Blazer "dealing with rejection" in GM search

[PapaG]

You supported Nate until the bitter end.

That has nothing to do with your latest beef.

You had a logical failure. Sorry.

 

[Natebishop3]

You supported Nate until the bitter end.

He played devil's advocate until the bitter end. There's a difference.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I really think that's the best course of action. I wish Paul would sell the team and the new owner would completely clean house.

New management.

New training staff.

New coaching staff.

Everything. Fire them all. New marketing staff. Call it "the great purge of 2012".

And just as important: NEW SCOUTS!

The International scouts have been just as bad. Batum, once a projected top-10 pick, fell to the Blazers. That was a no-brainer.

Claver?

Koponen?

Khryapa?

Monia?

Seung-Jin?

o0

 

[PapaG]

I really think that's the best course of action. I wish Paul would sell the team and the new owner would completely clean house.

New management.

New training staff.

New coaching staff.

Everything. Fire them all. New marketing staff. Call it "the great purge of 2012".

If Paul could step back and allow people that know what they're doing to run the show, I don't care if he stays as owner. That said, which good basketball mind wants to come and be a jester in the Bert Kolde Kingdom? Paul has a lot of money, which has been nice as a Blazer fan, but he doesn't know how to spend it, which is obvious when you see his shrinking fortune, compared to other billionaires.

 

[Natebishop3]

If Paul could step back and allow people that know what they're doing to run the show, I don't care if he stays as owner. That said, which good basketball mind wants to come and be a jester in the Bert Kolde Kingdom? Paul has a lot of money, which has been nice as a Blazer fan, but he doesn't know how to spend it, which is obvious when you see his shrinking fortune, compared to other billionaires.

And that's the problem. Paul is not a business man. He has no idea what he's doing so he pays others to know what he's doing. It's not working for this franchise.

 

[PapaG]

And that's the problem. Paul is not a business man. He has no idea what he's doing so he pays others to know what he's doing. It's not working for this franchise.

He pays others, let allows himself and his inner circle to have influence. That's the primary problem, IMO.

 

[Natebishop3]

He pays others, let allows himself and his inner circle to have influence. That's the primary problem, IMO.

Yeah. I think it's worth it to give up his wealth to have a decent owner/owners.

 

[jlprk]

He played devil's advocate until the bitter end. There's a difference.

If he didn't really mean it, why is he still sarcastic about Van Gundy or D'Antoni or Thibodeau being Coach of the Decade? He still criticizes McMillan's firing as much as ever.

 

[Natebishop3]

If he didn't really mean it, why is he still sarcastic about Van Gundy or D'Antoni or Thibodeau being Coach of the Decade? He still criticizes McMillan's firing as much as ever.

Because he's PapaG

 

[jlprk]

If Paul could step back and allow people that know what they're doing to run the show, I don't care if he stays as owner. That said, which good basketball mind wants to come and be a jester in the Bert Kolde Kingdom?

What a naive view of how owners of any company act. So you want him to fork over the money and control without being closely involved. What are you, 12?

Paul has a lot of money, which has been nice as a Blazer fan, but he doesn't know how to spend it, which is obvious when you see his shrinking fortune, compared to other billionaires.

What feigned ignorance of Allen's charity. So you don't like him forking over the money and control to his many, many grateful recipients. What are you, Scrooge?

You are one confused, inconsistent little puppy.

 

[PapaG]

If he didn't really mean it, why is he still sarcastic about Van Gundy or D'Antoni or Thibodeau being Coach of the Decade? He still criticizes McMillan's firing as much as ever.

Wrong. Stop lying.

I said it was time for Nate to go, and I've never said it was wrong to fire him.

 

[PapaG]

What a naive view of how owners of any company act. So you want him to fork over the money and control without being closely involved. What are you, 12?



What feigned ignorance of Allen's charity. So you don't like him forking over the money and control to his many, many grateful recipients. What are you, Scrooge?

You are one confused, inconsistent little puppy.

OK

Thanks for sharing all of that.

 

[jlprk]

Wrong. Stop lying. I said it was time for Nate to go, and I've never said it was wrong to fire him.

You continue to use McMillan's departure in your list of what management has done wrong. You ridicule the best coaches as not being any better.

OK. Thanks for sharing all of that.

You contradicted yourself within the same post over just what you don't like about Allen.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Some quick names of people I have been thinking PA could have spoken to

Kiki Vandeweghe

Mark Warkentien

Randy Pfund


I am not in any way supporting or poo pooing any of those names, just throwing them out there as potential guys he spoke to that fit Quick's description

 

[blazedanugz]

Some quick names of people I have been thinking PA could have spoken to

Kiki Vandeweghe

Mark Warkentien

Randy Pfund


I am not in any way supporting or poo pooing any of those names, just throwing them out there as potential guys he spoke to that fit Quick's desc

ription

They have said a couple time wark was not a candidate over the past year. pfund was interviewed for the position either before cho or right after he was fired I can't remember.. But I'm pretty sure they said he would not be considered

 

[RR7]

Some quick names of people I have been thinking PA could have spoken to

Kiki Vandeweghe

Mark Warkentien

Randy Pfund


I am not in any way supporting or poo pooing any of those names, just throwing them out there as potential guys he spoke to that fit Quick's description

Chris Mullin, perhaps, fits into that criteria?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Chris Mullin, perhaps, fits into that criteria?

Ya he would, good call.

So would Jeff Bower, former Hornets GM

 

[Blaze01]

I am just shocked that any top tier candidate wouldn't want to work with.....err...report to....err follow the marching orders of....Allen, Kolde and Miller.....

does that need to be in green font or is it just too damm obvious?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I am just shocked that any top tier candidate wouldn't want to work with.....err...report to....err follow the marching orders of....Allen, Kolde and Miller.....

does that need to be in green font or is it just too damm obvious?

I for one did not need the green font.

 

[Boise Blazer]

I am just shocked that any top tier candidate wouldn't want to work with.....err...report to....err follow the marching orders of....Allen, Kolde and Miller.....

does that need to be in green font or is it just too damm obvious?

Wait, what's green font mean? I dont get it ))

 

[HailBlazers]

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports told John Canzano on 750 AM The Game

There's a pair with no ulterior motives

 

[Nikolokolus]

Canzano is a hack, but love him or hate him, Woj is right (and usually first) more often than not. Everybody heaped scorn on him when he dared to suggest that KP wasn't well regarded by his peers around the league and might be on the hot-seat in Portland and look how that turned out?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Woj is the absolute best source for NBA news.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Woj is the absolute best source for NBA news.

No doubt about that - he's been spot-on the last few years on many things, especially around draft days and various deadlines. Nobody else has come close.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Woj proved he's the best last year during the trade deadline and the draft -- he owned it.

Everything isn't all glitter and unicorns like MB likes to spin.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Apparently Kiki has not interviewed for the position, but says it is an attractive position. Would not comment on whether or not the Blazers had contacted him.

Chris Haynes ‏ @ChrisBHaynes
Kiki Vandeweghe declined to comment when asked if #Blazers contacted him.

Chris Haynes ‏ @ChrisBHaynes
Kiki Vandeweghe calls #Blazers GM position "attractive." He has not interviewed 4 position, but he would


Haynes is rocking this Kiki interview. Follow along on Twitter

 

[ironcrotch]

http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landingb...tland-GM-job-att=1&blockID=704308&feedID=5212

In 2001, Vandeweghe took over the Nuggets' GM role and helped create $20 million in cap space over the next two years as well as cleared $150 million during his five seasons as the team's GM. He traded Raef LaFrentz, Shareef Abdur Rahim, Nick Van Excel and aquired Juwan Howard, Tim Hardaway, Donnell Harvey and two first round picks. He proceeded to trade Antonio McDyess to the New York Knicks for Marcus Camby and a first round pick. That pick ended up later being Nene Hilario.

The new flexibility allowed the Nuggets to re-sign Camby and signed free agents Andre Miller and Kenyon Martin. Then of course in 2003, Carmelo Anthony was drafted and the team made the playoffs for the first time since 1995 and haven't missed the playoffs since.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Woj proved he's the best last year during the trade deadline and the draft -- he owned it.

Everything isn't all glitter and unicorns like MB likes to spin.

It's all in the perspective. Glitter and unicorns terrify me - so in that context, I'm terrified about the Blazers' current position.

Kidding aside, I am getting tired of MB's constant spin. No disrespect to MB, I'm a big fan and I know he's getting paid by the Blazers, so I should expect no different. But he spins so much so frequently, for those of us fans that really like the guy, but we're not flat-out dumb, it's almost unreal that he keeps peddling pure crap like we fans really are going to believe it. Does he really think we're that dumb? Or is he that much of a whore for the organization (apologies for calling him a whore, again I love MB and am big fan, but for lack of a better word)?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landingb...tland-GM-job-att=1&blockID=704308&feedID=5212

Funny thing about this post.... most of the guys listed that Kiki traded away, we traded for (not immediately, and not directly from Denver, of course). Not sure what it says about his performance, or the performance of our organization, but still thought it was kinda funny.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's all in the perspective. Glitter and unicorns terrify me - so in that context, I'm terrified about the Blazers' current position.

Kidding aside, I am getting tired of MB's constant spin. No disrespect to MB, I'm a big fan and I know he's getting paid by the Blazers, so I should expect no different. But he spins so much so frequently, for those of us fans that really like the guy, but we're not flat-out dumb, it's almost unreal that he keeps peddling pure crap like we fans really are going to believe it. Does he really think we're that dumb? Or is he that much of a whore for the organization (apologies for calling him a whore, again I love MB and am big fan, but for lack of a better word)?

I think you can be an employee of the team, and still be somewhat honest. Instead of a line of great names wanting the GM job, maybe say it's not the job it used to be, but the management group is working hard, and have quality names to look at