Blazers 2nd round selection is.....

[TBpup]

I love the Draft, so hope the Blazers either get another pick, or move up from #46 for someone they have targeted.

• Celtics have 3 1st round picks
• 76'ers have 4 2nd round picks
• Kings have 2 2nd round picks

Olshey has a history with both the Kings, and the 76'ers GM, Morey. Who would you want to move up from #46 to get earlier in the 2nd round?

 

[MickZagger]

I don’t think Pritchard will be spectacular. But I think he’ll be a contributor and stick in the league especially after the development of NBA 3 range. He’s a steady PG, plays solid defense, makes the smart play and makes his teammates better.

Look, if TJ McConnell can stick in the league and be a decent contributor theres no doubt in my mind Pritchard can. I watched McConnell at Arizona and Pritchard is easily the better player at that level and I think his game translates even more.

I used to not be sold on Pritchard but after his shortened season last year he improved immensely. I’d take a shot with him in the 2nd round as a backup PG. He’d be good practice fodder for Dame as Pritchard really brings it defensively as well.

 

[tester551]

I love the Draft, so hope the Blazers either get another pick, or move up from #46 for someone they have targeted.

• Celtics have 3 1st round picks
• 76'ers have 4 2nd round picks
• Kings have 2 2nd round picks

Olshey has a history with both the Kings, and the 76'ers GM, Morey. Who would you want to move up from #46 to get earlier in the 2nd round?

It doesn't matter who we want.... I think its a foregone conclusion that Olshey will draft Scrubb.

However, I would love for Portland to pick up another 2nd rounder for cash & draft Tyler Bey, Paul Reed, Reggie Perry, Sam Merrill, or N'Doye to be signed on a 2-way contract.

 

[MickZagger]

It doesn't matter who we want.... I think its a foregone conclusion that Olshey will draft Scrubb.

However, I would love for Portland to pick up another 2nd rounder for cash & draft Tyler Bey, Paul Reed, Reggie Perry, Sam Merrill, or N'Doye to be signed on a 2-way contract.

If Scrubb is available at 46

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

If Scrubb is available at 46

Just saw this at BE: "Oft-rumored Trail Blazers target Jay Scrubb was not among Givony’s Top 60 picks."

 

[lawai'a]

It doesn't matter who we want.... I think its a foregone conclusion that Olshey will draft Scrubb.

However, I would love for Portland to pick up another 2nd rounder for cash & draft Tyler Bey, Paul Reed, Reggie Perry, Sam Merrill, or N'Doye to be signed on a 2-way contract.

Reed. long atheletic 4/5 with a decent chance at developing 3pt. range.

 

[42N8Bounce]

A look back at some of the Blazers notable 2nd rounders -

Anthony Mason. Pick #53, 1988
- All-Star 2000-01, Miami

Dražen Petrović. Pick #60, 1986
- All-NBA Third Team (1993), New Jersey


Patty Mills. Pick #55, 2009
- NBA Champion 2014, San Antonio Spurs


Jerome Kersey. Pick #46, 1984
- NBA Champion 1999, San Antonio Spurs


Cliff Robinson, Pick #36, 1989
- NBA All-Star 1994, Portland
- 1380 Career NBA Games Played


Larry Steele, Pick #37, 1971
- NBA Champion 1977, Portland
- NBA Steels Leader, 1974


Lloyd Neal, Pick #31, 1972
- NBA Champion 1977, Portland


Did I miss anyone?

 

[MickZagger]

Gary Trent Jr. will be there someday. Will Barton

 

[Buffalo Custard]

46 is a good spot for an end of the bench shooter for spot minutes.

Any thoughts on this kid? He doesn't need any space to get off a shot.

Victim of ageism. Seriously. If he was 2-3 years younger he would be a lock to be drafted. Instead, there is a good chance he is an UDFA.

 

[FlyinSouth]

I would love to see if Pritchard falls that far but I think they might go for N' Doye out of France. He is a bit older and may fit better for a competitive run now. At 6' 7" with a 7' 3" wingspan he may be worth a shot as a versatile perimeter defender and energy guy! If not him a 4 year guy out of college that offers the same attributes.

 

[blazerkor]

I would love to see if Pritchard falls that far but I think they might go for N' Doye out of France. He is a bit older and may fit better for a competitive run now. At 6' 7" with a 7' 3" wingspan he may be worth a shot as a versatile perimeter defender and energy guy! If not him a 4 year guy out of college that offers the same attributes.

That's my guy if we're picking at 46. His defense is badass and he can effectively run an offense (handle the rock and make really good passes)... that's enough for me.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Jesus Christ! I can remember when a FIRST rounder was $3M

 

[calvin natt]

I would never ever take Killian Tillie. I would sell that pick way before I would take him

 

[B-Roy]

Jesus Christ! I can remember when a FIRST rounder was $3M

Speculation is that the cash is actually to facilitate paying Ariza's salary.

 

[MickZagger]

I would never ever take Killian Tillie. I would sell that pick way before I would take him

It’s a late 2nd. 90% of them don’t pan out anyways. Don’t lose sleep over it.

 

[FlyinSouth]

Would the Blazers consider Mannion? That might be an upside win?

 

[FlyinSouth]

CJ Eleby Hmmn!! Seems like a reach!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports...-early-jump-to-nba-wsu-coach-kyle-smith-says/

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

And of course Yam Madar goes the next pick. Figures.

 

[illmatic99]

Every single one of Neil's second round picks is still in the NBA and received a second contract.

2012- 40. Will Barton
2013- 31. Allen Crabbe
2015- 41. Pat Connaughton
2016 - 47. Jake Layman
2018- 37. Gary Trent Jr.

Every. Single. One. Hit rate of 100%

Elleby it is.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

BJ Eleby Hmmn!! Seems like a reach!

that’s what she said

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Now that's better! I hate those videos where they show all the bad shots he takes and misses.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Now that's better! I hate those videos where they show all the bad shots he takes and misses.

I understand, however....

His soph year was much worse than his freshman year, so he's trending down.
He shot under 40% last year, which is NOT efficient. He did shoot 37% from 3, but even
that was down from his freshman year.

There could be some reason for this slippage that Neil knows, and we (and ESPN) don't. But, until I hear what
that reason is, I'll likely remain concerned.

ESPN has him ranked as the 20th best SG in the draft, and we drafted him a couple of spots ahead
of ESPN's 9th best SG.

So, there is concern, and that's probably why all of the downer videos. I am ready and willing to
change my mind about this, but I'll need some evidence, and there's no summer league this year,
so I don't know where the evidence will even come from....

 

[Pinwheel1]

I understand, however....

His soph year was much worse than his freshman year, so he's trending down.
He shot under 40% last year, which is NOT efficient. He did shoot 37% from 3, but even
that was down from his freshman year.

There could be some reason for this slippage that Neil knows, and we (and ESPN) don't. But, until I hear what
that reason is, I'll likely remain concerned.

ESPN has him ranked as the 20th best SG in the draft, and we drafted him a couple of spots ahead
of ESPN's 9th best SG.

So, there is concern, and that's probably why all of the downer videos. I am ready and willing to
change my mind about this, but I'll need some evidence, and there's no summer league this year,
so I don't know where the evidence will even come from....

This guy is a 2nd round pick so either way, I am not too concerned. But all these guys are drafted on potential. Anthony Edwards's shooting percentage was only 40% as well and he went #1. They all need to improve. Maybe Neil sees a guy with a high BBIQ and who is willing to put in the work. But you are right we will not see anything from him this year. Hopefully, there is a summer league next year.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I understand, however....

His soph year was much worse than his freshman year, so he's trending down.
He shot under 40% last year, which is NOT efficient. He did shoot 37% from 3, but even
that was down from his freshman year.

There could be some reason for this slippage that Neil knows, and we (and ESPN) don't. But, until I hear what
that reason is, I'll likely remain concerned.

ESPN has him ranked as the 20th best SG in the draft, and we drafted him a couple of spots ahead
of ESPN's 9th best SG.

So, there is concern, and that's probably why all of the downer videos. I am ready and willing to
change my mind about this, but I'll need some evidence, and there's no summer league this year,
so I don't know where the evidence will even come from....

I have some concerns also but I think I better say that I was being kind of a smartass with my comment.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Every single one of Neil's second round picks is still in the NBA and received a second contract.

2012- 40. Will Barton
2013- 31. Allen Crabbe
2015- 41. Pat Connaughton
2016 - 47. Jake Layman
2018- 37. Gary Trent Jr.

Every. Single. One. Hit rate of 100%

Elleby it is.

This is pretty impressive. But note that only one of them is on the Blazers. (Also: IS Crabbe still in the league?)

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Every single one of Neil's second round picks is still in the NBA and received a second contract.

2012- 40. Will Barton
2013- 31. Allen Crabbe
2015- 41. Pat Connaughton
2016 - 47. Jake Layman
2018- 37. Gary Trent Jr.

Every. Single. One. Hit rate of 100%

Elleby it is.

I've said it before, but Olshey's strategy for second rounders is different from his strategy for first rounders (which makes sense). When you're picking low, go for players who can do a bunch of things and seem to work well in a team. We'd never heard of Layman before we picked him, but he was solid at a bunch of things. From what I gather about Elleby, he's a player that you can slot in in a bunch of places, which is what you want in a bench player.

 

[B-Roy]

This is pretty impressive. But note that only one of them is on the Blazers. (Also: IS Crabbe still in the league?)

I would argue that is by design.

If you look at all these guys, they mostly follow this pattern:

Year 1 - 2: Sitting on the bench,

Year 3: Rotation guy

The total contract amount for 3 years of a second-round pick is ~3 million dollars, so you're looking at getting a rotation guy for one year at ~3 million. That's a pretty good investment, especially considering how easily seconds can be gotten.

The two guys that Olshey really targeted (as in, he moved 2 seconds for each of these guys) are Crabbe and Trent. Crabbe did play for the Blazers after his rookie contract, and Trent is trending in the right direction. I guess you can argue that matching Crabbe was a mistake, but still, he played well enough to get a huge deal from some other team, so the talent evaluation was pretty spot on.

 

[B-Roy]

Also re: Crabbe, he's been injured A LOT since being traded from us. Averaging 51 games in the last 3 seasons, so not all of that is on him.