Blazer/Pacer game thread

[MARIS61]

Man... look at those stats again. Miller= SEVEN. SEVEN! In like 20 games, he got Oden a basket SEVEN times! And yet everyone says that Blake doesn't get Oden the ball.

Steve is the Bee's Knees!

 

[B-Roy]

Man... look at those stats again. Miller= SEVEN. SEVEN! In like 20 games, he got Oden a basket SEVEN times! And yet everyone says that Blake doesn't get Oden the ball.

Take those stats with a grain of salt, do you know the amount of minutes Miller plays with Oden compared to the amount of minutes Blake plays with Oden?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Watch the games.

Yeah, I watch all the games ... again. This "Drive and dish Steve" of which you speak does not exist. I've seen "Around the Horn Steve" and "Overdribble and bail Steve" and usually "Catch and Shoot Steve", but to claim that Steve drives and somehow regularly collpases defenses to create looks for teammates is just beyond ridiculous.

 

[RoyToy]

Entry passes where Oden waits for his teammate to clear doesn't count as an assist, and maybe Greg misses some of the shots that Miller sets up that could be an assist. Assists aren't necessarily the best measuring tool here.

 

[KingSpeed]

Yeah, I watch all the games ... again. This "Drive and dish Steve" of which you speak does not exist. I've seen "Around the Horn Steve" and "Overdribble and bail Steve" and usually "Catch and Shoot Steve", but to claim that Steve drives and somehow regularly collpases defenses to create looks for teammates is just beyond ridiculous.

Check out 1:08, 1:55

[video=youtube;Kcbq0Uz1WWo]

 

[KingSpeed]

Entry passes where Oden waits for his teammate to clear doesn't count as an assist, .

Those also rarely count as points because Oden doesn't have a great post game. But when Blake sets up Oden for wide open dunks, he can't miss!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Check out 1:08, 1:55

You're like the king of the single sample.

Almost any player can occasionally get hot and step outside of themselves, but Blake's completely anemic free throw rate for his whole career backs up what I see from Blake in general and that is he does not penetrate into the lane, he does not collapse defenses, and he doesn't create opportunities for his teammates. Not never, but close enough to never that it's not enough of a difference to worry about.

Blake's draw foul rate is 1.3%
http://www.82games.com/0910/09POR1.HTM

Think about that for a second. Blake gets fouled on 1.3% of his possessions ... does that sound like the calling card of a player who penetrates into the lane?

 

[barfo]

Think about that for a second. Blake gets fouled on 1.3% of his possessions ... does that sound like the calling card of a player who penetrates into the lane?

He's so good at it they can't touch him.

barfo

 

[KingSpeed]

He's so good at it they can't touch him.

barfo

Thank you.

 

[Boise Blazer]

Well, now I have a whole new problem here guys. I have no idea who is more stubborn, the Blazers coaching staff or KingSpeed? They are neck and neck coming down the stretch.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Well, now I have a whole new problem here guys. I have no idea who is more stubborn, the Blazers coaching staff or KingSpeed? They are neck and neck coming down the stretch.

Eric is passionate, the coaching staff is pathetic.

 

[Boise Blazer]

Eric is passionate, the coaching staff is pathetic.

I can certainly respect his loyalty for both the team and for Blake. Unofrtunately its that same kind of lotalty for Blake from our coaching staff that is killing this team.

 

[BBert]

au contraire

Assists to Oden:

LMA: 6
Martell: 2
Blake: 13
Miller: 7
Roy: 13
Rudy: 6
Howard: 2
Bayless: 1


Now, if someone wants to figure out how many minutes he played with each, so we can get an assist per minute breakdown, that'd be great.

That's fine, but in the games I've been fortunate enough to watch, Miller tends to set Greg up in the low post and Greg then goes to work. Miller does not get an assist for those. Maybe that's mostly play calling so it doesn't matter who is passing it down to him, but Miller is better at the post entry pass, imo, and when Miller was allowed to run the offense and call his own plays, that's the play he called, repeatedly. In my limited observation, Miller gets the ball to Oden where he can do something with it, even though he may not get an assist.

 

[BBert]

Entry passes where Oden waits for his teammate to clear doesn't count as an assist, and maybe Greg misses some of the shots that Miller sets up that could be an assist. Assists aren't necessarily the best measuring tool here.

You beat me to it. Only by a day or so, LOL.

 

[hasoos]

You know folks keep bringing up Oden. It's like in those war movies where somebody gets killed and some soldier is sitting their shocked and the sergeant screams "HE'S GONE MAN, HE's GONE" and tries to get the soldier back into action. The facts are, he's gone man. Lets move on.

 

[BBert]

You know folks keep bringing up Oden. It's like in those war movies where somebody gets killed and some soldier is sitting their shocked and the sergeant screams "HE'S GONE MAN, HE's GONE" and tries to get the soldier back into action. The facts are, he's gone man. Lets move on.

I'll try. It's not gonna be easy.

But I'm still going to argue about Blake over Miller. Please....

 

[Minstrel]

You know folks keep bringing up Oden. It's like in those war movies where somebody gets killed and some soldier is sitting their shocked and the sergeant screams "HE'S GONE MAN, HE's GONE" and tries to get the soldier back into action. The facts are, he's gone man. Lets move on.

He'll come back someday. I just know it. He's only sleeping.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Thank you.

Right. Getting to the FT line and getting the other team in foul trouble would be a really bad thing. Thank Wotan that Blake is saving us from that fate.

We must play Blake to keep Roy happy and make him a better player. Starting Blake is the reason Roy always gets off to such fast starts and plays so well in the first quarter.

Oh....wait.....

Roy is a notoriously slow starter. He almost never plays well in the 1st quarter. So what exactly is Blake doing out there early in the game?