer. That worries me. I’m exhausted and I didn’t do shit.
 
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wweek.com

David Hernandez Filmed Portland Police Fatally Shoot Robert Delgado in Lents Park: “It Was Horrifying”
By Suzette Smith |

David Hernandez was smoking a joint with a friend in a parking lot at the edge of Lents Park on the morning of April 16, when a man walked over to his auburn-colored Chevrolet Suburban. They exchanged greetings and smoked a little pot together.

Hernandez saw the handle of a gun hanging out of the man’s shirt pocket, obscured slightly by his jacket’s lapel.

“The clip was not in it,” Hernandez says. “I never knew about a BB gun having a clip, but apparently they do.” Had he seen the whole toy replica, he would have noticed the large orange tab at the front, meant to distinguish the toy from a real gun. As it was, Robert Delgado assured Hernandez and his friend that it was merely a BB gun.

The meeting was brief and uneventful; Hernandez says he was too high to remember what they talked about.

Hernandez recorded DeLong shooting Delgado. He allowed WW to record his cellphone video.

Content warning: This video contains images of a violent death and its aftermath.



It shows DeLong aiming at Delgado from 90 feet away, from behind a tree, as Delgado stands shirtless in the grass, tossing around the tent he’d slept in.

The video does not provide any evidence that DeLong violated protocol by shooting Delgado. But what is striking to the layman is how how long officers wait after the shooting before approaching Delgado on foot.

While the video is unclear about what caused police to shoot, Hernandez says he watched as Delgado reached down to pick up an object. Then, he says, DeLong fired.

For the next six minutes after DeLong fired the lethal shot, video shows Delgado lying prone in the grass, moving at least once. Police seem unsure whether Delgado still poses a threat. They issue orders to him over a loudspeaker: “If you reach for that gun again, you will be shot.” One officer appears to fire non-lethal rounds at Delgado, about four minutes after he falls to the grass.

A group of officers finally approaches Delgado, using a rolling patrol vehicle for cover. When they realize he’s dead, they begin placing crime tape at the scene.

Hernandez, who lives in his Chevy Suburban, spoke with WW reporters in the park this afternoon. He showed us his recording and answered questions about what he recalled from that morning in the park.

What did Delgado do after you two hung out?

He was folding up his tent, moving everything towards the fence. Getting ready to do his daily duties.

What made you start filming?

The first two officers showed up. They got out of their cars holding their weapons. And I said, ‘Oh shit, this is gonna be serious,’ so I just started filming.

What did the officers do when they arrived?

They showed up and immediately moved behind that tree. They didn’t talk to him, not till they were behind that tree. It was a little bit of time until they started making commands. They were studying him and looking at him.

When they pulled up, he just got irate, just crazy. I can understand. Not many people like the police. But police made several commands. He didn’t obey them. He bent over to pick something up. I seen it. I seen him pick something up, but I couldn’t see what it was. Soon as he stood up to look at them, they shot him two times from the AR-15.

They hit him, they hit him once. Couple minutes later another officer came around from the other side and shot the body with a beanbag to make sure he was dead. And then everybody approached him.

How was it filming that scene?

It was horrifying. We’ve all seen people passing, but I’ve never seen a life taken before in front of me. That really disturbs me because that’s just not right. If you’re able to see the whole film on my phone, you can understand why I’m really apprehensive about the police now. They don’t get enough training. They don’t. They just don’t.

You never saw him point the BB gun at the police?

No, not at all. A good part of the video he has his hands up. Empty hands, no shirt, and nothing around his waist.

Has the shooting changed your view about policing?

It really has. The officer did not take notes or actually investigate the scene. He jumped out of his car, made commands, shouted orders at the guy. I understand that might be procedure, if someone has a gun. But he came in combative.

How have Portland police treated you?

They were very, very nice. But I’m worried. I’m gonna testify. I’m gonna tell them exactly what I saw, exactly what everybody saw. But what I testify is going to impact the life of that officer. That worries me. I’m exhausted and I didn’t do shit.


Now IMO this was very bad shooting by the Portland Police.

In looking at the video at the time of the shooting the public and/or the police did not seem to in danger.
 
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Look, there was just that one time and yes, I was the one doing the spray painting and starting the fires but I want you to know that hoopguru put me up to it, well, him and Sly. Okay, TyrantofAnts egged us on. You should all hang your heads in shame.
But it wasnt me that dumped that gallon of paint on that grandma’s head!
 
David Hernandez Filmed Portland Police Fatally Shoot Robert Delgado in Lents Park: “It Was Horrifying”
Those cowards are experienced. They have already killed people in the same situations in Afghanistan and Iraq. Their militarized police rules assume we are all their enemies.
 
Hitting her hard with a nightstick would have stopped her just as fast. She didn't need to be killed.

Police are trained as if they're fighting in Afghanistan. FBI trainers believe they're at war with the American people, so use the techniques of war.

Denny thought I was ridiculous to tell him that a 20-year war will change our domestic culture at home. Running a thousand death squads around the world comes home to roost.
 
But it wasnt me that dumped that gallon of paint on that grandma’s head!
Yeah, but grandma flipped me off and called me a no good mother-fucker so she deserved it.
 
That was a tough situation. That girl would've definitely stabbed the other girl, but people are more likely to survive from a knife attack than from being shot. So, you have either one girl get shot dead by a cop or not have the cop there and let them duke it out (with one girl likely stabbed). Sort of seem like having the cop there didn't do much good.
Au contraire, the cop might have saved the life of the defenseless girl. What would you say to the dead defenseless girl's mother if you had not acted in a split second to save her life? I think the officer did the right thing, although it was extremely regrettable that someone had to lose their life.
 
Four Minneapolis cops are fired over the death of a handcuffed black man after video showed white officer kneeling on his neck for six minutes during arrest for forgery as he shouted that he couldn't breathe
  • Four Minneapolis police officers involved in Monday's incident have been fired, police chief announced
  • The cops were seen in video taken on Monday showing a white cop kneeling on the neck of black man George Floyd during his arrest
  • Floyd was heard repeatedly telling cops he is in pain and cannot breathe before eventually losing consciousness
  • Minneapolis Police Department confirmed the man later died in the hospital after 'suffering medical distress'
  • The officers had been responding to a 'forgery in progress,' according to police
  • The two officers in the video were identified as Derek Chauvin and Tou Thao by attorney Ben Crump
  • FBI and state authorities are now investigating man's death
  • The arrest has been compared to cases of police brutality including the likes of Eric Garner, who died in 2014
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...een-kneeling-neck-black-man-moments-died.html
4/21/21 Here is more of the same police tactics. Shoot the person first. Sheriff: Deputy fatally shot Black man while serving warrant (yahoo.com)
 

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