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Asian culture changed my whole mindset about family banking and investment..family is a support system and labor pool in most cases.The elders are cared for, the children are cared for and mom and dad work hard to add to the kitty. Grandparents handle kid education, kids handle parents needs. Everybody saves money.
 
You could still become an airplane mechanic, they exist! :)The Pamela Anderson might be a tough one though

No fukking way. I meant flying cars, not airplanes. Besides, I couldn't sleep at night if I were an airline mechanic. Go home and find a bolt in your pocket when it shouldn't be.

I know they probably have double and triple checks but still.
 
No fukking way. I meant flying cars, not airplanes. Besides, I couldn't sleep at night if I were an airline mechanic. Go home and find a bolt in your pocket when it shouldn't be.

I know they probably have double and triple checks but still.
My dad worked on planes for 8 years in Scotland...I don't have any skill for fixing that stuff..
 
No, because the Japanese make a small amount of the Asian Americans here. But whatever makes you sleep at night
I think those reparations made people whole, but the damages were puny in duration and scale compared to slavery and Jim Crow.
 
I think those reparations made people whole, but the damages were puny in duration and scale compared to slavery and Jim Crow.
Damages were puny?. These people were Americans living in American and forced to be quarantined.

Keep on downplaying a terrible time in American history. There is no need for a comparison, both are terrible.
 
Damages were puny?. These people were Americans living in American and forced to be quarantined.

Keep on downplaying a terrible time in American history. There is no need for a comparison, both are terrible.

IN COMPARISON. One lasted ~5 years, the other ~400 years.

I'm not an FDR fan.
 
The rest of black americans are owed $0 because their ancestors' labor wasn't stolen.

http://www.myslaveancestors.com - people can and do trace their lineage to slaves.

Reparations IS teaching them how to fish. It is granting them the same access to the fisheries as everyone else has enjoyed all along.

We have already spent tens of $trillions on infrastructure, education, jobs, and poverty programs. Why double down on failed results?

Anyone not a descendant of slaves isn't part of this reparations discussion. "What about _______?" is misdirection.

My birth name is Damany Igwe White (dropped my last name and now I'm Damany Iqwé). My family was owned by a plantation owner in Kentucky named Durrett White.

I WANT MY CHEDDAR! :smiley-195517897341
 
Point is, giving money to people generations later from the atrocities doesn't change what happened. Strengthen them to improve themselves.

Speak for people often? I don't know what you're talking about but this would strengthen my family. It would allow me to afford a down payment on a new house or put money in my child's college fund. I think it should be accompanied with mandatory financial advice.
 
This is a very fair point, however I think a good form of reparations would be to spend tax money on historically black neighborhoods that need help. For example more law enforcement in the areas, better schools, supporting small businesses, better infrastructure, etc. Small steps that would lead to actual growth.

Absolutely.

You don't just give your kids wads of cash. They would blow through it in a second. You give them the tools to empower themselves to succeed.

I can't tell you how many times I've given my parents money to see it vanish. Giving people money enables them and doesn't set them up for long term success. Access to college, or improving the neighborhoods would absolutely do so

My grandmother and cousins lived on Vancouver and near Williams. I've lived on Alberta 2 different times. My cousin lived around the corner from Mississippi St. My great grandmother lived in Vanport before the flood. ALL of those neighborhoods (Vanport no longer exists) are gentrified in a major way. There are really no historic Black neighborhoods in Portland anymore. The hipsters are taking over!! :MARIS61: Gresham is the hood now....
 
My grandmother and cousins lived on Vancouver and near Williams. I've lived on Alberta 2 different times. My cousin lived around the corner from Mississippi St. My great grandmother lived in Vanport before the flood. ALL of those neighborhoods (Vanport no longer exists) are gentrified in a major way. There are really no historic Black neighborhoods in Portland anymore. The hipsters are taking over!! :MARIS61: Gresham is the hood now....
Greshams not really the hood. Westsiders just think it is. Rockwood can get shady, but for the most part it's kinda quiet.
 
Greshams not really the hood. Westsiders just think it is. Rockwood can get shady, but for the most part it's kinda quiet.

My point is there is no Black area of town so the "solution" you suggested doesn't work.
 
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White privilege.

40 acres and a mule for white people. Blacks owned as slaves saw zero for their labor.

Fine foundation upun which to build a house that divided cannot stand.

I couldn't find the word "Irish" in jfizzleraider's link.

Obama blew it. He spent $trillions on foolish things, when he could have paid reparations.

Once those are paid, it's every man for himself. I'd have no empathy at that point. It would be fair.

So me, who did nothing, and my tax dollars would go to individuals that were born in the same hospital, went to the same schools because someone over 100 years ago enslaved someone said person never knew?
 
I am in favor of drastically cutting the military budget and reinvesting it in the infrastructure of this country. What I don't want to see is for us to flush a few trillion down the toilet. I would like to actually see some change for the better. Our education system is woefully behind the rest of the world. We need to turn that around, and soon.

I would like to see our military change in two ways:

1. Shift active duty to a much smaller, much more elite, very specialized model. Keep units like Delta, Navy SEALS, Marine Force Recon, etc. I would keep the Navy at close to full strength, but I would reduce the Army and the Air Force significantly. The Marines and the Navy go hand in hand. Having a powerful Navy is probably the most important deterrent, and having subs/carriers/missile cruisers is much more important than having bomber bases (sorry airforce).

2. Implement a system that gives free education and free health care to people who enlist with their national guard. The caveat is that the National Guard can not be called up unless we are actually being invaded. Zero deployments. The intention of the national guard was not to deploy overseas. That defeats the whole purpose of having trained force that can be called up in an emergency. While people are registered with the national guard, they can attend school free of charge.
 
So me, who did nothing, and my tax dollars would go to individuals that were born in the same hospital, went to the same schools because someone over 100 years ago enslaved someone said person never knew?

It's the price for your white privilege.
 
Slavery existed in North America long before any white man set foot on its shores. What's your point?

What's your point?

African slaves are all that matter for this kind of reparations.
 
What's your point?

African slaves are all that matter for this kind of reparations.

Well you're specifically talking about the US government paying reparations, so you can't say "400 years of slavery" because the US government didn't exist for 400 years. Actually, that's a good point. Maybe the Brits should have to toss in on this. And maybe some of the American Indian tribes as well, because they owned black slaves.
 
Well you're specifically talking about the US government paying reparations, so you can't say "400 years of slavery" because the US government didn't exist for 400 years. Actually, that's a good point. Maybe the Brits should have to toss in on this. And maybe some of the American Indian tribes as well, because they owned black slaves.
Maybe. But the cost of reparations I gave started in 1790.

Slavery existed here for centuries prior. Japanese internment existed for ~5 years.
 
Denny, if you want to get your black slave reparations bill passed, you need to broaden your support base.

I just happen to represent all of the dog owners with female dogs that are bulimic lesbians. If you throw a couple trillion dollars our way, payable directly to the dog owners of course. We will make sure our dogs receive the proper guidance to work through their emotional problems from many decades of sexism abuse. And we will help you pass your bill.

You scratch my back and I will scratch yours politics has been running up huge deficits working for many decades.
 
Denny, if you want to get your black slave reparations bill passed, you need to broaden your support base.

I just happen to represent all of the dog owners with female dogs that are bulimic lesbians. If you throw a couple trillion dollars our way, payable directly to the dog owners of course. We will make sure our dogs receive the proper guidance to work through their emotional problems from many decades of sexism abuse. And we will help you pass your bill.

You scratch my back and I will scratch yours politics has been running up huge deficits working for many decades.

Hey back off fish man, I'm the voice of dogs around here.
 
They came as slaves; vast human cargo transported on tall British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.

Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. They were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.

We don’t really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade.

But, are we talking about African slavery? King James II and Charles I also led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s famed Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.

Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.

As an example, the African slave trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African slaves, not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.

African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling). Irish slaves came cheap (no more than 5 Sterling). If a planter whipped or branded or beat an Irish slave to death, it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African. The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master’s free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude.

In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.

England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.

There is little question that the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much (if not more in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry. In 1839, Britain finally decided on it’s own to end it’s participation in Satan’s highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded THIS chapter of nightmarish Irish misery.

But, if anyone, black or white, believes that slavery was only an African experience, then they’ve got it completely wrong.

Irish slavery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.

But, where are our public (and PRIVATE) schools???? Where are the history books? Why is it so seldom discussed?

Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims merit more than a mention from an unknown writer?

Or is their story to be one that their English pirates intended: To (unlike the African book) have the Irish story utterly and completely disappear as if it never happened.

None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost slaves; the ones that time and biased history books conveniently forgot.
From the book white cargo


http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
Does that mean I can get paid too Denny?
 
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