Black People can't be racist

[Natebishop3]

From the book white cargo


http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
Does that mean I can get paid too Denny?

White privilege. Sorry bro.

 

[Denny Crane]

From the book white cargo


http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
Does that mean I can get paid too Denny?

File a lawsuit. Make the case.

 

[Denny Crane]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/beyondslavery/liam-hogan/‘irish-slaves’-convenient-myth

‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

The conflation of indentured servitude with chattel slavery in the ‘Irish slaves’ narrative whitewashes history in the service of Irish nationalist and white supremacist causes. Its resurgence in the wake of Ferguson reflects many Americans’ denial of the entrenched racism still prevalent in their society.

It was with a heavy heart and no small amount of anger that I decided it was necessary to write a public refutation of the insidious myth that the Irish were once chattel slaves in the British colonies. The subject of this myth is not an issue in academic circles, for there is unanimous agreement, based on overwhelming evidence, that the Irish were never subjected to perpetual, hereditary slavery in the colonies, based on notions of ‘race’. Unfortunately this is not the case in the public domain and the ‘Irish slaves’ myth has been shared so frequently online that it has gone viral.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/beyondslavery/liam-hogan/‘irish-slaves’-convenient-myth

‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

The conflation of indentured servitude with chattel slavery in the ‘Irish slaves’ narrative whitewashes history in the service of Irish nationalist and white supremacist causes. Its resurgence in the wake of Ferguson reflects many Americans’ denial of the entrenched racism still prevalent in their society.

It was with a heavy heart and no small amount of anger that I decided it was necessary to write a public refutation of the insidious myth that the Irish were once chattel slaves in the British colonies. The subject of this myth is not an issue in academic circles, for there is unanimous agreement, based on overwhelming evidence, that the Irish were never subjected to perpetual, hereditary slavery in the colonies, based on notions of ‘race’. Unfortunately this is not the case in the public domain and the ‘Irish slaves’ myth has been shared so frequently online that it has gone viral.

Next you'll be saying there weren't any snakes in Ireland.

 

[Denny Crane]

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-th...se-position-was-far-worse-than-African-slaves

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's the price for your white privilege.

Completely asinine

 

[Denny Crane]

Completely asinine

Ignorance is no excuse.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/beyondslavery/liam-hogan/‘irish-slaves’-convenient-myth

‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

The conflation of indentured servitude with chattel slavery in the ‘Irish slaves’ narrative whitewashes history in the service of Irish nationalist and white supremacist causes. Its resurgence in the wake of Ferguson reflects many Americans’ denial of the entrenched racism still prevalent in their society.

It was with a heavy heart and no small amount of anger that I decided it was necessary to write a public refutation of the insidious myth that the Irish were once chattel slaves in the British colonies. The subject of this myth is not an issue in academic circles, for there is unanimous agreement, based on overwhelming evidence, that the Irish were never subjected to perpetual, hereditary slavery in the colonies, based on notions of ‘race’. Unfortunately this is not the case in the public domain and the ‘Irish slaves’ myth has been shared so frequently online that it has gone viral.

Lmao Denny. of course you would post that. "Indentured servitude" isn't slavery I guess. But when you control a person and won't let them leave your compound by holding the children hostage, I guess you'd have a point if SlyPokerDog is an asshole.

 

[Denny Crane]

Lmao Denny. of course you would post that. "Indentured servitude" isn't slavery I guess. But when you control a person and won't let them leave your compound by holding the children hostage, I guess you'd have a point if SlyPokerDog is an asshole.

Indentured servitude was a means to pay off a debt. It had a term/time limit associated. Nobody was born and died an indentured servant.

It sure seems that no historian worth his salt agrees with you.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Indentured servitude was a means to pay off a debt. It had a term/time limit associated. Nobody was born and died an indentured servant.

It sure seems that no historian worth his salt agrees with you.

Sooooo raping these women, and having them give birth, then after there indentured servitude was up, keeping the kids as slaves so the women couldn't leave isn't slavery and manipulation?

Whatever dude.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Ignorance is no excuse.

So because the Government is ignorant, I have to pay money to my neighbor because someone enslaved his great, great, great, great uncle?

Should I be forced to give him my lawnmower also? I mean it's only fair, right?

I'm so sorry for what I never did to them...

Then again no one has done anything to them.

Can we deduct the value of goods looted from the amount to be paid?

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I was able to grab a picture of Denny above guys

 

[Denny Crane]

So because the Government is ignorant, I have to pay money to my neighbor because someone enslaved his great, great, great, great uncle?

Should I be forced to give him my lawnmower also? I mean it's only fair, right?

I'm so sorry for what I never did to them...

Then again no one has done anything to them.

Can we deduct the value of goods looted from the amount to be paid?

You have to pay taxes, and that is that.

 

[Denny Crane]

Sooooo raping these women, and having them give birth, then after there indentured servitude was up, keeping the kids as slaves so the women couldn't leave isn't slavery and manipulation?

Whatever dude.

It seems no historian worth his salt agrees with your version of events.

 

[Mediocre Man]

You have to pay taxes, and that is that.

Im happy to. Why is it going to descendents of slaves though. I like thecwhole school, roads, civil servant approach

 

[SlyPokerDog]

So because the Government is ignorant, I have to pay money to my neighbor because someone enslaved his great, great, great, great uncle?

Should I be forced to give him my lawnmower also? I mean it's only fair, right?

I'm so sorry for what I never did to them...

Then again no one has done anything to them.

Can we deduct the value of goods looted from the amount to be paid?

What exactly has your black neighbor looted from you?

 

[Mediocre Man]

What exactly has your black neighbor looted from you?

He hasnt...although he has never returned my rake.

If they are all getting paid, they all have to be included in the deduction of looting funds.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Not all European servants were sent willingly. Several instances of kidnapping for transportation to the Americas are recorded and this falls more clearly into the category of "white slavery". While these white slaves were often indentured in the same way as their willing counterparts it is an important distinction. An illustrative example is that of Peter Williamson (1730–1799). As historian Richard Hofstadter pointed out, "Although efforts were made to regulate or check their activities, and they diminished in importance in the eighteenth century, it remains true that a certain small part of the white colonial population of America was brought by force, and a much larger portion came in response to deceit and misrepresentation on the part of the spirits [recruiting agents]."[7]

Indentures could not marry without the permission of their owner, were subject to physical punishment (like many young ordinary servants), and saw their obligation to labor enforced by the courts. To ensure uninterrupted work by the female servants, the law lengthened the term of their indenture if they became pregnant. But unlike slaves, servants were guaranteed to be eventually released from bondage. At the end of their term they received a payment known as "freedom dues" and become free members of society.[8] One could buy and sell indentured servants' contracts, and the right to their labor would change hands, but not the person as a piece of property.

There's one for you sweetie

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Btw, I like how you're marginalizing a horrible time in the world.

Both were terrible, call it slavery or indentured servitude, these people were held against their will, treated like shit. Sometimes forced to come over into this servitude, and raped.

Only an asshole would call it indentured servitude

 

[SlyPokerDog]

He hasnt...although he has never returned my rake.

If they are all getting paid, they all have to be included in the deduction of looting funds.

 

[Denny Crane]

A certain small percentage was brought by force.

They were freed and given freedom dues (reparations).

What else you got?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Btw, I like how you're marginalizing a horrible time in the world.

Both were terrible, call it slavery or indentured servitude, these people were held against their will, treated like shit. Sometimes forced to come over into this servitude, and raped.

Only an asshole would call it indentured servitude

That's not completely accurate, when the British were setting up tobacco plantations on the east coast they found indentured servitude was much better than slavery. A person would work for X amount of years and then be given a tract of land for them to live and farm on. Slavery... well I hope I don't need to explain what slavery is.

 

[dviss1]

He hasnt...although he has never returned my rake.

If they are all getting paid, they all have to be included in the deduction of looting funds.

Man! Rakes are expensive! I need my rake reparations!!! :MARIS61:

 

[dviss1]

Wrote a song bout' it!!!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Wrote a song bout' it!!!

Wrote or looted?

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

That's not completely accurate, when the British were setting up tobacco plantations on the east coast they found indentured servitude was much better than slavery. A person would work for X amount of years and then be given a tract of land for them to live and farm on. Slavery... well I hope I don't need to explain what slavery is.

Sure, some of them were indentured servants. But they wete treated like absolute garbage. And raped, then the children were turned into slaves. Some were forced against their wills. Is that still indentured servants?

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Sorry Denny, but the cold harsh truth is given the terrible conditions, many of these people wouldn't live to see freedom dues because they would die due to the conditions and beatings they took

 

[Mediocre Man]

Man! Rakes are expensive! I need my rake reparations!!! :MARIS61:

Its an ames jackson rake. NOT a laughing matter. It doesnt matter that he used it to do my lawn for almost a full year while I was in the hospital. Its my rake, damnit.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

And you're right, the historian said a small part were forced. He then goes on to say a larger portion were deceived and lied to

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Just read up on some reparation proposals for black Americans talk. Here was a proposal made in 2008. For those blacks who wish to remain in America, they should receive reparations in the form of free education, free medical, free legal and free financial aid for 50 years with no taxes levied," and "For those desiring to leave America, every black person would receive a million dollars or more, backed by gold, in reparation.

I actually think that's a good plan