'Black' NAACP leader outed as white woman

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They were republicans.

The party of Lincoln.
 
Denny Crane said:
They were republicans.

The party of Lincoln.
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Oswald Garrison Villard

Villard was also a founder of the American Anti-Imperialist League which favored independence for the territories captured in the Spanish–American War. To further the cause, he worked to organize "a third ticket" in 1900 to challenge William Jennings Bryan and William McKinley. He was joined in this effort by several key veterans of the 1896 National Democratic Party. Not surprisingly, Villard made a personal appeal to ex-president Grover Cleveland, a hero of the gold Democrats, urging him to be the candidate. Cleveland demurred, asserting that voters no longer cared what he had to say. Villard also consistently used the editorial page of the Evening Post to argue against imperialism and expansionism.[1]

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While Villard continued to champion civil liberties, civil rights, and anti-imperialism after World War I, he had largely abandoned his previous belief in laissez-faire economics. During the 1930s, he welcomed the advent of the New Deal and called for nationalization of major industries. In 1943, Villard engaged in a debate with philosopher Ayn Rand on the topic of collectivism versus individualism, sponsored by the American Economic Association, which was published in a number of newspapers.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Garrison_Villard






Mary White Ovington

Influenced by the ideas of William Morris, Ovington joined the Socialist Party of America in 1905, where she met people including A. Philip Randolph, Floyd Dell, Max Eastman and Jack London, who argued that racial problems were as much a matter of class as of race. She wrote for radical journals and newspapers such as The Masses, New York Evening Post and the New York Call. She also worked with Ray Stannard Baker and influenced the content of his book, Following the Color Line, published in 1908.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_White_Ovington
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_English_Walling

William English Walling (1877–1936) (known as "English" to friends and family) was an Americanlaborreformer and SocialistRepublican born into a wealthy family in Louisville, Kentucky. He founded the National Women's Trade Union League in 1903. Moved by his investigation of a 1908 race riot in Springfield, Illinois, he was among the co-founders of the NAACP in 1909.[1]

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Walling was among the white founders of the NAACP, whose founding members included blacks, such as W.E.B. Du Bois from the Niagara Movement. They had some of their first meetings in his New York apartment.[6] Walling served initially as chairman of the NAACP Executive Committee (1910–1911).[6]

Walling became a member of the Republican Party, but quit in 1917 due to the party's opposition to the US entering World War I.
 
Denny Crane said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_English_Walling

William English Walling (1877–1936) (known as "English" to friends and family) was an Americanlaborreformer and SocialistRepublican born into a wealthy family in Louisville, Kentucky. He founded the National Women's Trade Union League in 1903. Moved by his investigation of a 1908 race riot in Springfield, Illinois, he was among the co-founders of the NAACP in 1909.[1]

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Walling was among the white founders of the NAACP, whose founding members included blacks, such as W.E.B. Du Bois from the Niagara Movement. They had some of their first meetings in his New York apartment.[6] Walling served initially as chairman of the NAACP Executive Committee (1910–1911).[6]

Walling became a member of the Republican Party, but quit in 1917 due to the party's opposition to the US entering World War I.
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Seriously, why do you do that? It's like you argue just for the sake of arguing or you think people are too stupid to click the links you provided. Denny, I don't care of Martians created the NAACP. It doesn't really matter.

Anyway, for everyone else reading this here are the parts that Denny didn't include.


Walling became involved in labor and political movements, first working at Hull House in Chicago, an early settlement house. He vowed to live on the equivalent of a worker's wage. Moving to New York City in 1900, he worked as a factory inspector. In 1903 he founded the National Women's Trade Union League.


In 1906, following a lengthy trip to Russia to report on the abortive Russian Revolution of 1905 he married Anna Strunsky, a Jewish immigrant and an aspiring novelist from San Francisco. (She had lived as a child with her family on the Lower East Side before they moved to California.)[3] They had four children together: Rosamond, Anna, Georgia and Hayden.


In 1908 Walling published Russia's Message, a book inspired by the social unrest he and his wife had observed in Russia.[4] He joined the Socialist Party (1910–17), but finally resigned because of its anti-war stance. Walling became convinced that US intervention in the war was needed to defeat the Central Powers.


In 1908 Walling and his wife Anna went to Springfield, Illinois to investigate a race riot that occurred on August 14 of ethnic whites against blacks, related especially to job competition and social change. As a result, Walling wrote an article, "The Race War in the North," for the September 3 issue of The Independent. He said, "the spirit of the abolitionists, of Lincoln and Lovejoy, must be revived and we must come to treat the negro on a plane of absolute political and capitalist equality, or Vardaman and Tillman will soon have transferred the race war to the North."[5] He appealed for a "large and powerful body of citizens to come to their aid."[5]


Mary White Ovington wrote to him in support. She was one among a number of people, white and black, Christians and Jews, who were moved to create a new organization to work for civil rights.[6] Walling was among the white founders of the NAACP, whose founding members included blacks, such as W.E.B. Du Bois from the Niagara Movement. They had some of their first meetings in his New York apartment.[6] Walling served initially as chairman of the NAACP Executive Committee (1910–1911).[6]


Walling became a member of the Republican Party, but quit in 1917 due to the party's opposition to the US entering World War I. His marriage to Anna Strunsky ended at this time, in part due to their disagreement over the United States' role in the conflict.[3]


He later worked full-time for the American Federation of Labor.[2] His books included Socialism As It Is - A Survey of The World-Wide Revolutionary Movement (1912/1918). He published two other books on socialism by 1914, The Larger Aspects of Socialism, and Progressivism and After.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_English_Walling


Denny, this guy may have belonged to the Republican party for a brief time because of his opinions on WWI but he wasn't a Republican. This man was a Socialist. Like I said, I don't give two shits about the political beliefs of the founders of the NAACP but it's pretty clear that most of them were Socialists.
 
Dude, republicans were liberal, socialist, and progressives back then. All things civil rights through the mid 1960s were republican. Republicans freed the slaves, passed the fourteenth amendment, the first two civil rights acts, elected the first dozens of blacks to congress, appointed the justices that wrote brown v board of education, passed the women's vote, and the 1964 civil rights laws.

As much as you can find that one of the founders was a socialist, they were only disaffected republicans. Think of Teddy Roosevelt. He was a progressive, ran as a republican, ran again as a republican in 2012. Formed the Bull-Moose Party to run as a third party candidate. He campaigned for the republican presidential candidate in 1916. I'd say he was a republican.

There were 60 who showed up for the first naacp meeting. At least two were republican, if not most of them. Only 7 were black, all those republicans.

Google mugwumps if you care to learn some of the history.

The Libertarian Party was founded by republicans, too.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
LOL, that seems pretty obvious. Here is some trivia for you, the Tea Party was founded by republicans, too.
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If it splits off into a third party, they're still republicans.

Like, independents in the senate or house caucus with on party or the other.

Bernie Sanders is running for president as a democrat. He's never been in the Democratic Party that I remember.

Doesn't make him a democrat.
 
Denny Crane said:
If it splits off into a third party, they're still republicans.

Like, independents in the senate or house caucus with on party or the other.

Bernie Sanders is running for president as a democrat. He's never been in the Democratic Party that I remember.

Doesn't make him a democrat.
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But according to you someone who joins the republican party for a few months in support for entering WWI makes him a republican for life.
 
I forgot to mention that Nixon created affirmative action and other liberal social programs you wouldn't associate with modern republicans. I think the tide really changed when GHW Bush was president.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
But according to you someone who joins the republican party for a few months in support for entering WWI makes him a republican for life.
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You're factually wrong about the timeline.

He was a republican until 1917. Was all along.
 
Denny Crane said:
You're factually wrong about the timeline.

He was a republican until 1917. Was all along.
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He joined the Socialist Party (1910–17), but finally resigned because of its anti-war stance. Walling became convinced that US intervention in the war was needed to defeat the Central Powers.

Walling became a member of the Republican Party, but quit in 1917 due to the party's opposition to the US entering World War I.







The Socialist Party of America (SPA) was a multi-tendency democratic-socialist political party in the United States, formed in 1901 by a merger between the three-year-old Social Democratic Party of America and disaffected elements of the Socialist Labor Party which had split from the main organization in 1899.[1]


In the first decades of the 20th century, it drew significant support from many different groups, including trade unionists, progressive social reformers, populist farmers, and immigrant communities. Its presidential candidate, Eugene V. Debs, twice won over 900,000 votes (in 1912 and 1920), while the party also elected two United States Representatives (Victor L. Berger and Meyer London), dozens of state legislators, more than a hundred mayors, and countless lesser officials.[2] The party's staunch opposition to American involvement in World War I, although welcomed by many, also led to prominent defections, official repression and vigilante persecution. The organization was further shattered by a factional war over how it should respond to the October Revolution in Russia in 1917 and the establishment of the Communist International in 1919.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_of_America
 
I considered (still do) Ron Paul to be a Libertarian. He had a R next to his name, but didn't vote like a republican of his time.
 
Denny Crane said:
http://inezmb.blogspot.com/2014/10/september-26-death-of-john-milholland.html

September 26 - Death of John Milholland, Sr. in 1895

Last of the Lincoln republicans at the time of his death in 1925.

1st treasurer of naacp.
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Good, we've found one member who was republican. Not all of them were republican like you were claiming. Even the link you just posted claims he was the only WASP republican who founded the NAACP.

It is strange on your insistence that the NAACP is a republican organization. Next you'll be claiming that since you own this site and the Blazers made it their forum that all Blazer fans are libertarians.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Good, we've found one member who was republican. Not all of them were republican like you were claiming. Even the link you just posted claims he was the only WASP republican who founded the NAACP.

It is strange on your insistence that the NAACP is a republican organization. Next you'll be claiming that since you own this site and the Blazers made it their forum that all Blazer fans are libertarians.
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I didn't say "all."

I said it was founded by white republicans. They most certainly weren't democrats.

This woman may or may not be white. If a white republican can be leader of the NAACP, why can't she? I don't get why she had to lie about her true ethnicity.
 
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vanilla ice.jpg Hip hop has recently discovered this guy isn't black as well although he thinks he is
 
Denny Crane said:
You think the oceans are dead. I don't have to make that up.
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LOL, this again?

Yes, I said the oceans were dead. When you challenged me on this I provided multiple links showing that 90% of the large fish are gone. The oceans are overfished and polluted.

You said those studies were completely wrong because you recently saw a bird eating a fish.

After that you went on to post the following links:

1. A report that the oceans were not being overfished that was produced by the fish processing industry.

2. A report from a Canadian university that said that said the scientists got it wrong, 90% of the large fish are not gone.

You seemed really happy about this report, throwing up your arms and doing a victory dance but like you tend to do you only posted part of the report thinking no one would take the time to click on your link. In fact that report stated that in one place in Canada overfishing had gotten to the point where 100% of a large species of fish was overfished out of existence. So yes, 90% was wrong. It was 100%.​

3. Then you posted an article from a public aquarium, their in-depth research included recipes on how to cook fish.

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Again, I say if you kill off 90% of anything that's pretty much the same as saying it's dead while you say that everything is perfectly fine until you reach 100% death.
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SlyPokerDog said:
LOL, this again?

Yes, I said the oceans were dead. When you challenged me on this I provided multiple links showing that 90% of the large fish are gone. The oceans are overfished and polluted.

You said those studies were completely wrong because you recently saw a bird eating a fish.

After that you went on to post the following links:

1. A report that the oceans were not being overfished that was produced by the fish processing industry.

2. A report from a Canadian university that said that said the scientists got it wrong, 90% of the large fish are not gone.

You seemed really happy about this report, throwing up your arms and doing a victory dance but like you tend to do you only posted part of the report thinking no one would take the time to click on your link. In fact that report stated that in one place in Canada overfishing had gotten to the point where 100% of a large species of fish was overfished out of existence. So yes, 90% was wrong. It was 100%.​
3. Then you posted an article from a public aquarium, their in-depth research included recipes on how to cook fish.
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Again, I say if you kill off 90% of anything that's pretty much the same as saying it's dead while you say that everything is perfectly fine until you reach 100% death.
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What do you expect? Denny is the guy who said that John Stockton was not a "pass first point guard."
 
SlyPokerDog said:
LOL, this again?

Yes, I said the oceans were dead. When you challenged me on this I provided multiple links showing that 90% of the large fish are gone. The oceans are overfished and polluted.

You said those studies were completely wrong because you recently saw a bird eating a fish.

After that you went on to post the following links:

1. A report that the oceans were not being overfished that was produced by the fish processing industry.​

2. A report from a Canadian university that said that said the scientists got it wrong, 90% of the large fish are not gone.

You seemed really happy about this report, throwing up your arms and doing a victory dance but like you tend to do you only posted part of the report thinking no one would take the time to click on your link. In fact that report stated that in one place in Canada overfishing had gotten to the point where 100% of a large species of fish was overfished out of existence. So yes, 90% was wrong. It was 100%.​
3. Then you posted an article from a public aquarium, their in-depth research included recipes on how to cook fish.
Again, I say if you kill off 90% of anything that's pretty much the same as saying it's dead while you say that everything is perfectly fine until you reach 100% death.
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Not dead.
 
dead coral reef.jpgMaybe the better term would by dying instead of dead
 
riverman said:
View attachment 5323Maybe the better term would by dying instead of dead
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Seems to me SPD is still arguing it's dead. He'll post a link to some scientists saying they can't catch many of the big fish so they must be mostly gone, yet actual professional fisherman keep catching them. Maybe the scientists are just incompetent at catching fish :)

I live very close to the ocean. It's not dead, and it's not dying. We may have overfished some of the bigger fish (under govt. approval), but they're not gone and I don't see why they'll be fished to 0. They do have babies, and they will produce a sustainable population that allows for plenty of fish to be caught.

Sustainable means 5M fish, we catch 2.5M, and by next year, there's 5M again. That's how it's worked for thousands of years.
 
Do you know what you are?! YOU ARE WHAT U IS! My guess is that she forgot who she usta was!
 
My observation: you have to be a wing-nut (left or right) to care. She was either good at her job, or she wasn't. Yeesh!
 
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